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Dante84 04-27-2018 09:00 PM
*****The Dorian O'Daniel Thread*****
 
More to come...

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Overview
Athletic linebackers like O'Daniel are earning high marks from NFL scouts because they need to cover the middle of the field in passing situations. ACC coaches recognized O'Daniel's talent in 2017, naming him second-team all-conference after he led the Tigers with 103 tackles, including 11.5 for loss and five sacks, as well as three pass breakups in 14 starts. One of the top outside linebacker recruits in the nation after an excellent high school career in the Washington, D.C. metro area (all-state in Maryland with 1,307 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns as senior, 16.5 tackles for loss, five sacks as junior). O'Daniel redshirted in 2013, and then got into the action regularly as a freshman, starting once and leading the team with 13 special teams tackles (had 31 total stops, sack) in 12 games played. He once again paced the team with 19 special teams stops in 2015, and was credited with 32 total tackles in 15 games as a reserve. Given a chance to play more on defense as a junior (10 starts in 15 games), O'Daniel used his quickness and tenacious nature to make 60 stops, 10 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot, he makes up for with production and consistency. He may not have the tools to become a quality full-time starter at linebacker, but his outstanding career as a special teams cover talent could be enough to earn him a roster spot and a place in the league for years to come.

Strengths
  • Madman on special teams
  • Finished career with 48 special teams tackles and most of them in kick coverage
  • Has a gift for playing past kick return blocks and maintaining focus on the returner
  • Technically sound as tackler
  • Sees what he hits and drives upper body into target while wrapping to finish
  • Possesses agility for lateral tackles against cutback runs
  • Hustles to contain against perimeter runs
  • Offers versatility
  • Played near the line and matched up on slot targets
  • Redirects routes with force
  • Reads and squeezes from zone
  • Finished 2017 with seven passes defensed including two pick-six interceptions

Weaknesses
  • Just one season as starter
  • Has the frame of a big safety, but is an average athlete in space
  • Is a little sluggish in his directional change and needs a runway to get accelerate to top speed
  • Pursuit speed is below par
  • Often blocked by smaller slot players against spread rushing attacks
  • Needs to prove he can beat blocks near the line of scrimmage on next level
  • Gives up separation when matched in man coverage
  • Plays upright and needs to do better job of anticipating routes
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BryanBusby 04-27-2018 09:00 PM
Well ok I guess

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:01 PM
The front 7 is obviously where Veach sees need and I can't disagree

Simply Red 04-27-2018 09:02 PM
seems undersized

RealSNR 04-27-2018 09:02 PM
CAN HE PLAY CORNER

Buns 04-27-2018 09:03 PM
That's what she said!

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2018 09:03 PM
Special Teams badass

Buns 04-27-2018 09:03 PM
Where's muhhhh cornerrrrr?????

ILChief 04-27-2018 09:04 PM
Seems more safety size than LB

chiefzilla1501 04-27-2018 09:05 PM
Any chance they groom him for Sorensen's role? Basically a hybrid safety/linebacker...? Hmm....

Definitely can see lots of chances in subpackages.

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:05 PM
Dude, definitely seems to bring it.....size concerns me

old_geezer 04-27-2018 09:06 PM
Have we found our new Donnie Edwards? He can jump on people's backs and ride 10-20 yards down the field.

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:06 PM
“Technically sound tackler.”

Already better than Sorenson.

kccrow 04-27-2018 09:06 PM
Meh.

Genard Avery was more productive and better at everything than this kid, and was faster and 25 pounds heavier.

I'm not impressed with taking what amounts to a special teams player in the 3rd, but whatever.

You need a CB and FS and completely ignore it. Seems illogical at best because this guy is certainly not BPA.

SupDock 04-27-2018 09:06 PM
48 career special teams tackles. I like this pick

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:10 PM
Can they convert him to Safety?

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:11 PM
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So basically Sorenson’s replacement. I think the guy is very similar type of player as Su’a Cravens. Can be used on 3rd down to help cover TE’s, RB’s and the middle of the field.

siberian khatru 04-27-2018 09:11 PM
@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13536314)
Can they convert him to Safety?
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13536315)
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So basically Sorenson’s replacement. I think the guy is very similar type of player as Su’a Cravens. Can be used on 3rd down to help cover TE’s, RB’s and the middle of the field.

Right on cue

Halfcan 04-27-2018 09:12 PM
What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot,

That is not a good way to start.

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:14 PM
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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2018 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13536320)
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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.
They announced him as a LB, so that’s what the Chiefs put down

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13536320)
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Holy shit. This guy is definitely a safety.
I think so too. And I think he can be a good one. He seems to have above average speed and can tackle very well. Put him and Berry out there together and pick your poison.

dlphg9 04-27-2018 09:16 PM
Who cares who we have at corner if we can't rush the passer

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:17 PM
Let me be very clear, depending on how they use him, he could be our best pick of the draft going by the footage I see of him. This cat can ****ing hit.

Mother****erJones 04-27-2018 09:17 PM
He’s replacing Sorensen?

