I'll be bitterly disappointed if Reid and Dorsey bring in Alex instead of Geno.

But Alex Smith is not Matt Cassel. If Reid and Dorsey decide to go in that direction, I'm not jumping off of a bridge. I'll hope that they are right and I am wrong.

I liked the earlier post in this thread where it was pointed out that if the Chiefs had drafted Mark Sanchez, there would be similar threads today saying that the Chiefs must draft Luke Joekel instead of Geno Smith in order to avoid history repeating itself.

Fact #1: The players are different, the guys doing the evaluations are different, and the situations are different.

Fact #2: No head coach or GM worth a shit lets the fans choose the quarterback, no matter how intense the feelings of the fans are.

Analogy fail

No, he's not. Over the course of his entire career, he's actually WORSE than Matt Cassel.

And if they go that direction, they're stupid. Just like Pioli was stupid. I don't have any hope and they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Period.

Now, for me, it's not just Alex Smith in a vacuum. If they still draft a QB #1 overall, that's something. But if we get Smith and draft a tackle, it's over for me. No more histrionics, I promise. Because I'm walking away.

Pretty sure 2009 < 2013, actually.

Look at the history. Herm didn't care about Marty's mistakes. Vermeil didn't care about Gunther's mistakes (though Vermeil was primarily a mistake unto himself when it concerned certain aspects of coaching). Pioli didn't care about Carl's mistakes. Carl didn't care about Steadman's mistakes.

Like it or not, when you take over a team, you inherit all the successes and failures of that team's past. And that means it would behoove somebody like Reid and Dorsey to look at the Chiefs and say, "Maybe Alex Smith isn't going to work. Maybe we should go a different direction that they haven't tried before. How about the draft?"

With the benefit of hindsight, Tyson Jackson was a better pick than Mark Sanchez.

It may be nice to think it would work that way, but do you really think Andy Reid is going to draw his conclusions based upon the history of the Chiefs, or will he draw them based upon his own personal history as head coach of the Eagles?

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

In an ideal world, he'd do both.

If they do that, I am assuming the responsibility of ChiefsPlanet's unrestrained id.

d- the diff is that you have veteran leaders as opposed to importing them. not that it'll make a diff, but that is one reason why you want veterans on your team.

This franchise dug a huge hole. they are climbing out.

I will go off like Rambo with a .50 Cal

Yup.

If you include only his last year as a Patriot and his entire Chiefs tenure, Cassel actually lays Alex Smith to waste.

Only when you include the years where he basically came in two times a year to hand the ball off to running backs does Alex Smith catch up.

That is all absolutely correct... but nobody is going out there making moves just to avoid repeating what the previous guy did. They're going to do what they think is right. No GM is ever going to draft a QB just because it hasn't been done in 30 years.
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I love how this place is ready to write off the Reid/Dorsey regime BEFORE THEIR FIRST FREAKING DRAFT, let alone the first game!

ROFL