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htismaqe 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9364514)
It is amazing to me how many people old and young that do not know that the wait staff normally doesn't make but 3 to 5 dollars an hour and tips are suppose to make up the difference plus some. A lot of people also don't know that if a person is paid in this manner and it doesn't come out to minimum wage the employer has to pay the difference at the end of the year.
This isn't about making sure they make minimum wage.

This is about incenting behavior.

I work in sales and get paid on commission. The conditions under which I get paid reinforce the work my company wants me to do.

Good tipping encourages better service.

Bad tipping is why they never come back to your table and refill your drinks.

Dayze 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
however, what DOES drive me insane is when the waitress/waiter takes our order; someone ELSE brings it out; and we don't see the waiter/waitress until we're nearly finished.

that drives me nuts.

BWillie 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9364559)
So you want waiters to make less than minimum wage?
I want there to not be a "cultural" expectation built into their wages. Pay the waiter a fair and decent wage, and do not allow tips. Ppl will say ohh well ppl will tip anyway. Well retail stores don't allow ppl for the most part to tip, and make it if you accept a tip you are fired. This is one thing I think is BS.

Rain Man 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 9364577)
You can stop tipping when waiters get paid a living wage instead of $3 an hour.

When I'm elected president, this is the first thing that I'm changing. Bring them up to a livable wage and stop this whole tipping insanity.

And it would also mean more tax money for my administration since I bet that servers never report their full tips.

ILChief 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9364401)
A group of 8 or more ate in this restaurant for less than $35?
8 people can't even eat at McDonald's hardly for that amount

htismaqe 01-30-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9364573)
Maybe he should tip god more, instead of tipping servers less.
Exactly what I was thinking.

htismaqe 01-30-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9364595)
I want there to not be a "cultural" expectation built into their wages. Pay the waiter a fair and decent wage, and do not allow tips. Ppl will say ohh well ppl will tip anyway. Well retail stores don't allow ppl for the most part to tip, and make it if you accept a tip you are fired. This is one thing I think is BS.
Retail stores don't provide a service.

Swanman 01-30-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9364589)
Often times when I go out to eat I think about how that person serving us may be having a bad day, they got yelled at, relationship trouble, etc. yet they still have to put on a smile and be friendly with a bunch of strangers he/she may never see again. I could not do that.

I tip good and even with bad service I don't tip bad, especially if I have reason to believe something may not be the server's fault. The lowest I will usually go is near 10%.
I went below 10% once and it was because we had god awful service and most of the time I saw our waitress sitting at a table with her friends during the meal instead of doing her job. That was a pretty extreme circumstance. Usually I am at a bare minimum 15%, usually over 20%.

saphojunkie 01-30-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9364341)
Tips are excuse for Restaurants to underpay their help and add hidden cost to customers.
You're an idiot.

htismaqe 01-30-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9364594)
however, what DOES drive me insane is when the waitress/waiter takes our order; someone ELSE brings it out; and we don't see the waiter/waitress until we're nearly finished.

that drives me nuts.
Simple solution.

Don't leave a tip.

QuikSsurfer 01-30-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9364590)
Ok, I wouldn't mind that. Then I can get food and water when I want it instead of waiting or flagging someone down.
You should try eating at other places aside from Denny's.

I take a lot of pride in being a good tipper. People take notice and will go the extra mile for you afterwards.

BWillie 01-30-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9364569)
If it were not for servers, you would'nt be able to take your spouse out to a fancy restaurant to wine & dine her. You'd be in line at McDonalds
Not true. Places like Pei Wei etc are awesome to me. I wish fancy restaurants worked that way. I don't give two shits if there is someone there to suck up to me. I like places where I order, I sit down, and they clean up my table when I'm done. No tips, and still a pleasant experience. Waiters and waitresses is really a pointless occupation IMO. I'm sure many think it's cool to have a waiter, but I do not care either way.

Dayze 01-30-2013 11:52 AM
"10%?....****ing cheap mother****er" / God

saphojunkie 01-30-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9364595)
I want there to not be a "cultural" expectation built into their wages. Pay the waiter a fair and decent wage, and do not allow tips. Ppl will say ohh well ppl will tip anyway. Well retail stores don't allow ppl for the most part to tip, and make it if you accept a tip you are fired. This is one thing I think is BS.
You're an idiot, too.

Dayze 01-30-2013 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9364604)
Simple solution.

Don't leave a tip.
yeah; at that point we basically leave 10% if that. hate doing it, but dang....


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