Do Target workers deserve a shortened Black Friday?
 

LMAO

Worthless retail slobs.

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Deserve?

What makes Target workers more special than other retail slobs?

Some jobs make you work holiday hours you don't wanna work. In this case, it's their companies biggest day to make money. Don't they get double pay or time and a half?

Are they forcing them to work without pay?

You'd have to know the city of Corona, Ca. to know how normal this person is within his community.

when family is important again NO STORE WOULD BE OPEN ON THANKSGIVING

If they show up to arrowhead in black sunday. I'll sign it.

They're not talking about Black Friday, they want Thanksgiving off, which is one of like 2 holidays that retail workers usually get off.

Hospitals should all be closed too.

Sarcasm btw.

Nevermind

I don't know, I do think the whole idea of Wal-Mart and Target starting at 8 or 9 on Thanksgiving day is stupid. Where does it end?

I'm pretty sure that Target wants to lengthen it's BF hours so that it starts earlier....on Thanksgiving day.

That's not Black Friday. That's Thanksgiving Thursday. Guess it comes down to semantics. I think retail workers should not be forced to work on Thanksgiving. If they are given an option to have the day off with no penalty, I am cool.

I know it's not Black Friday.....but the stores are still technically calling it Black Friday.

Both Wal-Mart and Target moved the "Black Friday" sales to Thanksgiving evening this year, if I'm not mistaken.

Both of them don't have shit that interests me except an occasional gun

Nobody is ever forced to work. Unless serious laws are being broken.

If you can make money from the a******* that want to get up at the butt a** crack of dawn who cares. I have shopped on black Friday but I never got up before 6am and still have gotten everything I wanted.

BF is as stupid as people standing in line for an Iphone

FYP

You guys aren't understanding this. The "Black Friday" sales aren't happening at the butt crack of dawn this year. I think that's their complaint. The Black Friday madness is taking places at like 8 or 9 PM on Thanksgiving night this year. I'm guessing the store has to be pretty much fully staffed through the day to prepare for the madness that night.

You don't see movie theater workers throwing fits or people saying they shouldn't work holidays. I am sure Target would prefer to not be open as would many stores but they can't do that if they want to compete.

At least target gave them an extra hour and are opening at 9 instead of 8. Nobody is eating dinner at 9 pm.

You took the job.

Most stores still have the black Friday doorbusters starting at 4 am or so. They have separate sales for Thanksgiving that aren't as much the limited quantity variety.

As a movie theater employee this makes me laugh. I have to go into work at 5pm just have to deal with it

They took the job. Work or quit. I have worked several holidays thru the years and have been on call. If your company doesn't make money you don't either.

You must have missed the part where I said if they are given the option to not work without penalty.

Right, because people who agree to working ALL Holidays by choosing that profession, and who are paid more as a result, are the same as retail employees who had previously never been required to work those same holidays. Spot on.

Fedex now makes us drive on New Years Eve... What am I gonna do ? Quit?

When I worked in retail.....I automatically knew that I was going to have to work the holidays. It's the busiest time for the store. I had a lot of co-workers that would get turned down for vacation on some of those days.....and they quit because of it.

Suck it up and ****ing deal with it.

I don't disagree with that at all actually. I just think the idea of pushing Black Friday into Thanksgiving Day is stupid.

True, but Target employees don't make 60-70,000 grand a yr.

The level of bullshit a person is willing to accept increases with the amount they make.

For me, if I don't like my schedule, I find different employment.

I've worked in manufacturing for 16 yrs. Luckily, these places shut down for holidays.

I had no idea every one at the hospital was making so much money. Who knew janitors, administrative assistants, nurse assistants, cafeteria workers, etc. made so much money...

Maybe but a drunk will probably only puke on them, they will kill me

I do geriatric rehab and because of medicare laws I pretty much have to work every holiday. I get paid 1.5x and don't have much of a choice to take it off. No complaining here.

I worked retail one black friday a long time ago. 3am - 10pm. That sucked ****ing balls and I quit shortly after that. I witnessed the worst that society has to offer and it made me really hate people. I would never work that type of job again, omg that sucked.

Thank you for what you do. But I have always gotten more to work on holidays or have gotten time off in my favor.

Most retail locations say you can't take time off Black Friday weekend and several days in December. It's mandatory.

They could go on strike.


We saw how well that works http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2079/lebronlaughteeth1.png

Pretty much this.

A friend of mine recently got hired at Target and she was told, with about 40 other overnight coworkers, that "pretty much everyone in the room would be scheduled to work on Thanksgiving". Also, you think if they open to the public at 9 PM the employees will get there at 8:45? Some of you guys are so naive to the way things work. A large portion of them will be scheduled to come in several hours before, effectively ruining their holiday.

