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ModSocks 09-24-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13757598)
Did you miss where 3 different guys had a chance to tackle him 5 yards short of the first down and whiffed?

That was on Hitchens.

BleedingRed 09-24-2018 09:08 AM

Look guys.........

I think this one stat is getting over looked. The Chiefs Defense has allowed 1st down on 3rd down only 8 times...... Sure team are 5/5 on 4th down but.

8/31 on third down isn't bad....

T-post Tom 09-24-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13758365)
Look guys.........

I think this one stat is getting over looked. The Chiefs Defense has allowed 1st down on 3rd down only 8 times...... Sure team are 5/5 on 4th down but.

8/31 on third down isn't bad....

28, 37, 27

ModSocks 09-24-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13758365)
Look guys.........

I think this one stat is getting over looked. The Chiefs Defense has allowed 1st down on 3rd down only 8 times...... Sure team are 5/5 on 4th down but.

8/31 on third down isn't bad....

That's really good.

I thought the corners played well for the 2nd consecutive week too.

ptlyon 09-24-2018 09:20 AM

I couldn't watch the game because of those commies at fox. But listening to Lenny and Mitch it sounded like they were doing more of that drop 8 bullshit. Can anyone confirm?

ModSocks 09-24-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13758410)
I couldn't watch the game because of those commies at fox. But listening to Lenny and Mitch it sounded like they were doing more of that drop 8 bullshit. Can anyone confirm?

No not really. I don't recall them ever going "prevent". There was a play on 3rd and forever in which they all dropped back, but that's standard and expected. Every NFL team does that. The 9ers converted not because of the playcall, but because Hitchens took a poor angle and let the TE cut inside and turn up field for the 1st.

RunKC 09-24-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13758360)
The WHOLE game matters.

These are just excuses. Attempts to find bright spots in a bad defense.

That's fine. I'm all for it. But they have a long way to go.

They played great in the first half minus the 3rd and 20 fallout.

It’s like this entire team goes into a “IDGAF mode” when they get a lead. It’s like Sutton is purposely telling them to only watch the sidelines so we can burn clock.

“Well we’re up by 28 let’s just relax as long as we’re burning clock”.

It works but holy hell is it bad to watch.

kgrund 09-24-2018 09:30 AM

What is absolutely killing this D more than anything is (1) blown coverages and (2) tackling.

ModSocks 09-24-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13758435)
They played great in the first half minus the 3rd and 20 fallout.

It’s like this entire team goes into a “IDGAF mode” when they get a lead. It’s like Sutton is purposely telling them to only watch the sidelines so we can burn clock.

“Well we’re up by 28 let’s just relax as long as we’re burning clock”.

It works but holy hell is it bad to watch.

The good news is that the corners are playing consistently well. Well enough to win.

We're struggling at ILB and safety.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13758364)
That was on Hitchens.

Regardless, it wasn't on Sutton, which was his point.

Molitoth 09-24-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13758435)
They played great in the first half minus the 3rd and 20 fallout.

It’s like this entire team goes into a “IDGAF mode” when they get a lead. It’s like Sutton is purposely telling them to only watch the sidelines so we can burn clock.

“Well we’re up by 28 let’s just relax as long as we’re burning clock”.

It works but holy hell is it bad to watch.

This is what is so maddening.

Sutton/Reid are basically trading free TD's in exchange for clock time.
If our offense makes 1 turnover mistake, this could EASILY backfire.

They aren't doing anything about it because there is a W on the stat at the end of the day.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13758689)
This is what is so maddening.

Sutton/Reid are basically trading free TD's in exchange for clock time.
If our offense makes 1 turnover mistake, this could EASILY backfire.

They aren't doing anything about it because there is a W on the stat at the end of the day.

The thing is, if our defense could make one or two tackles during the "prevent" period, we aren't even having this discussion.

ModSocks 09-24-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13758703)
The thing is, if our defense could make one or two tackles during the "prevent" period, we aren't even having this discussion.

Yeah. ILB and safety are killing us right now.

O.city 09-24-2018 11:13 AM

Yeah, you trade scores for time in those situations, same as baseball in runs for outs.

But you've gotta make them take time. Make them go 5 or 6 minutes for a TD. That's no problem.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13758746)
Yeah, you trade scores for time in those situations, same as baseball in runs for outs.

But you've gotta make them take time. Make them go 5 or 6 minutes for a TD. That's no problem.

We did it against the Chargers. One of their 2nd half drives took 8 minutes. That's exactly what we wanted because even though they closed the gap, there wasn't actually enough time left for them to tie or get ahead.


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