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Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:03 AM

Late night bullshit: What it will cost to cut the following players in 2015:
 
We're walking into next offseason with approximately $5 million dollars right now.

Per overthecap.com:

If we cut Hali, we save 9m.

Charles, 6.7m

Sean Smith, 5.5m.

DJ, 5.25. ($0 dead money if we were to cut DJ -- keep your eyes here for a surprise cut.)

Bowe, 5m.

DeVito, 4m.

Daniel, 3.8m.

Avery, 3.5m.

Mays, 3m.

Fasano, 2m (+2m in dead money).

Alex Smith, 1.2m ($14m in dead money).

Keep in mind, this offseason, we're going to need to sign Houston. We're also probably going to try to sign Hudson. I'm guessing at this point that we let Allen Bailey walk. No other departing free agents will cost much of anything.

I think we end up cutting at least three of the more obvious players here (Hali and Sean Smith are obvious, along with possibly DJ and Fasano). That'll be enough to ink Houston and maybe Hudson. Everybody else walks, and we likely have zero activity in free agency for another year.

el borracho 09-18-2014 01:09 AM

They just gave Charles and Smith contract extensions. Seems unlikely they will cut them less than one year after negotiating contract extensions.

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 10925135)
They just gave Charles and Smith contract extensions. Seems unlikely they will cut them less than one year after negotiating contract extensions.

I'm pretty sure they can walk away from Alex Smith this year if they are so inclined. The dead money will hurt, but if Andy Reid gets fired, it's as doable as it's going to be for a couple of years.

Charles deal is strange... it's an extension, but cutting him saves over $6m, and doesn't even give us $2m in dead money.

Hammock Parties 09-18-2014 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10925129)
we likely have zero activity in free agency for another year.

ROFL

On the plus side, two years in a row of drafting at the top of every round in the draft should bring in some A+ talent!

Hammock Parties 09-18-2014 01:17 AM

If we had not signed the following bums:

Dunta
Fasano
Smith
Mays
Daniel

And not given Alex his absurd contract extension....

Is Albert a Chief?

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10925140)
ROFL

On the plus side, two years in a row of drafting at the top of every round in the draft should bring in some A+ talent!

Who I'd cut:

Hali (no way around it, he's getting cut)
S. Smith
DeVito
Daniel
Fasano

That'd net us 24 million. If we're married to losing Hali, then that allows us to sign Houston and sign a few B-grade FAs, or one A-grade FA. (The FA pool looks weak next year...)

If it was up to me, we'd keep Hali, which would give us about 15m. That'd ink Houston and land us 1 B-level FA.

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10925141)
If we had not signed the following bums:

Dunta
Fasano
Smith
Mays
Daniel

And not given Alex his absurd contract extension....

Is Albert a Chief?

Depends. Who would we have taken 1st overall if that were all the case?

The second we drafted Fisher, Albert's stay in KC was over. There's just no way Fisher would have ended up anywhere but at LT.

el borracho 09-18-2014 01:24 AM

DeBerg got 4 years
Grbac got 4 years
Green got 6 years
even Cassel got 4 years

I dislike Alex as a starting QB as much as anybody, but I don't believe there is any chance at all that he isn't here for another 2-3 years.

Hammock Parties 09-18-2014 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10925148)
Depends. Who would we have taken 1st overall if that were all the case?

The second we drafted Fisher, Albert's stay in KC was over. There's just no way Fisher would have ended up anywhere but at LT.

Well yeah. Obviously if you approach the offseason with "don't sign bums" in mind and ink Albert immediately you aren't gonna draft Fisher.

I bet we could have traded down and saved even MORE money on the contract we gave our fantasy R1 pick.

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 10925151)
DeBerg got 4 years
Grbac got 4 years
Green got 6 years
even Cassel got 4 years

I dislike Alex as a starting QB as much as anybody, but I don't believe there is any chance at all that he isn't here for another 2-3 years.

He's here as long as Reid is here.

If/when a new HC is brought in, that HC will want his own QB.

el borracho 09-18-2014 01:33 AM

Herm got 3 years
Haley got 3 years
Crennel only got 1, but there were airplanes dragging fan petitions and fan-organized "black outs" at the games and the team went 2-14.

Again, I think you are kidding yourself if you think Reid is going anywhere anytime soon.

Hammock Parties 09-18-2014 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 10925160)
Herm got 3 years
Haley got 3 years
Crennel only got 1, but there were airplanes dragging fan petitions and fan-organized "black outs" at the games and the team went 2-14.

Again, I think you are kidding yourself if you think Reid is going anywhere anytime soon.

This year and next will be awful.

The 4th year they will go 8-8 and Reid will get a contract extension.

Fortunately by then Alex will be getting ready to retire and they will be forced to draft his replacement.

RIGHT? RIGHT!?

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:40 AM

I'm thinking if we get two years in a row of what I expect this season is going to be, we're going to have a new HC and GM. And, yes, a new QB.

In my heart of hearts, I know we're getting a full four years, though. The Chiefs will be just competent enough in 2015 to earn something like a 9-7 record and miss the playoffs, "earning" Reid/Dorsey/Alex Smith another year.

el borracho 09-18-2014 01:43 AM

Probably depends on the definition of awful. Will Reid be 19-29 awful or will Reid be 25-23 awful?

The one positive is the history of developing QBs. Maybe Dorsey and Reid can trade some QBs to other teams for a change and maybe even develop a QBOTF for the Chiefs.

Direckshun 09-18-2014 01:53 AM

No one is trading for Daniel or Bray unless it's going to be something like a 6th or 7th rounder.

I think Reid is always interested in groom QBs. He wanted Manziel, after all.


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