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Carlota69 02-07-2013 09:16 AM

Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal
 
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain




(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.

Chief_For_Life58 02-07-2013 09:19 AM

should I conceal to work today?

Buck 02-07-2013 09:20 AM

I saw an Amber Alert on the freeway this morning to call 911 if you saw a gray Nissan pickup. Wonder if its related...

CaliforniaChief 02-07-2013 09:24 AM

Yes, he is reportedly driving a Nissan Titan (gray, I think).

Chief_For_Life58 02-07-2013 09:27 AM

yeah it is I think I just heard that on the radio. cops found his badge down here and there was an attempted boat jacking in loma last night by him or some shit lol or I might of heard two different stories on the radio just a bit ago

CaliforniaChief 02-07-2013 09:29 AM

They might have to pull Jack Bauer out of retirement for this one. Check out this quote from the guy:

"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty."

InChiefsHeaven 02-07-2013 09:30 AM

Dude is huge. I doubt they'll have a problem of people approaching him, armed or not...

A Salt Weapon 02-07-2013 09:32 AM

"If we only had more gun control, this wouldn't happen" -cosmo
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loochy 02-07-2013 09:32 AM

Everyone is going crazy these days.

It must be the flu shots.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-07-2013 09:33 AM

Guns don't kill people.

Cops kill people.

A Salt Weapon 02-07-2013 09:33 AM

"This is Bush's fault" -direckshun
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Fritz88 02-07-2013 09:36 AM

WTF is going on?

Predarat 02-07-2013 09:36 AM

Disarm the police.

Chief_For_Life58 02-07-2013 09:40 AM

skippin work to go cop huntin'

mdchiefsfan 02-07-2013 09:46 AM

Sounds familiar
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RBWFAJXl85...nis_hopper.jpg

BigRock 02-07-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9384414)
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.

Isn't that the CSUF coach who got killed? This is the same guy? Jesus.

EDIT: he killed her because her dad was involved in the review process that got him fired. For ****'s sake.

Ace Gunner 02-07-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9384459)
"This is Bush's fault" -direckshun
Posted via Mobile Device

this is obama's fault /everyone else

loochy 02-07-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9384492)
this is obama's fault /everyone else

this is the particular crazy former LAPD officer's fault /me

WV 02-07-2013 10:05 AM

BAN ASSAULT COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

loochy 02-07-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 9384508)
BAN ASSAULT COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats the difference between a cop and an assault cop? Do assault cops wear black cargo pants?

WV 02-07-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9384509)
Whats the difference between a cop and an assault cop? Do assault cops wear black cargo pants?

Assault Cops look scary and carry high capacity "clips". :)

jjjayb 02-07-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9384509)
Whats the difference between a cop and an assault cop? Do assault cops wear black cargo pants?

Nothing fundamentally different. They just look different.

The Franchise 02-07-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9384427)
I saw an Amber Alert on the freeway this morning to call 911 if you saw a gray Nissan pickup. Wonder if its related...

I saw that shit up here in Nor-Cal as well.

ptlyon 02-07-2013 10:22 AM

A cop killing other cops?

THAT will get you thrown out of the brotherhood...

Chief3188 02-07-2013 10:29 AM

http://www.altfg.com/Stars/t/trainin...washington.jpg

King Kong ain't got shit on me

listopencil 02-07-2013 10:40 AM

This is exactly why we need gun control. Only people in the military or cops can be trusted to carry guns...oh, wait.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9384414)
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...USQ1i5PWoPNObQ

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384580)
This is exactly why we need gun control. Only people in the military or cops can be trusted to carry guns...oh, wait.

Is this guy a cop?

KChiefer 02-07-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384580)
This is exactly why we need gun control. Only people in the military or cops can be trusted to carry guns...oh, wait.

Except that he was a former cop, likely removed from duty for doing something that made him unfit to carry a gun.

listopencil 02-07-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384588)
Is this guy a cop?

No, and his ability to think rationally was magically removed when he took off his uniform. I'm sure he was perfectly sane up until that point.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384599)
No

k'thx

kcfanXIII 02-07-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384602)
k'thx

typical, ignore the rest of the post that makes the rest of his statement make sense....

listopencil 02-07-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384602)
k'thx

Maybe you should check out Dorner's history a little bit. But it's OK if you want to push your head back down into the sand. That's completely understandable. It's a scary world out there and you might not be able to handle it. Sleep tight, dear.

Rausch 02-07-2013 10:53 AM

Florida quickly becoming the new Cali.

Cali fights back...

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 9384614)
typical, ignore the rest of the post that makes the rest of his statement make sense....

typical, ignore that pointing out how using this occurrence doesn't fit his argument doesn't strengthen or weaken his argument....

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384616)
Maybe you should check out Dorner's history a little bit. But it's OK if you want to push your head back down into the sand. That's completely understandable. It's a scary world out there and you might not be able to handle it. Sleep tight, dear.

