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alnorth 06-26-2013 07:16 AM

SCOTUS Gay Marriage Opinions
 
DOMA - Federal law which allows one state to refuse to recognize a marriage from another state, and which federally bans gay marriage.

Section 3 of DOMA is unconstitutional. The rest of DOMA still remains. This means that federal law must recognize same-sex marriage, but since Section 2 remains standing, states are still free to refuse to recognize a marriage from another state. That will likely be challenged in a future court case.

5-4 decision, Kennedy and the 4 liberals. The conservatives are split with 3 dissents.


Prop 8 - California Gay Marriage ban.

The 9th circuit appeal is dismissed due to lack of standing. We now know definitively that if the state government refuses to defend a state proposition, the prop sponsers can still go to court, but they can not appeal if they lose. The decision by the 9th circuit is also gone. Judge Vaughn Walker's ruling stands, and is final. Gay Marriage is legal in CA.

5-4 decision, Roberts, Scalia, and 3 of the liberals. Kennedy, Alito, Thomas, and Sotomayor would have found standing and proceeded to the merits. The question on whether a fundamental right to gay marriage exists countrywide will have to wait for another day.

memyselfI 06-26-2013 07:51 AM

Hopeful that the Supreme Court will make the right decisions and allow gays to marry. That decision along with Exodus International's implosion will have made tremendous strides in removing some of the discrimination and, hopefully bigotry, gays face.

DaveNull 06-26-2013 07:52 AM

RBG can do 20 real push-ups. Impressive for someone that's 120 years old.

DaveNull 06-26-2013 07:55 AM

Three boxes...wonder how many other cases are being announced today.

This is one where everyone will have a concurrence or a dissent.

King_Chief_Fan 06-26-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 9776281)
Hopeful that the Supreme Court will make the right decisions and allow gays to marry. That decision along with Exodus International's implosion will have made tremendous strides in removing some of the discrimination and, hopefully bigotry, gays face.

not everyone feels the same way and it is your opinion that it is the right decision

DaveNull 06-26-2013 08:02 AM

DOMA goes down.

memyselfI 06-26-2013 08:05 AM

DOMA done!!!

Good one. Very happy about this close vote. Hoping the next one goes the same way.

memyselfI 06-26-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9776301)
not everyone feels the same way and it is your opinion that it is the right decision

Not everyone felt that it was legal or 'right' for mixed races to marry either. Times change, people change. You don't have to like it.

DaveNull 06-26-2013 08:06 AM

Link to the DOMA opinion.

DaveNull 06-26-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and to injure those whom the State, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity. By seeking to displace this protection and treating those persons as living in marriages less respected than others, the federal statute is in violation of the Fifth Amendment.
Good stuff here.

Prison Bitch 06-26-2013 08:14 AM

Lemme guess how the 4 flea bags on the Left side of the court will vote. Gee, I wonder how they'll lean? Any ideas?

DaveNull 06-26-2013 08:18 AM

how about you read what was already posted, you insufferable ignoramus.

Prison Bitch 06-26-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 9776356)
how about you read what was already posted, you insufferable ignoramus.

AHAHAHAAH!


Awesome! The 4 pieces of shit held together again, like a hive that cannot break free from their pit. They embarrass themsevles yet again, but more than that they've made a mockery of the SCOTUS. For the flea bags there is no law - there is only ideology.

Garcia Bronco 06-26-2013 08:26 AM

Lol...because of tax credits. Typical court split with Kennedy being Kennedy.

Prison Bitch 06-26-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9776377)
Lol...because of tax credits. Typical court split with Kennedy being Kennedy.

Not really, the conservatives do occassionally side with the Liberals.


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