Fine, let's talk about Van Noy.
 

M'alright.

I was going to make a thread running down all the essentials on this guy and opening it up for discussion, but RunKC has to steal my thunder.

So.

Kyle Van Noy at 23. Do you, or do you not pull the trigger.

I'm not sure on this kid. All I know for sure is that are options are looking better and better at 23 all the time.

I know nothing about him, so here are some vids to get acclimated to...

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This kid looks explosive as ****. Great instincts, fast, lays the wood.

RunKC might be on to something.

If Haha, Cooks, Lee, or Beckham are there then I say no. I wouldn't be upset with the pick either way though. Really like him and feel he's being underrated.

Dee Ford can go **** himself. KVN is the ****ing man and can do everything. He's not some ****ing one-trick pony.

I swear to God this defense will RAPE if we get this kid. When I think of a piece needed to help beat the Donkeys, I think of this kid hitting Manning every time.

It really does add an interesting dimension to the defense. Lining up in sub packages with Walker/catapano, Poe, Hali, Houston, DJ, Van Noy, and Berry gives you a lot of flexibility in your play calling.

I'd post some positives, but I've already done so umpteenmillion times on Van Noy.

As I've previously stated multiple times, at the same stage, his game is exceedingly similar to Derrick Johnson, but Van Noy plays longer and is better at taking on blockers than DJ at the same point (last year in college). I think he has a better first step as well.

Very similar against the pass, as Van Noy is very adept at dropping back into coverage.

He's the most instinctive and polished player in this draft, IMO.

Oh, and this is his fiancée:

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what position do you see him playing?

I dont think he is suited as a S-ILB.
He seems a little undersized for 3-4 OLB (Hali is a prototypical 275lbs, while Houston is listed as 258lbs).

I think he would be best suited for DJ's role at W-ILB.
DJ is under contract through 2015.

I really do think that this kid can put this defense at another level this year. I really do.

The absolute worst thing that can happen is that he doesn't have success as a pass rusher on the edge and becomes the next DJ at ILB for this defense for years to come.

I agree with Sac in that he's the most instinctive and polished player, but on defense. He's no one-trick pony. This guy is an above-average player in every facet.

That's something that is extremely difficult to find.

Hadnt read your post yet, when I made mine. I agree with you. Van Noy would be wasted on the chiefs since DJ is under contract for the next 2yrs. DJ played 1038 snaps in 2013 according to PFF, so I dont think he necessarily needs to be in a rotation. I also dont know if it would be wise having 2 W-ILB (i.e. DJs) on the field at the same time. I think Van Noy's talents would be wasted (along with his body) taking on blockers for DJ to clean up by playing a S-ILB position.

This guy won't get drafted until the late second round.

If we are gonna talk about a guy that could possibly fall to us that I'd like at 23, lets talk about Anthony Barr...I'd rather have him, Ealy, Tuitt or Hageman.

There are other guys I like better for that role. For example, Chris Smith from Arkansas. @266lbs he ran the forty in an official 4.71 seconds. He has long (34") arms. He benched 28x.

I like Marcus Smith as well.

Guy plays angry. Gotta hand him that.