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Mr. Flopnuts 04-07-2013 10:05 AM

My final Geno thread before the draft
 
Simple question. Will you be upset if the Chiefs draft Geno Smith? If so, why?

Imon Yourside 04-07-2013 10:06 AM

I'll be upset if they DON'T draft teh Geno.

HoneyBadger 04-07-2013 10:06 AM

Who's Geno Smith?

Mr. Flopnuts 04-07-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9564042)
I'll be upset if they DON'T draft teh Geno.

That's my thought process. There are a ton of people who will be upset if we don't, how many will be upset if we do? I'm curious. And I'm getting ready for a day trip so I won't be able to see the results until this evening.

Ace Gunner 04-07-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9564043)
Who's Geno Smith?

he's the one pitching a shutout in this thread :D

Messier 04-07-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9564042)
I'll be upset if they DON'T draft teh Geno.

How upset? Oh shoot, they didn't draft the player I wanted, oh well upset? Or Reid and Dorsey are jokes, the sooner they're gone the better upset.

Fritz88 04-07-2013 10:11 AM

No I won't. But given all the indications by teams who need QBs, the bust factor is pretty likely.

I want EJ Manual.
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AdumbGuy 04-07-2013 10:18 AM

I've seen maybe two articles with anything tangible in them regarding his flaws (footwork issues?)

and 500 articles about how he can't be drafted 1st overall because it would hurt Mike Mayock/Andrew Luck/Alex Smith/insert douchebag here 's feelings.

What would there be to be mad about?

Coogs 04-07-2013 10:20 AM

I went with no... which comes as no surprise to many. All along I have said I would go after Alex Smith AND Geno Smith. From way back before we even picked up Alex in the trade. I suspect if we do draft Geno, the biggest uproar is going to come from the group that thinks we gave up too much for Alex.

Me? I could care less about the compensation given for Alex. If we come out of this draft with a franchise QB, anything else out of this draft is just icing on the cake.

DeezNutz 04-07-2013 10:21 AM

Yep. We need to give Alex Smith a chance. Plus, next year's QBs are better.

Mr. Laz 04-07-2013 10:21 AM

no, they would be 'taking a shot'

i'm ok with it

jd1020 04-07-2013 10:21 AM

There's a draft this year?

After trading for yet another backup QB to be the Chiefs starter I had almost forgotten about it.

OnTheWarpath15 04-07-2013 10:23 AM

How the **** could someone be upset taking a potential franchise QB - especially when there isn't much (if any) elite talent in the draft at other positions?

Old Dog 04-07-2013 10:23 AM

The only one I'll honestly be upset with is Joeckel. Even Fisher I can live with (though I won't be really happy with it)

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:23 AM

Screwed up my pick. No I won't be upset, I'll be thrilled.

It is a quarterback league, and Geno is the best quarterback to be drafted this year. Who knows when we'll ever be in a position like this again to be able to pick up a potential game changer at the position. So what if we signed Chase Daniel and traded for Alex Smith? I'd rather be stacked at quarterback than stacked at offensive tackle (or any other position for that matter).

Mr. Laz 04-07-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9564065)
How the **** could someone not think exactly like me.

fyp

jd1020 04-07-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564069)
Screwed up my pick. No I won't be upset, I'll be thrilled.

It is a quarterback league, and Geno is the best quarterback to be drafted this year. Who knows when we'll ever be in a position like this again to be able to pick up a potential game changer at the position. So what if we signed Chase Daniel and traded for Alex Smith? I'd rather be stacked at quarterback than stacked at offensive tackle (or any other position for that matter).

Doesn't that contradict itself?

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9564065)
How the **** could someone be upset taking a potential franchise QB - especially when there isn't much (if any) elite talent in the draft at other positions?

It really just boggles the mind. Just goes to show how many people hang their hats on the words of the ESPN talking heads.

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9564073)
Doesn't that contradict itself?

Heh, possibly. But considering the driftwood we've had at the position since the days of Trent Green, you COULD call that "stacked".

Messier 04-07-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564075)
It really just boggles the mind. Just goes to show how many people hang their hats on the words of the ESPN talking heads.

Who's calling Geno a no brainer, top ten pick? Everyone is saying he'll go top ten, but it's a reach.

jd1020 04-07-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564077)
Heh, possibly. But considering the driftwood we've had at the position since the days of Trent Green, you COULD call that "stacked".

