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Tribal Warfare 02-23-2013 04:18 AM

Prisco's Mock Draft
 
2013 NFL mock draft: Chiefs select Geno Smith with first pick

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia -- They have to get one somewhere. Why not here?

2. Jacksonville Jaguars: Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU -- He has the speed they need off the edge.

3. Oakland Raiders: Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State -- They have to amp up the pass rush.

4. Philadelphia Eagles: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M -- They will get Jason Peters back, but this kid is too good to pass up.

5. Detroit Lions: Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M -- The Aggies go back-to-back here. He would fill a major need to help liven up the pass rush.

6. Cleveland Browns: Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia -- There are medical issues, but the kid has explosive speed off the edge.

7. Arizona Cardinals: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama -- They need to run the ball better. And with Levi Brown coming back to play left tackle, they could opt for, possibly, the best player in the draft.

8. Buffalo Bills: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee -- This is a big-play league, and they lack anything other than Stevie Johnson on the outside.

9. New York Jets: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah -- Mike DeVito is a free agent, and Sione Pouha is getting up in the years.

10. Tennessee Titans: Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama -- You can never have enough corners in a division with Andrew Luck.

11. San Diego Chargers: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan -- He is moving up on a lot of boards and would fill a major need.

12. Miami Dolphins: Keenan Allen, WR, California -- They have to get weapons for Ryan Tannehill.

13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State -- He might be the most gifted of all corners in this draft.

14. Carolina Panthers: Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida -- I love this kid, and they need a big body inside.

15. New Orleans Saints: Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU -- He is raw but talented. They need a lot of defensive help.

16. St. Louis Rams: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma -- They could take him and play him at left tackle and move Roger Saffold to the right side.

17. Pittsburgh Steelers: John Jenkins, DT, Georgia -- He looks great on some plays, bad on others. But he is a big, strong and the Steelers need help in the middle.

18. Dallas Cowboys: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri -- When I watched the Tigers play, this kid was all over the field.

19. New York Giants: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford -- With Martellus Bennett being a free agent, they need a weapon in the middle of the field.

20. Chicago Bears: Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame -- With Marc Trestman on board, they need a pass-catching tight end.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas -- They can't get by with Chris Crocker playing again. Vaccaro would be an upgrade.

22. St. Louis Rams (From Washington Redskins): Jonathan Cyprien, S, Florida International -- They need to get Craig Dahl off the field. This kid impressed at the Senior Bowl.

23. Minnesota Vikings: Kawann Short, DT, Purdue -- They need another power player inside.

24. Indianapolis Colts: D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama -- They have to protect Andrew Luck better. Fluker is a big, strong right tackle.

25. Seattle Seahawks: Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State -- Alan Branch is a free agent, and they need big bodies in the middle of their defense.

26. Green Bay Packers: Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama -- They have to improve inside on their line.

27. Houston Texans: Tavon Austin, WR-KR, West Virginia -- They lack the speed in the middle of the field. Austin gives it to them.

28. Denver Broncos: Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina -- They need more power players inside.

29. New England Patriots: Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina -- The right-guard spot is unsettled, and Logan Mankins is getting old.

30. Atlanta Falcons: Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon -- It's time they got somebody to help John Abraham rush the passer.

31. San Francisco 49ers: Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State -- Let's face it; the 49ers' corners didn't have a great postseason.

32. Baltimore Ravens: Kevin Minter, LB, LSU -- The Ravens lose Ray Lewis to retirement, and Dannell Ellerbe is a free agent who might not be back.

ChiefRocka 02-23-2013 08:53 AM

Geno/Te'o

Sign me up!

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 09:06 AM

Here's everyones thought process when clicking dis:
"Oh god ****ing Prisco is reerune......GENO!!!!!!"

-King- 02-23-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9427809)
Here's everyones thought process when clicking dis:
"Oh god ****ing Prisco is reerune......GENO!!!!!!"

ROFL

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 11:22 AM

Only one QB in the first round? In that case it may be good to wait until the second to pick a QB?

htismaqe 02-23-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428086)
Only one QB in the first round? In that case it may be good to wait until the second to pick a QB?

