Worst starting QB in the division?
 

Poll

Way to **** up the poll

They're all in Denver. LMAO

Yes

At the current moment, it's Rivers. But I voted Siemien because Rivers will be better next week.

Worst Ceiling: Siemian
Worst Floor: Rivers

I went with Siemian because Rivers CAN be good, but he tries to do too much and ****s things up a lot. Siemian is a poor man's Alex Smith. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes, but his skill set is incredibly limited.

To be fair, Rivers is playing a better defense than Semien. It's a road game as well

He's a turnover machine and the worst AFC West QB.

It's time to call it how it is.

I meant to hit Semen, not Smith

rivers is going to miss mccoy, regardless of how the coaches record ended up. i see rivers taking a huge dump on his season... not to mention he has almost three hours of drive time when he goes home. he's like a truckie moonlighting as an nfl qb. :D

I heard that about you.

Rivers doesn't want to be in LA

Can't blame him

Better watch out for Rivers' replacement.

Cardale Jones has issues, but he is highly intelligent, has a coach who believes in him, and from the neck down is the greatest QB prospect ever...

I'd say it's probably a tie between Siemian and Smith.

They're the same guy, only one has hit his ceiling, and the other has a ton of room to improve, and isn't damaged goods.

Obviously Siemian was the more productive player last year, while Smith had his fluke game that makes everyone think he's not an albatross for 2017.

St. Louis Chargers


How would that ring a bell? It would at least for a change make it a rival team and a I70 showdown in the division.

Semen


Alex Smith has too much upside learning from Patrick Mahomes II on the deep ball and looking like an actual quarterback.

Siemian having a limited physical skill set is something I hear a lot, but I'm not sure I see it. He certainly looks more Pennington than Cutler, but he doesn't really play like it.

This week will be fun to watch Smith. Will he revert back to the guy we saw early in the Pats game who sacked himself, threw short of the sticks and hesitated to go downfield, or has the addition of Mahomes transformed him into the QB who flashed against the Saints and Colts in the playoffs and who balled for three quarters against the Pats?

Give Siemian more than 1 game. He threw a pick 6 that was somehow dropped last night.

He's Trent Green.

If his mechanics are off everything goes to hell.

He's basically as good as his OL.

Give Smith more than 1 game. He threw a pick 6 that was somehow dropped.

I agree. Wait...when did Alex have a pick 6 dropped in NE?

Pass that went thru Chung's hands and Hill caught.

INT but not a pick 6

Are you ****ing kidding me? The pass went right through Pat Chung's hands. ROFL

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This was definitely going back for a TD if he had caught it.

There is a real double standard here at work with Smith vs Siemian.

Same question

You ****ing homers. LMAO

The football gods smiled on ASS11 on that play.

It was very nearly 24-7, game over and a victory lap around CP for me this week.

Count your blessings.

That would not be a pick six lmao. Int yes

Semen should've had 2 picks though.

Expectations are so low for him that people overrate him.

The only guy who had a shot at tackling Chung was Kelce, and he was standing flat footed a good 5-10 yards away. Chung isn't slow, either.

That was going back.

He spends 3 hours a day watching film, scheming against his adversaries. He will be the best prepped QB in the league.

I wonder if they even considered that after the scRams left?

Sometimes I question if you've ever watched a football game

It was. Didn't think was an automatic pick 6. With Kelce right there and players in front of Chung, it wasn't a guatanteeed pick 6.

Relax on the homer crap dude. Nobody outside of the Alex fans is crowning Alex as the messiah.

The OL was not catching him, Smith and whoever that WR was were on the ground.

That is six points, homer.

Not sure I agree.

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*shrug* Siemian does have a little more ability to throw on the run than Green did, but I stand by the comparison, especially since Green was a lot more mobile before the knee injury.

Worst QB might actually be Phillip Rivers.

Everytime i watch Semian play i think to myself, "Why is everyone so down on this guy"?

I feel like he gets a lot of un deserved heat. He has some talent. He makes tough, contested throws. Last night he was absolutely on fire.

Rivers OTOH....it's been a long while since he's been in the conversation as a top QB. He's incredibly turn over prone, wilts under pressure, one of the worst 4th qtr QB's in the current game and his arm strength doesn't look quite as live as it use to.

I know Rivers has the resume, but going off week 1, he very well may have been the worst. And that's been a pattern for awhile now.

Good god you are terrible at evaluation.

Trent Green? Are you ****ing kidding me? Siemian reminds you of Trent Green?

LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/jLgjqdn.jpg

This post says it all. He considers a Chiefs blowout loss a victory for himself.... :facepalm:

Siemian is an exact clone of Alex.


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Wow....just wow....

This ****ing thread....my god...

As someone states, a poor man's Alex. That sounds about right.

ROFL

Yes. He's not a clone of Smith. Smith had a stronger arm coming out and a lot more mobility. Still has more mobility. Siemian ran a 4.94.

Siemian and Green are similar in that they have good, not great, arm strength, a bit of mobility and pretty good accuracy when they have protection and can set up correctly.

Also willing to throw the ball down the field and into tight spots. That's not Smith, either.

They're also almost the exact same size.

Based on their stats, Alex and Trevor are nearly identical except that Alex is a little more accurate (61.9% vs 59.5%) but Trevor has a higher YPC (11.8 vs 11.0).