Still trying to buy in to a $10,000 table with a $5 chip.

Cannibal 04-07-2013 10:30 AM

I'll only be upset if the take Luke Joeckel.

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564080)
Who's calling Geno a no brainer, top ten pick? Everyone is saying he'll go top ten, but it's a reach.

Define "everyone". Are these the same "everyones" that not two weeks ago were saying that Geno wouldn't even go in the first round?

Mr. Laz 04-07-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564080)
Who's calling Geno a no brainer, top ten pick? Everyone is saying he'll go top ten, but it's a reach.

if you are going to reach then you reach at the QB position.

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9564081)
Still trying to buy in to a $10,000 table with a $5 chip.

Sorry, don't follow. Was lazy and just woke up with no coffee yet.

Messier 04-07-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564088)
Define "everyone". Are these the same "everyones" that not two weeks ago were saying that Geno wouldn't even go in the first round?

I'm not talking about people guessing he'll go top ten, I guess he will too, I'm talking about people saying that's where he belongs.

Messier 04-07-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9564089)
if you are going to reach then you reach at the QB position.

I guess. Teams always do, and a lot of those teams are looking for another QB a few years later.

Dave Lane 04-07-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564060)
I went with no... which comes as no surprise to many. All along I have said I would go after Alex Smith AND Geno Smith. From way back before we even picked up Alex in the trade. I suspect if we do draft Geno, the biggest uproar is going to come from the group that thinks we gave up too much for Alex.

Me? I could care less about the compensation given for Alex. If we come out of this draft with a franchise QB, anything else out of this draft is just icing on the cake.

Amen!!

Dave Lane 04-07-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564098)
I guess. Teams always do, and a lot of those teams are looking for another LT a few years later.

FYP

jd1020 04-07-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564097)
I'm not talking about people guessing he'll go top ten, I guess he will too, I'm talking about people saying that's where he belongs.

Time to stop comparing this draft to previous drafts.

There's not a single elite prospect in this draft.

Geno is head and shoulders above the other QB prospects in the league and is no worse than the other top players are at their positions.

In this draft, he absolutely deserves to be a top 10 pick.

patteeu 04-07-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564088)
Define "everyone". Are these the same "everyones" that not two weeks ago were saying that Geno wouldn't even go in the first round?

Who were these people who said he wouldn't go in the first round? I know there have been 1 or 2, but everyone? Link?

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9564105)
Who were these people who said he wouldn't go in the first round? I know there have been 1 or 2, but everyone? Link?

That's what I'm trying to find out as well.

Messier 04-07-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9564102)
FYP

Yes, if you reach anywhere you're taking a risk.

patteeu 04-07-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564111)
That's what I'm trying to find out as well.

You're the one who brought it up as if it was a reality so I don't know what you're talking about.

Nightfyre 04-07-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564098)
I guess. Teams always do, and a lot of those teams are looking for another QB a few years later.

You mean teams keep reaching for QBs until they find a franchise QB? You don't say. I wonder what that means? Maybe that you will have to reach to obtain a franchise QB? Maybe that QB is the most important position on the field and that actually, you aren't "reaching"?

RedDread 04-07-2013 10:51 AM

Even if he's a total flop and we have to draft another QB in 2 years.

At
Least
We
Tried

Messier 04-07-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9564126)
You mean teams keep reaching for QBs until they find a franchise QB? You don't say. I wonder what that means? Maybe that you will have to reach to obtain a franchise QB? Maybe that QB is the most important position on the field and that actually, you aren't "reaching"?

Or you take one when you think you've found one.

Rasputin 04-07-2013 10:54 AM

I can only be happy if we draft Geno Smith. I could give a **** about Alex Smith or Joekel.

Messier 04-07-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9564133)
I can only be happy if we draft Geno Smith. I could give a **** about Alex Smith or Joekel.

But how upset will you be? This team is dead to me upset?

Bowser 04-07-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9564119)
You're the one who brought it up as if it was a reality so I don't know what you're talking about.

Ok

Red Brooklyn 04-07-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9564127)
Even if he's a total flop and we have to draft another QB in 2 years.

At
Least
We
Tried

This.

And like someone said earlier, if you're going to reach, reach for a QB. Especially one with Geno's potential.

I'll be thrilled if the Chiefs take him on draft day.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-07-2013 11:29 AM

He could be worse than Jon Baldwin, Tyson Jackson or Ryan Sims? Oh my the horror!

lewdog 04-07-2013 11:37 AM

So far, 5 idiots. I will keep updates on this line for all those here.