Why?

We got the best one. You'd rather have 2nd best?

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428086)
Only one QB in the first round? In that case it may be good to wait until the second to pick a QB?

When you're shopping for the face of your franchise, you're not shopping for ****ing value. You're looking for the right guy.

This definitely applies when you have the #1 overall pick and your QB depth chart sucks assholes. This applies for the Chiefs.

When you went house shopping (or looking for a place to rent) did you think "well I can save 30 bucks and live in a crack house that's kinda closer to work"?

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 11:28 AM

Im just not convinced that Geno is that much better than the other QBs, which according to this mock, could be had in the second.

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 11:29 AM

I think you're quite mistaken along with Pete Prisco, if he thinks only one QB is going in the first round.

I say a minimum of 3 go in the first round with a chance of 3 of them going off the board within the first ten picks.

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9428103)
I think you're quite mistaken along with Pete Prisco, if he thinks only one QB is going in the first round.

I say a minimum of 3 go in the first round with a chance of 3 of them going off the board within the first ten picks.


I cant imagine only one QB going in the first but if it went down this way, there are quite a few other QBs well worth a second.

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428113)
I cant imagine only one QB going in the first but if it went down this way, there are quite a few other QBs well worth a second.

I just can't look at it that way. If I'm looking for a leader for my franchise and understanding this is a do or die decision, I'm not clearance rack shopping it.

I work on determining the one player I want for my team than determining what pick I'll need to invest to get them after that. Could give a **** less about the value as long as it's a hit.

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9428126)
I just can't look at it that way. If I'm looking for a leader for my franchise and understanding this is a do or die decision, I'm not clearance rack shopping it.

I work on determining the one player I want for my team than determining what pick I'll need to invest to get them after that. Could give a **** less about the value as long as it's a hit.


I agree, if the Chiefs determine Geno is that guy. If they see little difference in Geno and say, Tyler Wilson or another QB, it may be wiser to take another position at 1 and get your QB at 34. Improving your TEAM overall.

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 11:48 AM

You're looking at this like you're trying to squeeze out the best team rating in Madden. Investing in a franchise QB is a big thing and I wouldn't even consider "well this dude is only x amount of lesser quality than hoss y."

You identify the best possible solution, what it will take to make it a thing and well make it a thing. Yeah the rookie contract risk is not nearly as severe, but there's still a lot at stake with who they pick.

RyFo18 02-23-2013 11:49 AM

**** Pete Prisco

htismaqe 02-23-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428100)
Im just not convinced that Geno is that much better than the other QBs, which according to this mock, could be had in the second.

According to this mock, Geno IS that much better than the other QBs or they would have gone in the 1st round.

BryanBusby 02-23-2013 11:51 AM

I can flip your logic around because this draft is actually pretty quality for Defensive Line and why feel the rush to draft a DL at 1 when you can get a pretty good one at 34 and a better QB at one than you could get at 34? I'd place quarterback at higher importance.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428135)
I agree, if the Chiefs determine Geno is that guy. If they see little difference in Geno and say, Tyler Wilson or another QB, it may be wiser to take another position at 1 and get your QB at 34. Improving your TEAM overall.

If teams see little difference between Geno and Wilson, and the Chiefs pick Geno #1, Wilson will go in the TOP TEN, not the 2nd round.

And improving the TEAM is overrated. QB is more important than the other 21 positions combined anymore.

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 11:57 AM

“There will be somebody at that position that goes in the second, third, fourth round and he works out,” Reid said. “We just have to go through that and evaluate it and that takes time.

This quote from Reid, I believe, suggests a QB in the second or beyond and not the first.

I have wanted the Chiefs to take a first round QB for most of my life, just not convinced this is the year.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428203)
“There will be somebody at that position that goes in the second, third, fourth round and he works out,” Reid said. “We just have to go through that and evaluate it and that takes time.

This quote from Reid, I believe, suggests a QB in the second or beyond and not the first.

I have wanted the Chiefs to take a first round QB for most of my life, just not convinced this is the year.

