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houstonwhodat 04-15-2013 12:03 PM

Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick
 
According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."



http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

L.A. Chieffan 04-15-2013 12:04 PM

We're pretty much set. We can do whatever we want, thats what is great about our position

Mr_Tomahawk 04-15-2013 12:05 PM

Trade that shit to the Jets.

mcaj22 04-15-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9588263)
We're pretty much set. We can do whatever we want, thats what is great about our position

actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

RealSNR 04-15-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008.
I mean, if Reid/Dorsey would have listened to Chiefs Planet, they wouldn't have this problem.

We warned them about this and they made the Smith trade anyway. And NOW they're like, "But the 1st overall pick is a terrible thing to waste on Luke Joeckel."

I sometimes think NFL GMs get so blinded by their "process" that the simple things in a draft/offseason can blindside them. It seems like the Chiefs said, "Who the **** cares, just get Alex. There's gotta be a 1st overall calibre player for us." And when there wasn't, they got caught with their pants down like a bunch of bitches.

Chief_For_Life58 04-15-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9588269)
actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

Geno "Chocolate Thunder Dick" Smith

morphius 04-15-2013 12:10 PM

We could let the time run out, and sit till we get where we want or somebody want to jump someone and trades with us. Not sure if it is legal, not sure if it is even a good idea, but it would be crazy to watch someone try it once.

Old Dog 04-15-2013 12:11 PM

Legal, yes....good idea no

DTLB58 04-15-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9588269)
actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

Or forced to to take a lot less to trade out.

You decide Dorsey/Reid make the pick or trade out for less than market value on a normal year?

Deberg_1990 04-15-2013 12:17 PM

heh, its a facinating dilemma because the Chiefs are desperate to move out, and nobody wants to move up because there isnt a player worthy of moving up to get.


Who caves?

Marcellus 04-15-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9588272)
I mean, if Reid/Dorsey would have listened to Chiefs Planet, they wouldn't have this problem.

We warned them about this and they made the Smith trade anyway. And NOW they're like, "But the 1st overall pick is a terrible thing to waste on Luke Joeckel."

I sometimes think NFL GMs get so blinded by their "process" that the simple things in a draft/offseason can blindside them. It seems like the Chiefs said, "Who the **** cares, just get Alex. There's gotta be a 1st overall calibre player for us." And when there wasn't, they got caught with their pants down like a bunch of bitches.

So by your logic because there isn't a person worth a shit at #1 overall (and there isn't) they SHOULDN"T have traded for Alex Smith.

You are going to make a great GM for the Raiders one day.

morphius 04-15-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9588278)
Legal, yes....good idea no

I meant to say that it was probably a very bad idea. But in a year when all the top 5 picks are meh, watching a bunch of teams sitting on their hands could make this more entertaining then watching us pick a LT.

BigCatDaddy 04-15-2013 12:19 PM

Geno is the only player that makes sense at #1 with his possible upside. They are making shit too complicated.

Canofbier 04-15-2013 12:19 PM

I don't like the wording used here, but I'll bet it's true. The player we'll get out of our first draft pick is almost identical, whether he's taken at 1.1, 1.4, or even 1.8 or later. I'm still hoping that we take Geno, but I don't expect it at all; that being the case, I just want us to trade back and recoup as much value as is possible in a class with a lack of elite talent.

gblowfish 04-15-2013 12:22 PM

We should go all North Korea on the rest of the NFL and threaten to draft Geno unless somebody steps up with a deal right freaking NOW!!!


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