Rasputin 04-07-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564134)
But how upset will you be? This team is dead to me upset?

I won't be surprised if they don't take Geno Smith so I'm pissed enough as is. I will see just how mad I get after the draft. I still have some hope we draft Geno just not much.

Bowser 04-07-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9564206)
So far, 5 idiots. I will keep updates on this line for all those here.

Four idiots. I messed up my pick.

I'm sure there are those that would call me "idiot" regardless, though.

penbrook 04-07-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564111)
That's what I'm trying to find out as well.

Mel Kiper and La Canfora has Geno in the top 5 meanwhile Todd Mcshay has him completely out of the first round.

penbrook 04-07-2013 11:45 AM

On a side note FA Shaun Smith our nut graber said he wants to play for John Dorsey because you have to earn his respect and he didnt let his ego get in the way like Pioli did.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsBee...561984/photo/1

BigMeatballDave 04-07-2013 11:45 AM

I won't be upset if they don't, either. I've prepared myself for this already.

Bowser 04-07-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564230)
Mel Kiper and La Canfora has Geno in the top 5 meanwhile Todd Mcshay has him completely out of the first round.

Kiper was one of the guys I was talking about, as he thought Geno was a second round pick initially. Mayock was in that boat as well. I think LaConfora is one of the few that has had him in the top ten/five pretty much this entire offseason.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-07-2013 11:47 AM

Nope.

It would be great.

I just don't see us spending the 1.1 on a QB after what we invested in our starter and backup.

I think you need to start looking at the "second-tier" QB's in this draft and hope we find a diamond in the rough.

lewdog 04-07-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564224)
Four idiots. I messed up my pick.

I'm sure there are those that would call me "idiot" regardless, though.

You had three choices and you messed up your pick? ROFL

IDIOT!

Pasta Little Brioni 04-07-2013 11:50 AM

Yes/Lil Chiefy

patteeu 04-07-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564230)
Mel Kiper and La Canfora has Geno in the top 5 meanwhile Todd Mcshay has him completely out of the first round.

What do you mean by "has Geno/him"?

Bowser 04-07-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9564249)
You had three choices and you messed up your pick? ROFL

IDIOT!

It's like that old arcade game Dragon's Lair. You would come to a fork in the road and had to chose the right path, and the correct choice would blink rapidly for a second or two, but you'd still go the wrong way for some unkown reason.

It was like that.

penbrook 04-07-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9564276)
What do you mean by "has Geno/him"?

Geno = him

him = Savior of the Chiefs franchise.

Messier 04-07-2013 11:56 AM

Has him going, is different than has him rated.

Saccopoo 04-07-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9564235)
On a side note FA Shaun Smith our nut graber said he wants to play for John Dorsey because you have to earn his respect and he didnt let his ego get in the way like ***** did.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsBee...561984/photo/1

I'm pretty sure that this team was 2-14 because they had absolutely zero respect for Pissholi and didn't want to play for such a world class asshole.

You see it a lot in every business - very good workers who stop giving a shit because a total asshole reerun is put in charge that no one respects.

This team is going to be a whole lot better this next season.

patteeu 04-07-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9564238)
Kiper was one of the guys I was talking about, as he thought Geno was a second round pick initially. Mayock was in that boat as well. I think LaConfora is one of the few that has had him in the top ten/five pretty much this entire offseason.

Kiper's first mock that had Geno in the second round included the caveat that a lot of things could change since the Senior Bowl, the Combine, and the various workouts hadn't been held yet. His current view of Geno's worth hasn't changed much, but intervening events have led him to believe Geno will be "over-drafted" as high as top 5.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-07-2013 12:02 PM

Let's have a practice dance party! I mean BOOM!!!
RAC RAC RAC RAC

BlackHelicopters 04-07-2013 12:04 PM

Never heard of him, but no.

melbar 04-07-2013 12:11 PM

I think there are some questions, and it would be a bit of a reach, but if we draft him, I'll cheer my A-- for him till he stops wearing Red.

a pp roach 04-07-2013 12:27 PM

there's a reason alex smith was a backup last year.

it's because he needs a rookie qb to be a starter.

Chief Roundup 04-07-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9564127)
Even if he's a total flop and we have to draft another QB in 2 years.