If this isn't the year, "the year" will never come.

chiefforlife 02-23-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9428220)
If this isn't the year, "the year" will never come.

Thats a bit dramatic, dont you think?

Bewbies 02-23-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428236)
Thats a bit dramatic, dont you think?

When is the last time the #1 pick wasn't a QB and worked out? Meaning led to more wins, playoff wins, coaches and GM wasn't fired a couple years later?

htismaqe 02-23-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428236)
Thats a bit dramatic, dont you think?

We haven't won a playoff game in 2 decades.

No, I don't think it's a bit dramatic.

melbar 02-23-2013 05:05 PM

The big question is how does Reid see these guys? If he thinks Wilson or anyone else fits what he wants to do better or equally, he may wait and move up. If Geno impresses him and he thinks he's THE guy We should take him with the #1 no question.

AustinChief 02-23-2013 05:25 PM

Vaccaro at #21 is a steal.

Sorter 02-23-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9429170)
Vaccaro at #21 is a steal.

Definitely

htismaqe 02-23-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 9429109)
The big question is how does Reid see these guys? If he thinks Wilson or anyone else fits what he wants to do better or equally, he may wait and move up. If Geno impresses him and he thinks he's THE guy We should take him with the #1 no question.

If he thinks Wilson is a better fit than Geno, he needs to take him 1-1.

**** value, trading around is how you end up stuck with Nassib or Dysert because somebody took Wilson before you could get to him.

melbar 02-23-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9429820)
If he thinks Wilson is a better fit than Geno, he needs to take him 1-1.

**** value, trading around is how you end up stuck with Nassib or Dysert because somebody took Wilson before you could get to him.

I get that. I think too often you can get "cute" guessing where someone will get drafted so you can get a little more. That's why I thought we should have "reached" for Russell last year. But yes, if you think you see he fits what you want, then go get him!

Hammock Parties 02-23-2013 10:55 PM

**** yeah. Another one biets teh dsust...

WildTurkey 02-23-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9428337)
When is the last time the #1 pick wasn't a QB and worked out? Meaning led to more wins, playoff wins, coaches and GM wasn't fired a couple years later?

Orlando Pace in 1997.. But even that's debatable.. As the Rams lucked into Kurt Warner

KCDC 02-23-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428236)
Thats a bit dramatic, dont you think?

When was the last time we had the #1 pick? Never. When will we get it again? Hopefully, never. We can have the best QB in the draft without trading away our future to move up. It really is now or never. I would have preferred Luck or RGIII, but I'll take Geno.

Chris Meck 02-24-2013 12:26 AM

I believe the owner of the Bills has publicly stated that they're getting a QB. I figure any mock that has the Bills taking anything but is probably wrong. This one has all the other top guys still in play, and no QB.

DaneMcCloud 02-24-2013 12:47 AM

I somewhat like Prisco (we've had some Twitter interaction that was cool) but this is the laziest mock of all time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2013 02:11 AM

I'm a firm believer that you should never trade down in the draft unless you are getting future #1s to do it, and I'd almost never trade down if I had a top 10 pick.

The Patriots probably have another SB if they just stay put and take Clay Matthews.

In the NFL, three dimes is worth less than a quarter because of the space occupied by the dimes.

RealSNR 02-24-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9428100)
Im just not convinced that Geno is that much better than the other QBs, which according to this mock, could be had in the second.

But he is.

So go get him if he's the best

DTLB58 02-24-2013 02:34 AM

But, Nobody took Te'O in the 1st Rd? Shocking!

milkman 02-24-2013 07:24 AM

I don't care how shallow this QB class is viewed, there's no way the Cards, Browns, Bills, :ets all pass on QB.

Dave Lane 02-24-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9430633)
When was the last time we had the #1 pick? Never. When will we get it again? Hopefully, never. We can have the best QB in the draft without trading away our future to move up. It really is now or never. I would have preferred Luck or RGIII, but I'll take Geno.

Totally this. **** getting another 3rd rounder and missing out on the best QB we can get. Not only no **** no!


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