milkman & myself, bosschief & Dave, other posters here have pointed out how you manipulate to make your points. you're a ****ing liar dane. I hate liars. but what the hell, I don't know you other than the bullshit you spew here so don't take it personally. but here in this domain, you lie like a ****ing dog when you want to.

Once more, GO **** YOURSELF

Actually, Dane and I have had a pretty civil debate.

I haven't pointed out any manipulation.

I have stated strongly my disagreement, but I respect his opinions enough to keep it civil.

Oh, and he apparently respects mine enough to keep it civil on his end.

whatever floats your autoerotic asphyxiation sweety

Are you hitting on Dane?? Cause to me you are asking him play swords.

Yeah sure others have done lots of things. I bet those SB winners had a decent GM too.
IIRC there was 8 HC changes that year as well as a few DC positions. This place was complaining that we wouldn't have a choice because he was going to be the best option left with his recent success in AZ. Lets not exaggerate too much we know he wasn't the ONLY one. He was just the best option at that time.
There were tons of posters saying that they wouldn't be suprised if we didn't change both coordinator positions the next offseason. In other words Pendergast was a stop-gap type.

I'd say that you and I are in agreement roughly 85% of the time and when we do disagree, I certainly respect your opinion. And after chatting in the forum in a civil manner for the better part of 12 years, attacking you or your opinion is unthinkable.

There is no ****ing way in the universe that a guy that constantly oversaw the 31st ranked NFL defense was the best option.

^^This.

I am not trying to say he was the best. That THEY together did. Remember they hired Pendergast as the LB coach IIRC. Then when they couldn't find anyone that they liked or that was willing to take the position. They promoted him. I am sure they were figuring that he could and would go back to just a position coach when they found a person that they wanted.
All of that stuff was another part of their original mistakes. You don't hire position coaches before the coordinator.

Clancy Pentegast was never hired to be the defensive coordinator. He was hired to be a position coach while Pioli was still trying to hire Romeo to run the defense.

He was named the defensive coordinator weeks after being under contract in KC and Haley said multiple times during that span that "they" were still looking for a "DC".

It was only after Romeo publicly turned down the job that Clancy was named to the position.

Looking at it all now, it was the first sign that we were standing on the tracks and a train full of hurt was heading our way.

these are facts that elude dane the incredible pussytard.

He just puts more blame on Haley than some of the rest of us. He is entitled to his opinion. I know he can be harsh but I think he is just frustrated with it all. Haley is part of that. He might not of had final say or whatever. But Haley was the HC and those decisions should of come down to him. I think Haley being a rookie HC was basicly being lead by Pioli.