At
Least
We
Tried

In 2 years he will just be getting his first chance to be a starter. Alex Smith has the reigns until then.

Mav 04-07-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a pp roach (Post 9564416)
there's a reason alex smith was a backup last year.

it's because he needs a rookie qb to be a starter.

because he got replaced by a better player, who happened to be the head coaches hand picked qb?

boogblaster 04-07-2013 01:05 PM

on the fence really .. would really like a better crop of QB talent than this years to pick from .....

R8RFAN 04-07-2013 01:07 PM

I will not be upset because then The Raiders and the Chiefs will have drafted a monumental bust in the last decade

lewdog 04-07-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9564666)
I will not be upset because then The Raiders and the Chiefs will have drafted a monumental bust in the last decade

I will buy you a Geno jersey with my credit card when the R8ers draft him.

hometeam 04-07-2013 01:20 PM

I wont be upset if we draft Geno, in fact I will be ecstatic.

I WILL be upset that we gave away draft picks for Alex Smith then drafted Geno anyway.

penbrook 04-07-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9564755)
I wont be upset if we draft Geno, in fact I will be ecstatic.

I WILL be upset that we gave away draft picks for Alex Smith then drafted Geno anyway.

Meh. Shit happens.

DTLB58 04-07-2013 01:26 PM

No. How can you be upset with a team for taking a chance at the chance for a franchise QB that we haven't had in 30 years?

I'm not convinced he is THE guy, but what do I know. Plus, I do agree this is what you spend the #1 overall pick on, a QB that is.

Coogs 04-07-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 9564639)
on the fence really .. would really like a better crop of QB talent than this years to pick from .....

When you have the overall #1 pick, you don't need a crop of QB talent. You just need one. When you are picking in the 20's is when a crop of QB talent would be nice.

penbrook 04-07-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9564792)
No. How can you be upset with a team for taking a chance at the chance for a franchise QB that we haven't had in 30 years?

I'm not convinced he is THE guy, but what do I know. Plus, I do agree this is what you spend the #1 overall pick on, a QB that is.

Qb yea. With Reids coaching ability of the qbs Geno should have no problem. Plus Geno breathes and sleeps football.

Coogs 04-07-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9564755)
I wont be upset if we draft Geno, in fact I will be ecstatic.

I WILL be upset that we gave away draft picks for Alex Smith then drafted Geno anyway.

This is what I was talking about earlier. To me, the draft picks for Alex is no big deal.

penbrook 04-07-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564821)
This is what I was talking about earlier. To me, the draft picks for Alex is no big deal.

I agree. If we had some holes than yea I would be pissed but we dont have any holes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-07-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9564131)
Or you take one when you think you've found one.

The Chiefs have proven track record of selling the farm to move up, so yeah, this is a GREAT strategy!

(sung in choir voices):

"faaaaaaaaaaaaaace
paaaaaaaaaaaaaaalm"
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-07-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9564256)
Yes/Lil Chiefy

Don't **** wit Lil Chiefy's shitloaf, boyeeeee!
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R8RFAN 04-07-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9564739)
I will buy you a Geno jersey with my credit card when the R8ers draft him.

I need to use mine.... I will have 3 total by the end of the week... :D

Messier 04-07-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9565077)
The Chiefs have proven track record of selling the farm to move up, so yeah, this is a GREAT strategy!

(sung in choir voices):

"faaaaaaaaaaaaaace
paaaaaaaaaaaaaaalm"
Posted via Mobile Device

The Chiefs have? What about Reid and Dorsey?

Rain Man 04-07-2013 03:00 PM

Upset? I'd be happy.

However, I bought my draft magazines last night and have been reading through them. One of them excoriates Geno and all of the other quarterbacks, and the other one lists him as our pick but predicts him to have a much lower ceiling than several other players, and says that the quarterback most like him in the NFL today is (wait for it) Alex Smith.

While it kills me to say it, I would not be upset if we drafted someone else if Geno is that much of a risk. I do wonder if there's some sort of media conspiracy to make the quarterbacks slip to the east coast teams, though.

OnTheWarpath15 04-07-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9564821)
This is what I was talking about earlier. To me, the draft picks for Alex is no big deal.

This.

I'm far from thrilled we spent another early R2 pick on a game manager, but I'm more concerned with the future of the QB position than the "right now."

If they feel its important to spend their first two picks on the right now and the future, I'm all for it.


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