With that said, I understand the store needs to make money to pay you and if you took the job you pretty much have to nut up or shut up. I've quit a few jobs over scheduling issues (I was once schedule to work Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas day, New Years Eve, AND New Years day, ALL IN ONE SEASON- **** that shit!) so there's always that option. The thing is, as someone mentioned earlier, where does it stop? This is obviously an attempt by both Wal-Mart and Target to one-up each other. You just have to wonder where it will stop..

Don't go shopping on black Friday. Buy all your shit online or later in the week. Spread the word, pass out flyers and fly a banner.

Speaking of Target, for some reason all the good looking women in Topeka shop there.

Titties overload.

Goodness.

Then don't ****ing work retail.

The cougars go to Target instead of Wal-Mart.

ya, doesn't matter what the excuse is. You call in on black friday = fired. Your kid just died? fired. You have a 105 degree temp? fired. You got into a car wreck and broke 20 bones? fired.

people just do not matter to these corps, they are just their slaves.

MOTHER****ING TRUTH.

Glad the Target here in Topeka is walking distance from work.

The Wal-Mart here is closer. I go the extra distance to have nice scenery while I'm shopping.

Just another example of the bullshit entitlement issues in our society.

Some mexican will be glad to work your hours on Black Thursday Night.

but you do get to see back boobs if you shop at wal mart

Smart man.

I avoid Wal Mart at all costs.

Unless I'm depressed and needing a self esteem boost.

wanting human rights and a little decency and dignity in the work place = entitlement. JFC.

You completely missed my point.

I don't hear any health care workers complaining about working holidays.

Everyone I know that works in those hospitals WANT to work those holidays... it is double time. They usually have a list of people wanting to work.

It's a human right to have thanksgiving night off?

Should everyone everywhere have thanksgiving night off?

Basically all businesses should shut down? Is that it?

This is just about as bad as Roy thinking not having racial slurs on Chiefs Planet is against the first amendment.

Nobody is forced to enter into an employment agreement.

no, of course not. But forcing them to work 20 hour days with no increase in pay and no matter what happens you can't call out. That's pretty shitty. I don't blame them for acting out when they are being abused.

How the **** do you know that they aren't getting an increase in pay?

So overnight workers are shocked they have to work overnight on one of the busiest days? LOL

And you guys aren't paying close attention. Target is NOT trying to one up Wal-mart or other stores because they are one of the ones not opening at 8 pm. Sure they don't want to miss out but they are least opening an hour later. And this crap about them getting there a few hours early? Maybe management but the regular workers have no reason to get there before 8:30 if the place was prepared properly the day and night before.

They get overtime, moron.

They're not being remotely abused.

They should do a little research into history to see real worker's abuse.

That's the basic reasoning behind black Friday....IMO if they want to start the sales thanksgiving day, start them at 11pm or midnight so people can spend the day with family and go to the store around 8pm to get the sale going.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Oh for ****s sake, not this corporations don't care bullshit again.

it's okay dude, you are better than all of those worthless people. So you can chill knowing that.

I've always tried to understand other people's problems rather than just pointing and laughing at them without fully understanding. It's called kindness, it's rare in today's world.

I worked in management for a large retail corporation for 5 years and never heard about any hourly employee being forced to work a 20 hour day.

The sale starts at 9PM at Target. So you figure they have to be there 1-2 hours before it opens (which could be less depending on how the store is setup). You're telling me that all day Thanksgiving until 7 PM isn't enough time? If it isn't....go get a ****ing different job.

Oh my God.....I should totally get a petition together because on Election day....my job makes me work 20-22 hours in one day. And then I have to turn around and be here the next day at 8 AM.


Oh wait....I get paid overtime. I should shut my ****ing mouth.

The overtime doesn't always happen. Usually doesn't unless they're working more than 8 hours in a shift. Just because it's "black Friday" doesn't mean they get extra pay. Just another minimum wage day.

If they're hired as part time employees......they already know that. The store doesn't have to give them 40 hours.

If they don't have to be to the store until 7 or 8pm, they need to STFU and go to work. I was under the impression that they would have to be there much earlier.

Here is my question, though.

Does the store manager have to be there at the same time as the average Joe workers? I'm not talking about dept managers or mid level guys...does the store manager have to work that night?

Most major retailers pay "holiday pay" which is a guaranteed 8 hours on top of your normal pay.

Exactly. So they're giving up their time with they're family to go work for peanuts and then come back during "normal" hours and do it again.

Most of them are probably convicts or drug users so I say **** em anyways. They probably don't have any family to speak of anyways. Low lifes who deserve to be looked down upon. If I want my goddamn $10 toaster at 10 PM Thanksgiving night those mother ****ers better be giving thanks they have a job to sell it to me. Nawwhatimsayin'

negative. "black" Friday is not an official holiday.

I bet half of them take it off and then go shop. Worthless and unappreciative.

We arent talking about the day after Thanksgiving.

A big sales day like that? I bet the store manager is there.

Working on Thanksgiving is a holiday.....whether you call it Black Friday or not.