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13536331)
Who cares who we have at corner if we can't rush the passer
^

Been saying it all night

Nickhead 04-27-2018 09:18 PM
he's a little smaller than, but reminds me of DJ a little in those highlight vids. FWIW :D

staylor26 04-27-2018 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13536334)
He’s replacing Sorensen?
It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.

Halfcan 04-27-2018 09:18 PM
Looks like he knows how to ****ing tackle- so that is good.

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13536326)
They announced him as a LB, so that’s what the Chiefs put down
Sorenson lines up as a LB in subpackages. I think this guy is going to be his replacement.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-27-2018 09:19 PM
We should be able to stop the run...

cabletech94 04-27-2018 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13536316)
@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media
seriously, thats team chemistry right there. im intrigued.

Mother****erJones 04-27-2018 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13536340)
It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.
I’m cool with it. They play a lot of sub packages, and he’ll makes some plays

Nickhead 04-27-2018 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13536340)
It’s the only thing that makes sense when we already have Hitchens and Ragland.
im all for a safety version of derrick johnson of yesteryear :D

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2018 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13536342)
Sorenson lines up as a LB in subpackages. I think this guy is going to be his replacement.
Yeah that makes sense then. Sorensen might actually be ok if he just plays safety. He was in 2016 when he did.

Titty Meat 04-27-2018 09:22 PM
No more giving up 100 yards to pedestrian RBs in the playoffs after tonight's draft

Clyde Frog 04-27-2018 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13536347)
im all for a safety version of derrick johnson of yesteryear :D
He reminded me of a mini-DJ, too. It's the direction changes and the way he peels off blocks.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2018 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13536352)
No more giving up 100 yards to pedestrian RBs in the playoffs after tonight's draft
This team has been getting pushed around by the Steelers and Titans for two years running.

No more.

Nickhead 04-27-2018 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 13536353)
He reminded me of a mini-DJ, too. It's the direction changes and the way he peels off blocks.
:thumb:

Simplicity 04-27-2018 09:27 PM
This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13536364)
This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.
And faster

Easy 6 04-27-2018 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13536316)
@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media
No idea who he is, my draft guide doesnt even rank him

But if we couldnt get his brother Kyle, then one of his best friends is a potential consolation prize... maybe create some synergy back there, see if they'll push each other and hold the other accountable

Underwhelming, but just gonna have to trust Veach on this

chiefzilla1501 04-27-2018 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13536364)
This kid will be a way better fit for the role Sorenson was put into last year. He looks like a very aggressive hitter.
Well, granted... Sorensen was put into Berry's role. He played almost every snap. I don't see Dorian doing that. I could see him doing what Sorensen did two years ago.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-27-2018 09:41 PM
VERSATILE

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:45 PM
Eric Murray and Daniel Sorenson were tire fires covering TE’s last year. Remember the game at Oakland last year? That’s why this guy was drafted.

He’s the new hybrid LB/S that Sorenson sucks at. Think Telvin Smith, Deion Jones and Su’a Cravens types of players. You need guys like this on your team now.

KChiefs1 04-27-2018 09:46 PM
Shaq Griffin may have been a better pick.

KChiefs1 04-27-2018 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13536373)
No idea who he is, my draft guide doesnt even rank him

But if we couldnt get his brother Kyle, then one of his best friends is a potential consolation prize... maybe create some synergy back there, see if they'll push each other and hold the other accountable

Underwhelming, but just gonna have to trust Veach on this


I didn’t understand any pick tonight. I’m hoping Dorsey wasn’t the brains in the operation.

petegz28 04-27-2018 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13536406)
Shaq Griffin would have been a better pick.
Is there anything you aren't going to cry about tonight?

Dante84 04-27-2018 09:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box 🤔 <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>&mdash; JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr_Tomahawk 04-27-2018 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13536411)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box [emoji848] <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>— JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>

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Saw this....


...I’m trying not to get my hopes up.

KChiefs1 04-27-2018 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13536318)
What O'Daniel lacks in size and speed at the linebacker spot,

That is not a good way to start.


Shaq Griffin would have been better.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-27-2018 09:51 PM
VER-SA-TILE

CoMoChief 04-27-2018 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13536309)
Meh.

Genard Avery was more productive and better at everything than this kid, and was faster and 25 pounds heavier.

I'm not impressed with taking what amounts to a special teams player in the 3rd, but whatever.

You need a CB and FS and completely ignore it. Seems illogical at best because this guy is certainly not BPA.
Agreed...this was a very underwhelming pick

RunKC 04-27-2018 09:59 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zitoqFgGMy4

Dude is an energetic, versatile, violent player. My favorite pick of the night.

petegz28 04-27-2018 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13536434)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zitoqFgGMy4

Dude is an energetic, versatile, violent player. My favorite pick of the night.
Sounds like an intelligent kid at that

Flying High D 04-27-2018 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13536316)
@TerezPaylor: O'Daniel and Chiefs CB Kendall Fuller are basically best friends. Fuller is with O'Daniel right now as he interviews over the phone with the Chiefs media
Is that what the young kids are calling it now days?

kccrow 04-27-2018 10:25 PM
Hope the kid proves me wrong, seriously. If he can be an excellent nickel defender and special teamer, I'll be okay with.

