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Huffmeister 01-23-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffmeister (Post 9344451)
Actually, its a stop light, not a stop sign. Stop signs don' give you a half second warning before they appear.

I was able to view the video of the incident online, and it was yellow for much longer than a half a second. Upon further review, I was clearly in the wrong. The light was yellow before I even entered the frame, and it turned red a split second before I hit the line.

So I'll take my lumps and pay the fine. It mentions that it's "an ordinance violation and no points will be assessed", so at least I don't have to worry about that.

Valiant 01-23-2013 01:26 PM

Find out how long the light should be for yellow. There are a lot of lights not timed properly. See if it is within the time. The cameras are a farce and just revenue for a 3rd party.

You can also contest and state the road conditons and ic3.

Frosty 01-23-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 9344580)
Find out how long the light should be for yellow. There are a lot of lights not timed properly. See if it is within the time. The cameras are a farce and just revenue for a 3rd party.

Quite a few cities that have installed red light cameras have shortened the yellow time to increase revenues.

Radar Chief 01-23-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffmeister (Post 9344369)
It seems like they shorten the length of yellow lights at those intersections so that they can nab more people.

Are you saying its more about generating revenue than safety? I’m shocked, SHOCKED I say.

Predarat 01-23-2013 01:54 PM

These things are scams between the companies that run them and the local governments. The cameras should not be legal to begin with. Then they send them late so you also get charged a late fee and the company will claim they sent it to you before. It is then up to you to prove they did not send it.

A Salt Weapon 01-23-2013 02:11 PM

Contest it, they have no way to prove you were driving. Your wife/husband was driving the car and you can not be forced to testify against a spouse. Done deal.

Radar Chief 01-23-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9344711)
These things are scams between the companies that run them and the local governments. The cameras should not be legal to begin with. Then they send them late so you also get charged a late fee and the company will claim they sent it to you before. It is then up to you to prove they did not send it.

Now that’s just crazy talk. :harumph:

okoye35chiefs 01-23-2013 02:26 PM

The last two times I got ticketed "I made a donation to the court" and they waived the ticket and accepted my donation.

It didn't go on my record. They don't let you do it all the time though~

tooge 01-23-2013 02:31 PM

pay the ticket and then make sure you stop at the red light from now on.

The Bunk 01-23-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9344414)
These are only fines.

It's not an actual moving violation that goes on your record.

That is how they are in Ohio. My sister got one in the Dayton area 2 years ago.

She failed to pay it and got a notice from a collection agency. No record of this with the courts.

In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.

Chief Gump 01-23-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 9344868)
In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.

Do they send the letter as a certified letter? If they don't they can never prove you received the letter.

BigMeatballDave 01-23-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bunk (Post 9344868)
In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.

Shitty operation.

What if someone is driving your car?

bobbymitch 01-23-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9344884)
Shitty operation.

What if someone is driving your car?

You get the privilege of ratting out who was driving so they can pay the fine.

Fire Me Boy! 01-23-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9344788)
Contest it, they have no way to prove you were driving. Your wife/husband was driving the car and you can not be forced to testify against a spouse. Done deal.

Unless I'm mistaken, they issue the ticket to the registered owner of the vehicle. Same for if you loan your car out to a friend and he doesn't feed the meter. You're still responsible.

A Salt Weapon 01-23-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9345030)
Unless I'm mistaken, they issue the ticket to the registered owner of the vehicle. Same for if you loan your car out to a friend and he doesn't feed the meter. You're still responsible.

Ahh, okay I can fix that. Register the vehicle under both the wife and husband names. Then they have to mail the ticket to either one of them or both. I thought the tickets had a spot to claim who was driving if it wasn't the owner. Then revert to the can't be forced to testify against a spouse.

Make no mistake, I am no laywer. This might not be sound legal advice, but it sounds like it has potential.


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