Of course, the largest difference is that one has started 137 games and the other has started 15.

Clay is wrong on everything so this isn't new

No. Alex clone.


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It was more like blocked /knock down. CC said you have to make those to win, he was right.

There's way too much sense in that post...

I like that Rivers never gives up and can sling it. I think plays too wound up at times and makes dumb mistakes.

Siemian ... the guy doesn't light you on fire emotionally, but I like his ability to shrug off a bad play or something negative and turn it into a positive. He never looks rattled or pissed off.

Is he a top 10 QB? Not even close... but the guy is far from terrible, makes some great throws, stays in the pocket, makes the pass and takes the shot. I like his desire. We'll see how it goes.

Knocked down?!? Jesus talk about spin.

Opinions: Everyone has one, just your's are shittier than most.

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Good post. Better sig than the last. Need a much better avy.

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone posted an opinion I do not share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Call in the National Guard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not shared because it's a ****ing horrible opinion. One that leaves one to wonder how the **** you managed to reach that conclusion. That maybe it takes a special kind of stupid to even come to that conclusion.

He plays nothing like Trent Green. Not even close. IDGAF what their forty times were, Trevor is quite a bit more shifty in the pocket and can actually run when a play breaks down.

"good, not great arm strength and pretty good accuracy in a clean pocket" pretty much describes every average to below average QB in the league.

You're 0-50 in the Andy Reid era. Now you're 0-51.

Comparing Alex Smith to a QB who runs a 4.94 is the dumbest thing I've heard around here in awhile, to be frank.

So could Green before the knee injury.

The only person comparing forty times for a QB is you. So yes, you comparing their forty times IS the dumbest thing i've heard around here in awhile.

Based on what? His ONE season as a Redskin? LMAO

Sorry but a huge hallmark of Smith's game is that he is fast. Andy Reid loves fast QBs. That's a big reason he wanted him, other than the WCO familiarity.

Trevor Siemian had 57 yards rushing last year. But yeah...he's a Smith clone!

Dumb.

Yes. Absolutely.

But Siemian isn't a runner like Smith. Not even close.

When was the last time you saw Smith attempt let alone complete a throw like this?

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This is the QB Siemian wants to be. Drop back in the pocket and hit timing routes.

http://bsndenver.com/wp-content/uplo.../08/gif-20.gif

Here's another throw you don't see Smith attempt.

http://bsndenver.com/wp-content/uplo.../09/gif-45.gif

The only reason you think Siemian is anything like Smith is because he was running for his ****ing life last year.

He's a complete Alex clone.


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Like...how many read option plays do you see Denver running with Trev?

Yeah...no.

Bunch of mundane, average crap that we've all seen Smith do. "herp, derp, look guys here's Semen throwing an incompletion!"

I'm not at all interested in a lengthy argument with a career troll who thought Mahomes was only worth a 2nd round pick, that Hunt wouldn't get 200 yards on the season and evaluates QB's by their 40 time.

Yes


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Total BS, but you're dug in now. Enjoy.

Get an evaluation right once in your life and then maybe you'd be worth an in depth, thought out response.

Really....

So, Cardale Jones, 6'5", 250, thin looking on a large frame, demonstrated ability to

1. shake off DLs like Big Ben
2. throw with a "dart" motion 40+ yard lasers
3. score a 26 on the Wonderlic, or almost double what Marino scored


yeah, he has nothing to like... Lynn, who was with Buffalo last year, has no idea what he traded for and made Rivers' heir...

but you do, because you have a beak and a birdbrain, and a penchant for insults...

He thought Mahomes was Johnny Football

To be honest, we don't know that he isn't. His playing style in the preseason was certainly reminiscent of him. Albeit with better results.

Not even close LMAO

LMAO

I really hope you get better at this. I really do.

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Wake me up when Semen makes a read and throw like that.

"Thin looking"? LMAO

Are you ****ing kidding me?

1. Shakes of DL like Big Ben....guess that explains the 8 sacks he took this preseason.

2. Tyler Bray has a big arm too...big whoop. So did Ryan Leaf. So did JaFatass Russel...another big overweight QB.

3. 26 on the Wonderlic is something to be proud of? LMAO

Yeah, the Bills, who have no QB on their roster gave up on him after just one season to a 1st year head coach (a RB coach at that) and what looks to be one of the worst front offices in all of football.

Great ringing endorsement there.

Maybe if Jones can throw a TD pass in the preseason we could talk. Until then, just STFU with your bullshit, you butt-****ing morAn.

Cardale Jones through two NFL preseasons.....1TD, 5 INTS....against 3rd string scrubs.

Yup, im sure Rivers is shaking in his boots. As soon as Jones is able to pass Kellen Clemens on the depth chart, he'll be shaking in his boots.

For sure.

Cool story.

I just showed you a BETTER throw. :facepalm:

All that ad-libbing was classic Johnny Football.

That was a perfect throw. You should gif up the Harris td as well. Smith threw the ball before Harris even turned around

Every post you make is just proof on top of proof that you are a god awful evaluator.

Stay in your lane, woman. Stick to GIFs and Youtube videos.

I don't know. Carr is the best in the division and the other 3 are all capable of having good and terrible games.