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Baby Lee 03-04-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 9463426)
Empty promise.

So is the lottery offered for free is never a bad thing.

Lottery is an empty promise too.

Easy 6 03-05-2013 08:33 AM

All of the looming cuts to basic services, the recession we're most certainly still in... and 2700 of these things is a good use of money? feed yet another goverment agency thats already too damn big?

For what? plenty of people are laughing it off as usual, but we still havent heard why this is a good idea or why they might be needed.... what, th3e national guard and state police forces wont be enough to handle civil unrest?

Even without the conspiracy element, what a HUGE waste of ****ing money.

FD 03-05-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9463120)
I'm more worried about the phenomenal waste of public dollars on this and so many other boondoggles of various sorts, military and non-military, than I am about the feds coming to seize my women and children...

You aren't really taking seriously this un-sourced article from a survivalist blog, are you?

Radar Chief 03-05-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FD (Post 9466583)
You aren't really taking seriously this un-sourced article from a survivalist blog, are you?

Iíll read whatever youíve got that says DHS isnít buying 2700 APCís.

La literatura 03-05-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9466594)
Iíll read whatever youíve got that says DHS isnít buying 2700 APCís.

LMAO

I love internet truth standards.

Radar Chief 03-05-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9466601)
LMAO

I love internet truth standards.

I can then take it that you have something debunking the OP?

La literatura 03-05-2013 09:28 AM

By the way, if these vehicles didn't exist, people would complain that Obama doesn't care about securing the border and our national security (which would go to show that he is a Muslim operative attacking us from the inside-out).

BucEyedPea 03-05-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FD (Post 9466583)
You aren't really taking seriously this un-sourced article from a survivalist blog, are you?

Can you explain the picture then? Or the video in the link?
I mean really, it's already known via other sources that local police are being more militarized via DHS.
Not to mention how many police are former military who've been trained to see civilians as terrorists after being in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The guy in the below video claims they're a national team too. That's another dangerous marker—nationalization of our police forces.


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0pS9aw5pcJo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Radar Chief 03-05-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9466607)
By the way, if these vehicles didn't exist, people would complain that Obama doesn't care about securing the border and our national security (which would go to show that he is a Muslim operative attacking us from the inside-out).

The existence of these vehicles isnít the problem. DHS buying them is.

La literatura 03-05-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9466605)
I can then take it that you have something debunking the OP?

I'm more interested in something credible that supports the OP. That's generally how claims work, and for good reason, otherwise we spend our time in a futile chase to prove a negative.

Here's the original source: http://modernsurvivalblog.com/govern...treet-sweeper/

You'll notice it's completely unsourced. Here's the Navistar Defense report: http://www.navistardefense.com/Navis.../newsandevents

Do you see where the Survivalist blog makes the jump? Their argument is roughly:

P1: Navistar makes vehicles for military (Navistar report)
P2: Military is drawing down troops in Afghanistan (general knowledge)
P3: Homeland Security is buying the vehicles from military (unsourced)
C: These tanks are going to be used on American streets against citizens

La literatura 03-05-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9466615)
The existence of these vehicles isnít the problem. DHS buying them is.

I'm sure DHS has vehicles like that. Who do you think does border patrol in our country?

petegz28 03-05-2013 09:42 AM

Some people want an Obama mouthpiece, A.K.A, state run media, A.K.A MSM, to come out with this or it cannot be true.

petegz28 03-05-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9466627)
I'm sure DHS has vehicles like that. Who do you think does border patrol in our country?

The Border Patrol???

La literatura 03-05-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9466630)
The Border Patrol???

Which is an agency of????????

Easy 6 03-05-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9466627)
I'm sure DHS has vehicles like that. Who do you think does border patrol in our country?

When we start seeing actual footage of hundreds or a thousand of these things patrolling the border, then i'll believe thats what they're being used for.


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