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Deberg_1990 03-15-2008 01:36 PM

I watched the Jodie Foster Vigilante flick "The Brave One" last night. Pretty decent. I like it because it was a little bit deeper than the average revenge flick.

BTW, "The Brave One" is a horrible title.

irishjayhawk 03-15-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4632281)
I understood what the ending meant, and I still didn't like it. Now, I'm not the kind of guy who requires things to be wrapped-up, and I'm the last person on earth who wants the "good guy" to always win in a movie or a book, but it just...ended. There was no substance to it at all.

And I thought exactly the same thing about There Will Be Blood.

Two movies that could have been great that were utterly buried by their conclusions.

There Will Be Blood didn't conclude everything for you? I can understand No Country (which I rewatched last night and loved it, again.), but TWBB? Why?



On another note, I just watched Almost Famous as I had some how missed it. Easily in my top 5 movies all time. It was tremendous.

Baby Lee 03-15-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pikesome (Post 4632268)
If the first half, 3/4s, hadn't been such a good thriller I could see it. The problem, IMHO, was it feels like two different movies cut together. One a taunt thriller and then a philosophical ending with an old sheriff. Either concept could/would have been a great movie but it's like a roller-coaster that turns into a carousel.

I think you need to revisit the voiceover at the beginning. Seems like the other bookend that ties it all together.

And really, though the scenes with the drug runners and Chigurh and the good ol' boy were tense and taut, Tommy Lee pretty much plods along through the film with the same demeanor. ie, the rest of the movie might have been a roller coaster, but the sheriff was taking it all in from the carousel the entire movie.

He's kind of Sam Eliot's Stranger from The Big Lebowski.

Also, you gotta tie together a few things. Earlier in the story, Bell remarked that Chigurh was seeming more and more like a ghost. Then Chigurh busts in on Stephen Root's office; 1) 'how did you get past reception, 2) the accountant 'are you gonna kill me now?' Chigurh 'that depends, do you see me?" This culminates in Bell going into the room where good ol' boy was killed, and Chigurh is IN THE ROOM and Bell doesn't sense him. It's then that Bell sits on the bed and give up. That's when he goes to see his uncle who tells him he 'can't stop whats coming, it ain't waitin' on you.'

This is all tied up with Bell dreaming that his dad [former sheriff] was preparing the way for him over a difficult passage, then he woke up. Basically while his dad had equipped him as best he could, the evil today couldn't be stopped and he's realized that and gave/woke up.

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pikesome (Post 4632268)
If the first half, 3/4s, hadn't been such a good thriller I could see it. The problem, IMHO, was it feels like two different movies cut together. One a taunt thriller and then a philosophical ending with an old sheriff. Either concept could/would have been a great movie but it's like a roller-coaster that turns into a carousel.

I understand your take as well, i think the ending could've been a bit better, but at the same time i liked it, the bad guy did get away. The only thing i didn't like is that we didn't see brolin's characters demise, but i still liked the movie alot. Brolin is a hot ticket lately though in movies, rumors he may be in the new terminator movie as well with Christian Bale

keg in kc 03-15-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 4632350)
There Will Be Blood didn't conclude everything for you? I can understand No Country (which I rewatched last night and loved it, again.), but TWBB? Why?

I thought TWBB was all style and no substance. The acting was great, the score was great, but it had no heart. There was never any grounds why anybody should care about the story or the characters in it. Not that Day-Lewis' performance alone wasn't reason enough for anybody to see it, but it was, by far, the most vacuous of the 5 Best Picture nominations.

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 03:19 PM

Also, want to know shitty endings? How about I am legend...supposedly the DVD has an alternate ending version that makes the movie a bit better.

Baby Lee 03-15-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632439)
The only thing i didn't like is that we didn't see brolin's characters demise, but i still liked the movie alot.

Hated that at first, but learned to love it. In keeping with the theme of the senselessness and randomness of it all, we get the big setup of how Chigurh' and Moss' were in this big chess match, then Moss gets blindsided by a haphazard Bronco-full of Mexicans. Our only sense of what went down was that Bronco sliding into the intersection on two wheels with anonymous Mexicans hanging on for dear life in an apparently poorly/un-planned getaway.

It's like 'ooh, it's clash of the titans' then 'what, one of the titans taken out by a bunch of scrubs?'

pikesome 03-15-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632451)
Also, want to know shitty endings? How about I am legend...supposedly the DVD has an alternate ending version that makes the movie a bit better.

I concur. IFAIK No Country followed the book vis-a-vis the ending. I am Abomination didn't. And for no good reason I can see. One might not like No Country's ending but at least they tried.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632451)
Also, want to know shitty endings? How about I am legend...supposedly the DVD has an alternate ending version that makes the movie a bit better.

It was discussed in detail here. But the clip has been taken down. DVD comes out next week.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=legend

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4632516)
It was discussed in detail here. But the clip has been taken down. DVD comes out next week.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=legend

Yeah i dont want to know the ending, since i am buying the BluRay version for $18 on amazon. I heard it improved the movie a bit, so i may have to check it out after i see it. That movie was mostly good imo, atleast entertaining but the last 10 min were like "aahh **** it"

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 4632457)
Hated that at first, but learned to love it. In keeping with the theme of the senselessness and randomness of it all, we get the big setup of how Chigurh' and Moss' were in this big chess match, then Moss gets blindsided by a haphazard Bronco-full of Mexicans. Our only sense of what went down was that Bronco sliding into the intersection on two wheels with anonymous Mexicans hanging on for dear life in an apparently poorly/un-planned getaway.

It's like 'ooh, it's clash of the titans' then 'what, one of the titans taken out by a bunch of scrubs?'

That is very true...you just got used to brolins character and seeing every step, then all the sudden his ass is dead like a nobody. Interesting way of doing it, but yes the movie was good and i purchased it as well

irishjayhawk 03-15-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632451)
Also, want to know shitty endings? How about I am legend...supposedly the DVD has an alternate ending version that makes the movie a bit better.

Sadly, it doesn't make it better. Sorry to rain on the parade. I Am Legend is an epic failure and shouldn't even have the gall to name itself after the book it's based on. Or isn't based on....

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Originally Posted by pikesome (Post 4632512)
I concur. IFAIK No Country followed the book vis-a-vis the ending. I am Abomination didn't. And for no good reason I can see. One might not like No Country's ending but at least they tried.

Too true.

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632519)
Yeah i dont want to know the ending, since i am buying the BluRay version for $18 on amazon. I heard it improved the movie a bit, so i may have to check it out after i see it. That movie was mostly good imo, atleast entertaining but the last 10 min were like "aahh **** it"

See above. I may have asked you this already but have you read the book?

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 4632541)
Sadly, it doesn't make it better. Sorry to rain on the parade. I Am Legend is an epic failure and shouldn't even have the gall to name itself after the book it's based on. Or isn't based on....



Too true.



See above. I may have asked you this already but have you read the book?

Never have, i heard it crapped on it basically...

Alot of plotholes etc...i guess its kind've one of those movies if you don't put too much thought into it, its enjoyable a bit.

irishjayhawk 03-15-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4632543)
Never have, i heard it crapped on it basically...

Alot of plotholes etc...i guess its kind've one of those movies if you don't put too much thought into it, its enjoyable a bit.

Well, the alternate ending is better than the original, no doubt. But it's a half step on a stair case of 10 stairs.

Sure-Oz 03-15-2008 04:58 PM

Weren't those things vampires in the book or something?


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