Buehler445 04-27-2018 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13536472)
Hope the kid proves me wrong, seriously. If he can be an excellent nickel defender and special teamer, I'll be okay with.
This is where I’m at.

Quite frankly I feel like these are better picks than crazy athletes with no skills. We will see if they are.

wasi 04-27-2018 10:29 PM
In the Box
 
He looks like McQuay. I liked his play Week 17 against Denver starters. Both are good tacklers and hard hitters.. like Chancellor.

Mother****erJones 04-27-2018 10:29 PM
Some of the clips gave me DJ-ish vibes

Buehler445 04-27-2018 10:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13536477)
Some of the clips gave me DJ-ish vibes
He’s not the insane athlete DJ was. DJ wasn’t human.

Frosty 04-27-2018 10:37 PM
Veach confirmed he's going to be the coverage LB in dime, so Dirty Dan's position. Plus play on all of the ST.

wasi 04-27-2018 10:38 PM
GMFB
 
https://youtu.be/6ncD8U7oSKw

He Calls himself "war daddy" on special teams

txhawk 04-27-2018 10:38 PM
If he’s 90% of what Deion Jones is, that’s a good pick.

Easy 6 04-27-2018 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13536411)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dorian O’Daniel 6’1” 223<br><br>4.61 : 40 Yard Dash<br>21 : Bench<br>32” : Vertical <br>119” : Broad<br>6.64 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.07: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Kam Chancellor 6’3” 231<br><br>4.62 : 40 Yard Dash<br>22: Bench<br>32” : Vertical<br>116” : Broad<br>7:36 : 3 Cone Drill<br>4.41: 20 Yard Shuttle <br><br>Both play in the Box 🤔 <a href="https://t.co/C6UHh3bNhm">pic.twitter.com/C6UHh3bNhm</a></p>&mdash; JKuhn (@h8rproof82) <a href="https://twitter.com/h8rproof82/status/990072503103082496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thats heady stuff, would love to change my tune asap... the measurables speak for themselves

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players

DaNewGuy 04-27-2018 10:41 PM
He has a 3rd string TE name but I like this pick

KChiefs1 04-27-2018 10:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13536409)
Is there anything you aren't going to cry about tonight?
The Royals.

Dante84 04-27-2018 10:57 PM
Man the more I learn, the more I like this pick.

chiefforlife 04-27-2018 10:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wasi (Post 13536492)
https://youtu.be/6ncD8U7oSKw

He Calls himself "war daddy" on special teams
Great interview, I like the guy. No more TEs running freely through our D.

Buns 04-27-2018 11:16 PM
Can I call Adopt a Chief right now yo?

The DoD

Coined

Chris Meck 04-27-2018 11:17 PM
Man, I like it. All three picks today are solid football players that are VERSATILE. It allows you to do so many different things without telegraphing your intent to the offense because you don't have to change personnel. a DE/OLB, a DE/DT on pass rush downs, and a LB/S

Dante84 04-27-2018 11:19 PM
Okay, so he clearly excels at slipping past blocks in space when he is pursuing and trying to make a tackle. You see that in the Alabama playoff tape, and his success on special teams (Chiefs #1 rated ST player in the draft - sup, Toub?) speaks to this as well.

With that in mind, I think he is going to be naaaaaaaasty on Safety blitzes... he could have a ton of sacks and if he can chop like Tamba or DT, a lot of forced fumbles as well.

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2018 11:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13536495)
Thats heady stuff, would love to change my tune asap... the measurables speak for themselves

Yet another hybrid choice, the Veach template seems to be taking shape... build front to back, and stock it with multi-purpose players
https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/off-los-linebacker/

124.1 SPARQ

Mother****erJones 04-27-2018 11:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13536480)
He’s not the insane athlete DJ was. DJ wasn’t human.
That’s why I said ish. There’s multiple people saying it as well when they saw some clips

mcaj22 04-28-2018 12:06 AM
I like that this guy could replace Sorensen but I hope that now doesn't mean they will have Sorensen then replace Ron Parker as the single high safety. What a disaster that would be.

New World Order 04-28-2018 12:07 AM
At least we won't have to look at Zombo and Sorensen on the field at the same time anymore.

kccrow 04-28-2018 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13536553)
I like that this guy could replace Sorensen but I hope that now doesn't mean they will have Sorensen then replace Ron Parker as the single high safety. What a disaster that would be.
I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate

New World Order 04-28-2018 12:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13536559)
I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate
Surely there is a cheap veteran we can bring in on a 1-year deal.

mcaj22 04-28-2018 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13536559)
I 100% expect Sorensen to start at FS at this point.

If the Chiefs go FS in 4, then maybe there'd be some sort of competition there but I have my doubts. I see Armani Watts, Dane Cruikshank, and Jordan Whitehead as kind of that last tier of guys that might be able to start out the gate
I will take anybody at this point; draft pick, FA, UDFA, anything that adds competition to a Sorensen/Murray warm body FS battle. Anything is better than those two.


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