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Deberg_1990 01-04-2013 10:51 PM

Jeremiah Trotter: “Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games”
 
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Jeremiah Trotter played a total of seven seasons for Andy Reid in three different stints with the Eagles. And he thinks he lost a lot of games because Reid got out-coached.

“If it came down to both teams were even, talent-wise, I think the opponent’s team would win if it came down to coaching,” Trotter said on 97.5 The Fanatic, via Philly.com. “Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games, man, a lot of big games,” Trotter continued. “Time outs, running the football, you know.”

Trotter said Reid’s offensive style made things different for the defense and the late defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who ran the defense in Philadelphia until his death in 2008.

“As a defense, we understood we passed the ball too much. You know, there’s times we’re sitting over there like, ‘Man, listen. Just get us a couple of first downs so we can get a break.’ And I’m sure it frustrated Jim Johnson also,” Trotter said

Still, Trotter acknowledges that he won a lot of games during his time with Reid, and he says he would have given Reid a 7.5 or 8 on a scale of 1-10. I shudder to think what he’d say about a coach who was a 1.

Mother****erJones 01-04-2013 10:52 PM

Q.... he was on 610 today. He really likes reid

Smed1065 01-04-2013 10:53 PM

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Coach 01-04-2013 10:53 PM

Someone should ask Trotter if he ever played under Herm Edwards or Romeo Crennel....

petegz28 01-04-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 9283722)
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In58men 01-04-2013 10:56 PM

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Deberg_1990 01-04-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9283727)
Someone should ask Trotter if he ever played under Herm Edwards or Romeo Crennel....

heh, no kidding.....

Some Eagles fan posted on another relative of mines FB today that "Reid has no business being on an NFL sideline" WTF? Understandably alot of Eagles fans are bitter because he never won a title, but come on.....

ArrowheadMagic 01-04-2013 11:00 PM

then why did he give him a 7.5 or 8 out of 10 as a coach? Maybe in a sport with high head injuries, we shouldnt go by what the players think?

milkman 01-04-2013 11:00 PM

Trotter is expressing the same concerns I expressed about Reid.

Deberg_1990 01-04-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9283761)
Trotter is expressing the same concerns I expressed about Reid.

Sure, but a 7.5 to 8 is alot better than the .5 to 1 we have been used to.

ArrowheadMagic 01-04-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9283761)
Trotter is expressing the same concerns I expressed about Reid.

At some point players have to make plays, Eagles werent better than the Pats, McNabb isnt better than Brady. Reid isnt without blame, but did the coach get them to 5 NFCCG's or was it the players? Who is to blame if they lose?

Reid does have Herm like clock management, so that will be painful.

keg in kc 01-04-2013 11:05 PM

It's not too surprising that a defensive player would have some issues with a pass-happy coach.

ArrowheadMagic 01-04-2013 11:11 PM

Reid will work to get a QB. Reid knows what he needs to win. Not sure of the perfect coach...i.e.. drafts picks always pan out, wins everything.... maybe we shouldnt hire a coach until we find that guy.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2013 11:12 PM

IS HE COMING HERE WITH HUGH

TROTTER OR KENDRELL BELL WE GOTTA GET ONE

Mother****erJones 01-04-2013 11:13 PM

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FloridaMan88 01-04-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9283761)
Trotter is expressing the same concerns I expressed about Reid.

This coming from the dumbshit who wanted the Chiefs to consider MARC TRESTMAN as a HC candidate.

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5345

O.city 01-04-2013 11:13 PM

Better watch it with that, it's filer evasion. It'll get you in trouble round here.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9283829)
This coming from the dumbshit who wanted the Chiefs to consider MARC TRESTMAN as a HC candidate.

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5345

ROFL

Planet resumes normal function after 12 hours of celebration.

milkman 01-04-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9283829)
This coming from the dumbshit who wanted the Chiefs to consider MARC TRESTMAN as a HC candidate.

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5345

Yeah, and you're the dipshit that would gladly have us mired in the eternal mediocrity of Jeff Fisher.

Why don't you take a razor to your dick and dip the nub in acid, so we never have to worry about your ****ing useless moronacy infesting a future generation.

FloridaMan88 01-04-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9283851)
Yeah, and you're the dipshit that would gladly have us mired in the eternal mediocrity of Jeff Fisher.

Why don't you take a razor to your dick and dip the nub in acid, so we never have to worry about your ****ing useless moronacy infesting a future generation.

Jeff Fisher vs. Marc Trestman

Only in your dumbshit mind is that even a credible comparison.

You are also the same dumbshit who wants the Chiefs to get Drew Stanton (the same Drew Stanton who hasn't been in any game action since 2010) as a veteran back-up QB.

What is your fetish for people who vanish from NFL view for years at a time?

Trestman has been out of the NFL for close to 10 years
Stanton hasn't seen the field in 3 years.

Yet you are pushing both of them.

You obviously need an increase in whatever medication you are taking to semi (keyword SEMI) function in life.