Listen, doll, you can have your viewpoint about gun control. I'm not arguing here one way or the other. All I'm pointing out is that your use of this to serve your gun control argument 100% flawed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384580)
This is exactly why we need gun control. Only people in the military or cops can be trusted to carry guns...oh, wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384588)
Is this guy a cop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384599)
No


listopencil 02-07-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384623)
typical, ignore that pointing out how using this occurrence doesn't fit his argument doesn't strengthen or weaken his argument....

"Dorner is said to have made a 2008 false statement about his training officer Sgt. Teresa Evans, alleging that during one call they made she kicked a schizophrenic with severe dementia per Fox News. That resulted in his Jan. 2, 2009 firing."

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384630)
"Dorner is said to have made a 2008 false statement about his training officer Sgt. Teresa Evans, alleging that during one call they made she kicked a schizophrenic with severe dementia per Fox News. That resulted in his Jan. 2, 2009 firing."

Your point? The dude was wack & got fired because of it.

listopencil 02-07-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384627)
Listen, doll, you can have your viewpoint about gun control. I'm not arguing here one way or the other. All I'm pointing out is that your use of this to serve your gun control argument 100% flawed.

...and you're 100% wrong. Dorner is reported as an ex-Navy reservist and LAPD officer. You know...the guys that are supposed to be armed when we're not allowed to?

listopencil 02-07-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384634)
Your point? The dude was wack & got fired because of it.


Sure. Because a cop would never kick someone who is in custody and poses no real threat...right?

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384638)
...and you're 100% wrong. Dorner is reported as an ex-Navy reservist and LAPD officer. You know...the guys that are supposed to be armed when we're not allowed to?

Maybe I'm mistaken. Did this individual go on a shooting rampage when he was in the Navy or employed by the LAPD?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-07-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9384459)
"This is Bush's fault" -direckshun
Posted via Mobile Device

Take this shit to DC you inveterate douche.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384644)
Sure. Because a cop would never kick someone who is in custody and poses no real threat...right?

Are you arguing that the guy is sane or not? Make up your mind.

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384646)
Maybe I'm mistaken. Did this individual go on a shooting rampage when he was in the Navy or employed by the LAPD?

Did he magically become a different person when he took off his uniform?

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384649)
Are you arguing that the guy is sane or not? Make up your mind.


Are you really that stupid?

Dayze 02-07-2013 11:02 AM

it just goes to show that it's not an issue of gun control, assualt weapons, or high capacity magazines.
any walk of life can go on a rampage if they wanted to.

why not be able to protect yourself against them.

bevischief 02-07-2013 11:02 AM

I wonder what meds he was on or stopped taking.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384654)
Did he magically become a different person when he took off his uniform?

I don't know, did he? Unless you can provide further evidence..

Killing rampages while in the Navy and LAPD: No
Killing rampages while ex-Navy and fired from LAPD: Yes

Rausch 02-07-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384656)
Are you really that stupid?

No, it's just hard for him to type while looking in 3 different mirrors...

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384656)
Are you really that stupid?

ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384580)
This is exactly why we need gun control. Only people in the military or cops can be trusted to carry guns...oh, wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384588)
Is this guy a cop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384599)
No


kcfanXIII 02-07-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384623)
typical, ignore that pointing out how using this occurrence doesn't fit his argument doesn't strengthen or weaken his argument....

see, one of the arguments gun grabbers have is that our police and military forces are the only ones that should have guns. this is an example of how a crazy person can still get a badge and carry a gun. its very relevant. sure he is no longer a cop, but at some point in time he was a cop, and my guess is he was just as bat shit crazy then.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9384665)
No, it's just hard for him to type while looking in 3 different mirrors...

Hey! Unless you count the reflections in the mirrors I'm only looking into 2. :harumph:

Just Passin' By 02-07-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384663)
I don't know, did he? Unless you can provide further evidence..

Killing rampages while in the Navy and LAPD: No
Killing rampages while ex-Navy and fired from LAPD: Yes

You're an idiot.

ptlyon 02-07-2013 11:05 AM

:popcorn:

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 9384668)
see, one of the arguments gun grabbers have is that our police and military forces are the only ones that should have guns. this is an example of how a crazy person can still get a badge and carry a gun. its very relevant. sure he is no longer a cop, but at some point in time he was a cop, and my guess is he was just as bat shit crazy then.

I'm not arguing for or against gun control here. All I'm pointing out is that saying "SEE! THIS IS WHY WE SHOULDN'T ONLY LET COPS CARRY GUNS!!!!!!" doesn't fit here since the guy who went on a rampage isn't a cop.

