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saphojunkie 04-17-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9595289)
Stop talking sense!

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Dane'sCousin 04-17-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9595289)
Stop talking sense!

They should take the player with the highest possible upside even if it's a gamble. Geno, Floyd, whomever.

Prison Bitch 04-17-2013 10:55 AM

If Albert was really a top-10 tackle, teams would dump a 2nd for him. The market is clearly indicating they don't think he's all that.

WV 04-17-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9595301)

No no no...the Talking Heads think we should pick a T.

Deberg_1990 04-17-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9595225)
lol. I forgot about that LJ deal. JFC.


the Chiefs will come out of this draft with 1 starter suspect.

Most of the starting positions are already set.

Outside of the first pick, the rest is mostly depth.

KCDC 04-17-2013 11:09 AM

Hard to get excited about using the first pick of the draft on a "solid" lineman.

I'd rather take a risky QB project with great upside than a "solid" lineman.

Yeah we can get a risky QB in round 2 or 3 (if we had a round 2 pick), but you can pick a solid lineman there too (like Stephenson).

BlackHelicopters 04-17-2013 11:10 AM

A rookie wants to " help the team"? Shocking.

patteeu 04-17-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9595263)
People wonder why the "Geno Mafia" acts the way we do. He at least offers the team a legit shot to greatly improve a position of need for the future. Jekyll and company AT BEST offer a minimal future upgrade over the Top 10 Tackle we already have in Albert.

Geno offers a legit shot at a great improvement, but the tackles who are widely regarded as much better football players offer only a minimal upgrade at best. Geno love is a strange thing.

B14ckmon 04-17-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9595263)
People wonder why the "Geno Mafia" acts the way we do. He at least offers the team a legit shot to greatly improve a position of need for the future. Jekyll and company AT BEST offer a minimal future upgrade over the Top 10 Tackle we already have in Albert.

How does a top LT not help you improve a position of need for the future?

Or are you still in denial about Albert being a little bitch and getting shipped out?

B14ckmon 04-17-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9595311)
If Albert was really a top-10 tackle, teams would dump a 2nd for him. The market is clearly indicating they don't think he's all that.

Bingo. The fact that a team would want to spend a 1st rounder on Lane Johnson over a 2nd for Albert, says all.

RealSNR 04-17-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9595434)
Geno offers a legit shot at a great improvement, but the tackles who are widely regarded as much better football players offer only a minimal upgrade at best. Geno love is a strange thing.

A QB.

Versus a starting RT/LT.

Think, Pat. It's not that hard to understand why Geno is a much sexier and (it can be argued) smarter pick

RealSNR 04-17-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9595436)
How does a top LT not help you improve a position of need for the future?

Or are you still in denial about Albert being a little bitch and getting shipped out?

Because it's not a position of need. LTs aren't as valuable as they once were. If you have an adequate/good starting LT (which Albert is) you don't need much more than that.

B14ckmon 04-17-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9595457)
Because it's not a position of need. LTs aren't as valuable as they once were. If you have an adequate/good starting LT (which Albert is) you don't need much more than that.

What the ****? How is an LT not as valuable? It's a passing league. The most important positions in the NFL are QB > LT > Pass Rusher > WR

Bowser 04-17-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9595186)
For first overall money, I'd shovel human excrement.

No shit.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9595451)
A QB.

Versus a starting RT/LT.

Think, Pat. It's not that hard to understand why Geno is a much sexier and (it can be argued) smarter pick

BUT JAKE LONG DID WONDERS FOR MIAMI COMPLETELY TURNED THAT TEAM AROUND

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9595471)
What the ****? How is an LT not as valuable? It's a passing league. The most important positions in the NFL are QB > LT > Pass Rusher > WR

Yes, you moose knuckle, it's a passing league. And guess what! You need a QB worth a **** to compete in a passing league! With Alex Smith and his injury hostory coupled with the potential Geno brings, it should be a no brainer who our pick should be, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE A LEFT TACKLE FRANCHISE TAGGED.

But you know all of that.

RealSNR 04-17-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9595471)
What the ****? How is an LT not as valuable? It's a passing league. The most important positions in the NFL are QB > LT > Pass Rusher > WR

It's far more QB >>> pass rusher > LT.

Teams win Super Bowls with elite QBs while also putting pressure on the other team's elite QB.

There's a pretty good article about what new concepts in quick-pass spread systems and option reads are doing to the importance of the position

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/91...-espn-magazine


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