You old, wrinkled, rotting, one foot in the grave piece of shit.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman
Yeah, and you're the dipshit that would gladly have us mired in the eternal mediocrity of Jeff Fisher.

Why don't you take a razor to your dick and dip the nub in acid, so we never have to worry about your ****ing useless moronacy infesting a future generation.

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9283870)
Jeff Fisher vs. Marc Trestman

Only in your dumbshit mind is that even a credible comparison.

You are also the same dumbshit who wants the Chiefs to get Drew Stanton (the same Drew Stanton who hasn't been in any game action since 2010) as a veteran back-up QB.

What is your fetish for people who vanish from NFL view for years at a time?

Trestman has been out of the NFL for close to 10 years
Stanton hasn't seen the field in 3 years.

Yet you are pushing both of them.

You obviously need an increase in whatever medication you are taking to semi (keyword SEMI) function in life.

You old, wrinkled, rotting, one foot in the grave piece of shit.

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milkman 01-04-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9283870)
Jeff Fisher vs. Marc Trestman

Only in your dumbshit mind is that even a credible comparison.

You are also the same dumbshit who wants the Chiefs to get Drew Stanton (the same Drew Stanton who hasn't been in any game action since 2010) as a veteran back-up QB.

What is your fetish for people who vanish from NFL view for years at a time?

Trestman has been out of the NFL for close to 10 years
Stanton hasn't seen the field in 3 years.

Yet you are pushing both of them.

You obviously need an increase in whatever medication you are taking to semi (keyword SEMI) function in life.

You old, wrinkled, rotting, one foot in the grave piece of shit.

Your man crush Dick, who is exactly as you described me here, was out of the NFL for 15 years.

You are just a frustrated little dick that is afraid of trying something other than the safe hires.

RealSNR 01-04-2013 11:32 PM

Deberg_1990 got out-posted in a lot of Qs

BradBigglestein 01-04-2013 11:34 PM

Andy Reid really did get out-coached in a lot of big games. I said in my pros and cons post that he coaches tight in big games. He coaches conservatively. That doesn't mean he isn't a good coach. He definitely is.

But I'm trying to give it to the Chiefs fans straight and give you the best and most honest view of Reid I can, whether it be positive or negative. I'll point out his strengths and weaknesses. Coaching in big games was definitely a weakness. That said, he won a lot of playoff games, but man, some of them were ugly performances. Even the wins.

FloridaMan88 01-04-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9283883)
Your man crush Dick, who is exactly as you described me here, was out of the NFL for 15 years.

You are just a frustrated little dick that is afraid of trying something other than the safe hires.

Obviously your progressing brain rot has damaged your memory.

Vermeil was out of the NFL for one season when the Chiefs hired him.

Also when the Rams hired him out of an extended retirement, he at least had NFL HC experience to fall back on.

Trestman is a 30 year NFL assistant coach who couldn't get a sniff of a HC job in the NFL or college (he tried desperately to get a job in both).

What about Trestman makes you think he'd be a worthy NFL HC prospect? Why is it that there are 7 NFL HC openings and no one is considering Trestman for an interview?

Let's hear you explain your rationale for why you think Trestman is a good HC prospect.

Line Judge 01-04-2013 11:43 PM

My friend is an Eagles season ticket holder. Here is his brief comment on Ried as a coach.
"Reid is a significant upgrade to Crenell. he is a good coach but can get into a rut and does not always pick the best assistants. He will make the Chiefs a better team. That being said, I would be worried if he brings Marty morningweig, Bobby april, or Todd Bowles with him. They stink."

milkman 01-04-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9283899)
Obviously your progressing brain rot has damaged your memory.

Vermeil was out of the NFL for one season when the Chiefs hired him.

Also when the Rams hired him out of an extended retirement, he at least had NFL HC experience to fall back on.

Trestman is a 30 year NFL assistant coach who couldn't get a sniff of a HC job in the NFL or college (he tried desperately to get a job in both).

What about Trestman makes you think he'd be a worthy NFL HC prospect? Why is it that there are 7 NFL HC openings and no one is considering Trestman for an interview?

Let's hear you explain your rationale for why you think Trestman is a good HC prospect.

You stalk me, so I am sure that you've already seen my rationale, you useless dick.

BradBigglestein 01-04-2013 11:49 PM

That's not necessarily true. Reid started off picking an incredible coaching staff. In his later years, he made major mistakes. Hiring Jim Washburn put the wheels to his departure in motion. It was a cataclysmic disaster.

Psyko Tek 01-05-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9283743)
heh, no kidding.....

Some Eagles fan posted on another relative of mines FB today that "Reid has no business being on an NFL sideline" WTF? Understandably alot of Eagles fans are bitter because he never won a title, but come on.....

give them a break they never had to deal with our coaching carousel of losers
you deal with gunther herm haley and crennel and then tell me who can't coach a football gam


may dick curl time manage philly's next team
they need to learn


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