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GloucesterChief 07-17-2017 08:02 PM

So, Dragonstone is at the mouth of Blackwater Bay and basically can control the water routes in and out of Kings Landing and no one was defending it?

It had better be a trap or it makes Jamie look pretty dumb as overall commander of the Lannister forces.

Buehler445 07-17-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12960802)
So, Dragonstone is at the mouth of Blackwater Bay and basically can control the water routes in and out of Kings Landing and no one was defending it?

It had better be a trap or it makes Jamie look pretty dumb as overall commander of the Lannister forces.

He just rolled in from river run because his **** sister told him to.

The Franchise 07-17-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12960802)
So, Dragonstone is at the mouth of Blackwater Bay and basically can control the water routes in and out of Kings Landing and no one was defending it?

It had better be a trap or it makes Jamie look pretty dumb as overall commander of the Lannister forces.

The Lannister forces aren't this huge ****ing army. They have to protect Casterly Rock as well as Kings Landing. They don't have the man power to cover that much ground.

BigRichard 07-17-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12959466)
Interesting. I didn't think about the horn as the gift. I thought it would be the decimation of Dany's fleet, but that is an interesting perspective.

I think it could possibly be Tyrion. If he is able to get to him and capture him.

RustShack 07-17-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12960802)
So, Dragonstone is at the mouth of Blackwater Bay and basically can control the water routes in and out of Kings Landing and no one was defending it?

It had better be a trap or it makes Jamie look pretty dumb as overall commander of the Lannister forces.

It's like all off the abandoned castles on the wall. There just aren't enough men. The Lannisters barely have any allies, who would go there? Hell all of the people who should have control of Casterly Rock are all in Kinglanding.

RustShack 07-17-2017 08:59 PM

The gift will be the sandsnakes after he destroys the greyjoy fleet. Which Danny doesn't really need anymore anyways, since her and her army has made it to Westeros.

GloucesterChief 07-17-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12960879)
The gift will be the sandsnakes after he destroys the greyjoy fleet. Which Danny doesn't really need anymore anyways, since her and her army has made it to Westeros.

Dragonstone is an island. Destroy the fleet and you destroy a good chunk of the army and leave the rest to starve on an island and Dany doesn't know a Davos Seaworth.

RustShack 07-17-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12960887)
Dragonstone is an island. Destroy the fleet and you destroy a good chunk of the army and leave the rest to starve on an island and Dany doesn't know a Davos Seaworth.

Obviously not every single ship is going to be manned/in this battle.

ThaVirus 07-17-2017 10:15 PM

As far as in-world logic is concerned, like others have said, there just aren't enough men. They've got enemies at all sides.

For budget purposes, they probably just couldn't work in another battle that would have ended up as a slaughterhouse anyway.

Dylan 07-18-2017 01:25 AM

In a Wall Street documentary in front of a live audience, Christopher Farley Senior Director, The Wall Street Journal interviewed Kit Harington in advance of the season premiere.

Farley asked Harington, "Whom would you like to see on the Iron Throne?" Harington replied, "Tyrion."

After Farley pressed him further, Harington admitted, "Personally, I don't really tell my theories about things, I think it could be...It's not exactly Tyrion, but I think it could be Tyrion."


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DJ's left nut 07-18-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12960832)
The Lannister forces aren't this huge ****ing army. They have to protect Casterly Rock as well as Kings Landing. They don't have the man power to cover that much ground.

You just blew a hole in the center of town and killed a few dozen nobles.

Cersei should've been finding a loyalist to garrison Dragonstone - it's a plot hole. Dragonstone has been left abandoned for probably a year or more (we can't be sure given the timelines but we know that the iron fleet made it all the way around the southern tip of Westeros and found Dany. Meanwhile Varys was able to get all the way to Dorne and meet with Oleanna Tyrell since the Sept was blown up). There was PLENTY of time to get someone installed in Dragonstone. Send the Marbrands or something.

You can jump up a minor noble house and give them, y'know, a castle and they'll go ahead and move.

The Franchise 07-18-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12961197)
You just blew a hole in the center of town and killed a few dozen nobles.

Cersei should've been finding a loyalist to garrison Dragonstone - it's a plot hole. Dragonstone has been left abandoned for probably a year or more (we can't be sure given the timelines but we know that the iron fleet made it all the way around the southern tip of Westeros and found Dany. Meanwhile Varys was able to get all the way to Dorne and meet with Oleanna Tyrell since the Sept was blown up). There was PLENTY of time to get someone installed in Dragonstone. Send the Marbrands or something.

You can jump up a minor noble house and give them, y'know, a castle and they'll go ahead and move.

Dragonstone is a hard place to just throw someone into though. You can't grow shit there....and Cersei mentioned that Highgarden is the one with all of the wheat and food.

vailpass 07-18-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12961225)
Dragonstone is a hard place to just throw someone into though. You can't grow shit there....and Cersei mentioned that Highgarden is the one with all of the wheat and food.

DJ has a good point and so do you, Dragonstone is not a highly desired property. Not able to feed itself and loaded with Targ ghosts.

Better alternative would have been to knock it down or blow it up. Cersei destroys bigger before breakfast.

Big thing is to get to that dragon glass.

raybec 4 07-18-2017 11:21 AM

Sir Bronn of the Blackwater will be promised Dragonstone if he is willing to go take it.

Swanman 07-18-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12961197)
You just blew a hole in the center of town and killed a few dozen nobles.

Cersei should've been finding a loyalist to garrison Dragonstone - it's a plot hole. Dragonstone has been left abandoned for probably a year or more (we can't be sure given the timelines but we know that the iron fleet made it all the way around the southern tip of Westeros and found Dany. Meanwhile Varys was able to get all the way to Dorne and meet with Oleanna Tyrell since the Sept was blown up). There was PLENTY of time to get someone installed in Dragonstone. Send the Marbrands or something.

You can jump up a minor noble house and give them, y'know, a castle and they'll go ahead and move.

In the books they did, and that's where Loras died during the attack on Dragonstone. Now if fatass would stop dicking his fans around, we may actually get more reading material from him before he eats one Big Mac too many and has a grabber.


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