Yeah I just don't think beyond adding stress to his life that you can. In the end though, the mind is a crazy thing.

A win would be positive for the community and the players.

I absolutely despise Scott Pioli. The date of his impending dismissal will be forever etched in my mind like the birthday of a loved one, or the end of a war, etc.

That being said, a 25-yr. old man with presumably quite a bit to live for, got so mad because his girlfriend stayed out a bit too late with one of her friends after a concert that he killed the mother of his infant child and then blew his own brains out. This is just an "adult" who was either mentally ill or astonishingly immature dealing with something in a horrifically stupid, tragically short-sighted way.

Hard to pin that on Pioli. I'm pretty sure it's not something you see coming in a pre-draft interview.

I was not saying such either. I was saying that a normal everyday guy on the street could get fired and go in and shoot the place up and then take his own life. I don't think him being fired would be the ONLY reason he came back and shot up a building. More that goes on in a situation like that most times.

I am not calling it a work place shooting either..

NOTHING is going to be positive for the community and players at noon tomorrow.

If the shooting had happened Wednesday? Maybe.

But right before their pre-game walkthrough? Gimme a break. Playing a GAME right now is not galvanzing, uplifting, or positive.

Yeah I never thought you were. Or at least I don't think I did. I can't remember. Basically 3 threads on the same thing right now.

I don't blame the chiefs or Pioli..

I was just comparing it to an everyday guy that gets fired and then snaps and shoots up the building. I think in that case he snaps at being fired and shoots up the building. Alot of people say it is works fault.

I say no that was the trigger that caused it. If you go back and shoot up a building you have other issues going on in your life.

I guess that was my point.. sorry for the confusion if any

He didn't shoot up his "workplace".

He went to his workplace after shooting up his HOME.

htismage brought this up in the SOC thread...but it relates to this thread topic...

Is the whole Fire Pioli movement dead?

Arrowhead is even more cursed and haunted now...

No, I hope not. A player, a Chief murdered someone. Doesnt change a thing. Pioli, Crennel, and any other tie to NE need to be GONE. We were once a respected organization. Now our players are literally killing themselves and others. Sorry, but you as a leader are responsible for your "employees", Their actions and reputations. Pioli made a big deal about the "right 53" and Belcher was one of them.

Read my OP bud. I said if they have to play a win would be better than a loss...

For who?

I never said it was. My previous comments related to active shooter and suicide programs at work and in military.

For the community and the players. You think if they're forced to play, that getting their ass kicked is going to make them feel any better? They're athletes man, sadly for many of them that is the only identity they will ever know. It is how they define themselves. A win would help their psyche and the psyche of the community.