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NinerDoug 11-12-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10181804)
It's not just the "robotic" device. It's Bukakke, it's sex, it's mind-altering, mood-enhancing drug use. It's so many things...

So you're saying that everything that represents the immoral according to traditional values, sex, drugs, etc., are all much more prevalent in Japan. Is that right?

DaneMcCloud 11-12-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10181989)
So you're saying that everything that represents the immoral according to traditional values, sex, drugs, etc., are all much more prevalent in Japan. Is that right?

It's a completely different society, period.

NinerDoug 11-12-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10181998)
It's a completely different society, period.

There is no arguing with that proposition.

I just think the idea that things that we consider immoral here are more prevalent there is completely baseless. More than that, it's fictional, and original at that, because I have never heard anyone say anything like that before. If anything, honor and tradition are probably exponentially stronger there than they are here.

FYI, a google search turned this up, which I found interesting.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...-use-map-world

CrazyPhuD 11-12-2013 07:24 PM

Japanese VR porn....it's all fun and games until the machine starts putting eels up your anus.....

Garcia Bronco 11-12-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10181644)
I may get skewered for this but I think Dane's point applies somewhat to our society as well...

It's certainly a contributing factor from where we were.

Garcia Bronco 11-12-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10181688)
Dane isn't talking about religion per say, its more about moral code that majority of the USA goes off is based on Judeo-Christian values.

Exactly. So many people get caught up in the dogma at the height of there resolve against this moral code neglecting the fact that it was bore out of developing civilizations evolution.

Garcia Bronco 11-12-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10181755)
I think that's a sad statement, to be honest.

Family provides us with many of our greatest successes. Sure, going it lone-wolf is easier, but so is settling in at middle-management. Ambition is a bitch and sometimes it hurts more than it helps. But if done well, that ambition will serve you greater than ambivalence ever will.

The same applies to family life. Marry poorly and make a marginal investment and it's not going to work to your advantage. Marry well and work on it and you'll live a happier, more well-rounded life for it.

It's tougher at times, but I think your life is far more fulfilling and far more rewarding for the effort.

But your mileage may vary.

It's more than sad.

Of course the struggle of experience serves one better, but one can achieve this without off-spring. It's just a different way of going about things. Of course I see the value in teaching and raising children. To share in their failures and successes. Nature desires this IMO and my post's existence proves your point in terms of the experience's value.
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KC native 11-12-2013 07:56 PM

Japan is a very sexually repressed culture and has been for quite a while. This has filtered down to the younger generation as non-interest in sex.

There are many reasons that Japan is in the situation they are in, not coming from a Judeo Christian background is not one of them (nor is their version of Buddhism responsible either).

Their corporate culture, gender roles in society (for career women getting pregnant is a career ender there, and marriage puts you at risk for pregnancy so career minded women have an aversion to sex and marriage), and their sexual repression in their public facing lives are all much more responsible.

Dayze 11-12-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10181947)
Anyone here ever banged a jap?

LMAO

Canofbier 11-12-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 10182149)
Japanese VR porn....it's all fun and games, especially when the machine starts putting eels up your anus.....

FYP

lcarus 11-12-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10181688)
Dane isn't talking about religion per say, its more about moral code that majority of the USA goes off is based on Judeo-Christian values.

Yeah but even a lot of Christians blow their religion off when it comes to getting off. I live in a big time Christian state and city, and you'd be hard pressed to find a chick that truly believes and follows "marriage before sex".

Canofbier 11-12-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10181968)
Still not getting it. Is he trying to say that: 1) This will be a common household item in Japan, and 2) It won't sell here?

You can buy sex in the US. You can buy sex toys in the US. So someone in Japan develops a high tech sex toy, and that means the nation is immoral or weird because of its lack of a Judeo-Christian origin?

Sounds like some rather lame ass reasoning to me.

This is pretty spot-on. Just like the rest of the world has a skewed perception of the US (and who can blame them when they're seeing things like "16 and Pregnant", "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" and "Jersey Shore"), we're getting a doctored-up account of Japan and their culture, which although very different from ours, isn't as freakish as we're often led to believe.

I don't know enough about the issue of sex in Japan to comment definitively, but a simple search turned up a different Slate article that makes a reasonably well-stated case against the idea. It will be interesting to see how Japan changes demographically over the next few decades and what affect that may have on their global influences (as was mentioned by someone else earlier in the thread).

Sannyasi 11-12-2013 08:11 PM

95% of Japanese people have the same reaction to this kind of stuff that we do... "WTF?" The more mundane, ordinary aspects of Japanese culture never make it over here to us for the exact reason that it isn't strange or perverse.

I wonder if people in other countries are reading brony articles and pontificating about it on internet forums, trying to come up with all of the sociological and cultural reasons for why Americans want to **** rainbow colored ponies.

Crush 11-12-2013 08:38 PM

Call me when they invent humanoid cylons.

Hammock Parties 11-12-2013 08:41 PM

i think im turning japanese
i think im turning japanese
i really think so


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