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HonestChieffan 04-23-2013 12:44 PM

Daylight Savings Time NOT under assault in Mo
 
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...it/HB0340C.htm

Why.


FIRST REGULAR SESSION

HOUSE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR

HOUSE BILL NO. 340

97TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY

1224H.04C D. ADAM CRUMBLISS, Chief Clerk



AN ACT

To amend chapter 1, RSMo, by adding thereto one new section relating to daylight saving time elimination.



Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the state of Missouri, as follows:

Section A. Chapter 1, RSMo, is amended by adding thereto one new section, to be known as section 1.340, to read as follows:
1.340. 1. There is hereby established the “Daylight Saving as New Standard Time Pact” consisting of this state and any other state desiring to permanently change daylight saving time to a new standard time.
2. The state of Missouri hereby exempts all areas of the state from the daylight saving time provisions of 15 U.S.C. Section 260a.
3. In the year in which at least twenty states have passed legislation entering those states into the Daylight Saving as New Standard Time Pact, each state will switch clocks to daylight saving for the last time and daylight saving time will be eliminated. The time formerly known as daylight saving time will become standard time. After this time, Missouri and all other participating states will no longer observe daylight saving time.

Predarat 04-23-2013 12:56 PM

They have it all wrong, Daylight Savings time should be permanent, regular time is what should be eliminated.

Dr. Gigglepants 04-23-2013 12:57 PM

I believe that is the proposal
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seaofred 04-23-2013 12:58 PM

Good, get rid of it. It has outlived it's purpose.

Deberg_1990 04-23-2013 12:59 PM

But what about the little children in darkness?

wazu 04-23-2013 01:00 PM

Not under assault. Did you actually read what you posted?

HonestChieffan 04-23-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9617191)
Not under assault. Did you actually read what you posted?

After this time, Missouri and all other participating states will no longer observe daylight saving time


Unless I missed something...

DMAC 04-23-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 9617205)
After this time, Missouri and all other participating states will no longer observe daylight saving time


Unless I missed something...

Dude,

There is hereby established the “Daylight Saving as New Standard Time Pact” consisting of this state and any other state desiring to permanently change daylight saving time to a new standard time.

jiveturkey 04-23-2013 01:11 PM

I don't know of many people that like standard time.

Lock us into DST and leave it alone.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 9617205)
After this time, Missouri and all other participating states will no longer observe daylight saving time


Unless I missed something...

You missed lots of things.

Did you actually read it? Daylight savings time wins.

As well it should. Standard time eats bawls.

HonestChieffan 04-23-2013 01:13 PM

Oh OK. You got me. Damn. This is critical stuff right here.

OmahaChief 04-23-2013 01:13 PM

Daylight Saving Time not Savings Time

loochy 04-23-2013 01:14 PM

BAN ASSAULT TIME ZONES

tyton75 04-23-2013 01:16 PM

They don't have enough to do so they are trying to come up with ideas?

Predarat 04-23-2013 01:16 PM

Oh crap they are actually doing what I wanted, I read the title, not the article. I hearby launch the TLTR excuse button.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 9617227)
They don't have enough to do so they are trying to come up with ideas?

This will have more impact on your enjoyment of life than virtually anything the state government will do over the next decade.

This seems trivial, but seriously, this actually will impact me. So yeah, this is pretty damn important to a hell of a lot more people than just about anything else they have to do right now.

Mr. Laz 04-23-2013 01:18 PM

the time change is silly


just put in on one and leave it

DST preferably

Buck 04-23-2013 01:23 PM

Every state needs to do this. No more 5 pm sunsets!

cosmo20002 04-23-2013 01:25 PM

What the **** are we in right now? Just ****ing leave it there, goddammit. I'm ****ing sick of that clock changing shit, and that night we "lose" an hour sucks balls way more than the benefit of the night we gain one.

That would be pretty ****ed up for border cities like KC if one state changed and the other didn't though.

Frosty 04-23-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9617253)
Every state needs to do this. No more 5 pm sunsets!

Try 3 PM sunsets for us. :cuss: Through most of December and January, I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. :doh!:

CrazyPhuD 04-23-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9617184)
But what about the little children in darkness?

Give them rap whistles and they'll be fine!

journeyscarab 04-23-2013 01:31 PM

"Only the government would believe you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."

Frazod 04-23-2013 01:33 PM

**** daylight savings time. The spring switch ruins me for a week. 4321

Frosty 04-23-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9617266)
That would be pretty ****ed up for border cities like KC if one state changed and the other didn't though.

We went on a recent trip. Started in Pacific time. Drove east into Montana - Mountain time, clocks forward. Drove south into Utah - still MST, no change. Drove south into Arizona - MST but no DST, so clocks back an hour. Drove west into Nevada - PST with DST so no change. Drove straight north into Idaho - back to MST, so clocks forward an hour. Drove west and then straight north - stayed in MST most of the time until going back into PST when going into the panhandle of Idaho.

Between the jagged time zone line and AZ not doing DST, it gets confusing.

Donger 04-23-2013 01:38 PM

We should just get rid of the Earth's tilt, and this wouldn't be an issue.

DTLB58 04-23-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9617169)
They have it all wrong, Daylight Savings time should be permanent, regular time is what should be eliminated.

I think that's what it states.

warpaint* 04-23-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9617184)
But what about the little children in darkness?

mo's a concealed carry state so it's all good

Mr. Laz 04-23-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9617301)
**** daylight savings time. The spring switch ruins me for a week. 4321

key being the 'switch'

people will adapt ... just pick one time and leave it

hometeam 04-23-2013 01:51 PM

Daylight savings time is the bomb. 'regular' time is ****ing ass backwards.

