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Hammock Parties 04-06-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9563146)

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.

With an elite QB.

Alex Smith isn't taking a 9-7 team anywhere.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-06-2013 08:50 PM

Here we go...I can see it now:

"Didn't Alex just take the niners to the NFC Championship...?"

Bowser 04-06-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9563127)
The Broncos are probably a 14-2 team.

We call this move the Garcia Bronco.

Rasputin 04-06-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9563146)
The 2011 NY Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals were two minutes away from a Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.

If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.

Messier 04-06-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9563190)
If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.

I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9563190)
If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.

I'm just the messenger.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-06-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9563199)
I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.

"This season" being the key phrase.
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milkman 04-06-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9563041)
I understand that some people feel that way but I spoke to someone today at great length that's been a frequent contributor for two decades at both ESPN and the NFL Network that had the opposite view.

Without going into too much detail, the "League" views the Chiefs as a real playoff threat this season and the consensus is that the Alex Smith move was genius, especially when coupled with Reid. The "League" has also been extremely impressed with their moves in free agency.

I was also told that the Bills have no interest in Smith, have targeted Nassib and will take him with their second round pick, so eliminate him from contention. If there's an unlikely run on QB's, they'll be more than happy to trade up into the late first round and grab him.

Take it for what it's worth. It's not "Bible" but it was interesting and I appreciated the input, especially since we're so close to the draft.

Again, FWIW.

This is not a dig at you.

ESPN analysts, and analysts all over, had the Chiefs as a playoff team.

They also thought that the move to get Cassel by Pioli when he first took the job was a great move.

Can't say I care much for how experts and analysts see things.

I personally think that if Reid tries to implement his offense the way he likes to run it with Alex Smith, this is a 5 win team at best.

If he adapts and asks Smith to manage the game in much the same way that Harbaugh, and Dontari Poe takes an impressive step forward in his progress, then this might be a 9 win team.

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9563241)
This is not a dig at you.

ESPN analysts, and analysts all over, had the Chiefs as a playoff team.

They also thought that the move to get Cassel by ***** when he first took the job was a great move.

Can't say I care much for how experts and analysts see things.

I personally think that if Reid tries to implement his offense the way he likes to run it with Alex Smith, this is a 5 win team at best.

If he adapts and asks Smith to manage the game in much the same way that Harbaugh, and Dontari Poe takes an impressive step forward in his progress, then this might be a 9 win team.

Again, I'm just a messenger.

milkman 04-06-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9563199)
I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.

The question is, or should be, is there one that can play better in the years to come?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-06-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9563146)
The 2011 NY Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals were two minutes away from a Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.

Kurt Warner isn't walking through that door. Eli Manning isn't walking through that door, and Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through that door.

Yeah, you can win a SB as a WC if you have elite QB play.

Welp...

The_Doctor10 04-06-2013 09:22 PM

I suppose the best thing to remember is that Reid is never going to be satisfied with 'just ok' qb play long term. When McNabb began to decline, he drafted Kolb, signed Vick. When Vick wasnt a long term fix, he drafted Foles.

Alex Smith is here to establish some sort of consistency at the position. He's not here because Reid wants to show the NFL he's a genius who picks qbs in the 7th.

I like geno, and if they pick him, great. But if everyone sees something and you don't, what are the odds that it's everyone else?

Saccopoo 04-06-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9563064)
The Chiefs aren't a playoff threat while Peyton Manning is in the AFC West.

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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-06-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10 (Post 9563263)
I suppose the best thing to remember is that Reid is never going to be satisfied with 'just ok' qb play long term. When McNabb began to decline, he drafted Kolb, signed Vick. When Vick wasnt a long term fix, he drafted Foles.

Alex Smith is here to establish some sort of consistency at the position. He's not here because Reid wants to show the NFL he's a genius who picks qbs in the 7th.

I like geno, and if they pick him, great. But if everyone sees something and you don't, what are the odds that it's everyone else?

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

The_Doctor10 04-06-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9563268)
FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

The biggest problem with both Kolb and Vick is their inability to stay on the field; both are concussion magnets. Subtract some severe brain trauma, there's very little wrong with them as quarterbacks. Vick's second season in Philly was as dominant a season as a qb has had in the last fifteen years. And largely credited to the work Reid did with him.


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