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384667)
ROFL

So...is it your belief that he was perfectly fine until he no longer wore a uniform of some kind? Wow, this whole thing could have been avoided if he'd just taken that job at the UPS.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-07-2013 11:09 AM

DaKCMan is pointing out a rather simple to understand logical syllogism. Said syllogism isn't about the merits of gun control, or lack thereof.

Pointing out fallacious reasoning does not mean you automatically oppose the opinions espoused by the person committing the fallacy.

Back to your regularly scheduled hysteria.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384679)
So...is it your belief that he was perfectly fine until he no longer wore a uniform of some kind? Wow, this whole thing could have been avoided if he'd just taken that job at the UPS.

I'm not claiming one way or the other. I'm pointing out that this guy isn't a cop and therefore doesn't support - in either direction - the gun control argument regarding cops & guns.

tooge 02-07-2013 11:11 AM

what the hell is an asymmetrical attack? There is only one of him. It has to be asymmetirical no? Not the brightest cop in the box

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384685)
I'm not claiming one way or the other. I'm pointing out that this guy isn't a cop and therefore doesn't support - in either direction - the gun control argument regarding cops & guns.


So do you think that most people who go on (apparently psychotic) killing sprees were perfectly sane up until they do so?

Imon Yourside 02-07-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384698)
So do you think that most people who go on (apparently psychotic) killing sprees were perfectly sane up until they do so?

I blame HAARP, flip a switch and he's completely bonkers.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384698)
So do you think that most people who go on (apparently psychotic) killing sprees were perfectly sane up until they do so?

How is that relevant?

KChiefer 02-07-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384698)
So do you think that most people who go on (apparently psychotic) killing sprees were perfectly sane up until they do so?

Do note that he's had a few years to bulk up his craziness as well as eat many krispy kremes. You must be making a case for stricter and frequent mental screenings for gun owners. :toast:

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384713)
How is that relevant?

Is it your belief that Dorner was perfectly sane until he was no longer a police officer?

Rausch 02-07-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384741)
Is it your belief that Dorner was perfectly sane until he was no longer a police officer?

I think it's so cute that you take the time...

Sorter 02-07-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9384711)
I blame HAARP, flip a switch and he's completely bonkers.

this

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9384715)
Do note that he's had a few years to bulk up his craziness as well as eat many krispy kremes. You must be making a case for stricter and frequent mental screenings for gun owners. :toast:

Well our mental health care system is pretty screwed in this country. The only problem I would have with mental health screenings for potential gun owners is that they might not be effective, or thorough, enough.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384741)
Is it your belief that Dorner was perfectly sane until he was no longer a police officer?

How is that relevant?

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9384745)
I think it's so cute that you take the time...

Hah. I've had too much coffee, and it's a rainy day in NorCal.

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384755)
How is that relevant?

Can you answer the question?

Imon Yourside 02-07-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9384750)
this

LMAO

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384762)
Can you answer the question?

The answer to that question is irrelevant to what I'm pointing out. As I've already stated, my intent is not to engage in gun control discourse - only to point out that your statement was, and is, fallacious.

Sorter 02-07-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384767)
The answer to that question is irrelevant to what I'm pointing out. As I've already stated, my intent is not to engage in gun control discourse - only to point out that your statement was, and is, fellatious.

Fixed

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384767)
The answer to that question is irrelevant to what I'm pointing out. As I've already stated, my intent is not to engage in gun control discourse - only to point out that your statement was, and is, fallacious.

So you can't answer the question? Yeah, I figured as much. You're still trying vainly to pretend that my statement has no merit when in fact it speaks to the heart of this entire discussion. As I said earlier, if you need to pretend that removing a uniform can magically turn a sane person into a crazy one then by all means continue on. Sweet dreams, dear.

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9384780)
Fixed

LMAO

DaKCMan AP 02-07-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9384782)
So you can't answer the question? Yeah, I figured as much. You're still trying vainly to pretend that my statement has no merit when in fact it speaks to the heart of this entire discussion. As I said earlier, if you need to pretend that removing a uniform can magically turn a sane person into a crazy one then by all means continue on. Sweet dreams, dear.

My answer has no bearing on the subject.

Your statement does have zero merit.

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:38 AM

Here's a link to his manifesto:

http://www.myfoxla.com/story/2101902...about-slayings

listopencil 02-07-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384791)
My answer disproves my point.


Therefore I won't answer.


FYP

ptlyon 02-07-2013 11:40 AM

Would you two quit your bickering? Youre going to wake the baby!!!

GoChargers 02-07-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9384676)
I'm not arguing for or against gun control here. All I'm pointing out is that saying "SEE! THIS IS WHY WE SHOULDN'T ONLY LET COPS CARRY GUNS!!!!!!" doesn't fit here since the guy who went on a rampage isn't a cop.

He WAS an armed cop, and was a crazed lunatic BEFORE he was kicked out of the LAPD. Ergo, gun control apparently doesn't keep guns out of crazy people's hands.


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