Lets fix the shit once and for all.

Frazod 04-23-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9617327)
key being the 'switch'

people will adapt ... just pick one time and leave it

Whatever it is now, leave it that way. Don't give a shit if it's dark when I get up in the morning - who cares? But having it dark when you get home from work every day for months is depressing.

Donger 04-23-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9617358)
Whatever it is now, leave it that way. Don't give a shit if it's dark when I get up in the morning - who cares? But having it dark when you get home from work every day for months is depressing.

Are you aware of how the Earth's tilt and its orbit around the Sun affects sunrise and sunset times?

DMAC 04-23-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9617371)
Are you aware of how the Earth's tilt and its orbit around the Sun affects sunrise and sunset times?

What does that have to do with business hours?

Donger 04-23-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9617422)
What does that have to do with business hours?

Nothing.

Molitoth 04-23-2013 02:14 PM

You people are pansies. It's an hour 2 days of the year.

Try traveling over seas a couple times a week and then get back with me.

DMAC 04-23-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9617433)
Nothing.

Right, then.

Frazod 04-23-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9617371)
Are you aware of how the Earth's tilt and its orbit around the Sun affects sunrise and sunset times?

Got any other ****y nuggets of wisdom to share?

tooge 04-23-2013 02:18 PM

For those that didn't read it, basically, it is saying DST will be the only time we would adhere to, and it would be renamed Standard Time. That means it wouldn't get dark at 5:00 PM all throughout the winter. I'm all for this.

Donger 04-23-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9617446)
Got any other ****y nuggets of wisdom to share?

Probably.

tooge 04-23-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9617458)
Probably.

Do you like monkeys?

Nickel D 04-23-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9617470)
Do you like monkeys?

...in a flaming AIDS tree?

Bugeater 04-23-2013 04:24 PM

This needed to happen eleventy billion years ago.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9617434)
You people are pansies. It's an hour 2 days of the year.

Try traveling over seas a couple times a week and then get back with me.

No, it's the switching to a time scheme where it's dark at 4:30 in the afternoon during what is already the bleakest time of the damn year.

Who the **** actually enjoys that?

Bugeater 04-23-2013 04:28 PM

BUT OMG THE CHILDREN MIGHT HAVE TO STAND AT THE BUS STOPS IN THE DARK!

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

stonedstooge 04-23-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9618021)
BUT OMG THE CHILDREN MIGHT HAVE TO STAND AT THE BUS STOPS IN THE DARK!

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

I remember back in the mid 70's they did some changes to the time and had to sit through 1st hour in high school in the ****ing dark. Hated it cause I couldn't stay awake

chiefqueen 04-23-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9617253)
Every state needs to do this. No more 5 pm sunsets!

But are you ready for 9 am sunrises?

mikey23545 04-23-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9618021)
BUT OMG THE CHILDREN MIGHT HAVE TO STAND AT THE BUS STOPS IN THE DARK!

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

So change the time school starts twice a year instead of ****ing with the rest of humanity.

BlackHelicopters 04-23-2013 04:40 PM

The legislature needs more to do.

007 04-23-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9618038)
So change the time school starts twice a year instead of ****ing with the rest of humanity.

uhhhh, kind of defeats the purpose if everyone with kids has to adjust their schedule anyway

Mecca 04-23-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9618019)
No, it's the switching to a time scheme where it's dark at 4:30 in the afternoon during what is already the bleakest time of the damn year.

Who the **** actually enjoys that?

I enjoy it about as much as it being bright outside at 8 when it's 110 and blistering, that's just as bleak.

Anyong Bluth 04-23-2013 05:12 PM

Maybe the thing MO has ever proposed.

ekf028 04-23-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9617434)
You people are pansies. It's an hour 2 days of the year.

Try traveling over seas a couple times a week and then get back with me.

Not exactly normal...try working swing shifts where it affects you every time. 13 hour shift in the spring and losing an hour of sleep between 12 hour shifts in the fall.....sucks hugely :banghead:

Brock 04-23-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9618089)
I enjoy it about as much as it being bright outside at 8 when it's 110 and blistering, that's just as bleak.

110 and blistering at 8?

displacedinMN 04-23-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9617312)
We should just get rid of the Earth's tilt, and this wouldn't be an issue.

:thumb:

And the fact that the Earth is round. Really screws us up. How dare it rotates and makes 24 hours.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time...ime-zones.html



No matter if we use standard time or DST, there will be weird and unnatural sunrise and sunset times

Here, on June 21, sun comes up at 4:45 am, that would be 3:45 if we were at standard

on Dec 21, sun rises at 7:45 am- that would be 8:45 if we were on DST.

I do not see an advantage either way.


I have made some 8th grade honors students do a "what if" with the tilt.

We go in depth with seasons, tilt, sunrise, sunset, DST.

Then I make them explain the seasons, temps, climate, sunrise and sunset IF the Earth was not tilted 23.5 degrees.

They do well. Takes a lot of thought.

RedDread 04-23-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 9618151)
Maybe the thing MO has ever proposed.

I would the whole thing.

cosmo20002 04-23-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9618028)
I remember back in the mid 70's they did some changes to the time and had to sit through 1st hour in high school in the ****ing dark. Hated it cause I couldn't stay awake

What, was this in the 1870s? My high school had electrified lighting.

Dave Lane 04-23-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 9617216)
Oh OK. You got me. Damn. This is critical stuff right here.

Yep the sun will get pissed about what time it comes up.

Oh and HCF not read what he's railing against? Tell me it isn't so.

TimeForWasp 04-23-2013 09:23 PM

Winter if for hibernating anyway.


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