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Sorter 01-29-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9362034)
If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.

The reason I really wanted Mercilus last year was that he provided flexibility and supreme depth. Additionally, with the way Tamba plays he's probably due for an injury or a very quick drop off IMO once he hits the wall.

If Rhodes, Rambo, and Banks had already been taken in addition to most of the usual 1st round projections, I'd consider moving up for him.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-29-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9338700)
3-4 DEs can be drafted late. Hell, you can find good ones as UDFA.

I know it's probably not a popular opinion but I'd be very interested in Montgomery or Okafor for round 2 if either come in around 270.

The Franchise 01-29-2013 02:53 PM

Look at that 2nd round. JFC....

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_2.php

htismaqe 01-29-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9362195)
I know it's probably not a popular opinion but I'd be very interested in Montgomery or Okafor for round 2 if either come in around 270.

Not sure I see Montgomery lasting that long.

Honestly, I care the most, BY FAR, about 1-1.

We need to take a QB. After that, I'm WIDE open and down for whatever.

The Bad Guy 01-29-2013 06:54 PM

Walter is full of shit about his high rate of success with Chiefs picks.

MagicHef 01-29-2013 07:20 PM

So... he has the Broncos taking Desmond Trufant in the first. Would trading for Revis take more than a #1 pick? If not, why not do that instead?

CoMoChief 01-29-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9334802)
Dorsey and Jackson will likely both be gone...Unless they are able towork something out with both of them...We need DL again.

ROFL dude lmao everytime at your sig

ForeverChiefs58 01-29-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9361704)
new one up today
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Scott ***** was fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, and he's been replaced by Andy Reid and his staff. The question is whether Reid will take a shot on a quarterback or go the safe route with Luke Joeckel.

Chris Mortensen said Monday that he expects Joeckel to be the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, but has a feeling that Reid will select a quarterback - which means he expects him to trade down. I agree with Mort. I'm not sure about the moving down part - Kansas City will sure as hell try - but here's why Geno Smith will be the pick, barring any big acquisition in free agency:

1. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, and if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Smith. Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

2. ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Matt Barkley or Mike Glennon. We'll see. Three months is a long time.

3. Think no one believes Smith is worth the No. 1 pick? Think again. Anthony Gargano of 94 WIP in Philadelphia revealed that he spoke to a general manager who told him that he would draft Smith with the first-overall selection. This is just one general manager, but if one GM wants Smith that badly, then there's a chance that several do. Smith has a ton of upside, so a quarterback-friendly coach like Reid might think he could coach him up to a Pro Bowl level.

4. My Chiefs' source, who has a high success rate of delivering Kansas City's first-round picks, told me Smith is currently the favorite to go No. 1 overall, but conceded that it's still too early in the process. He said that the combination of Joeckel and Tyler Wilson is also a strong possibility.

What bugs me when someone says "trade down and get a QB"

Jacksonville Jaguars #2
Oakland Raiders #3
Cleveland Browns #6
Arizona Cardinals #7
Buffalo Bills #8
New York Jets #9

All in the top 10 right behind us who could draft a QB if some dumbass team in front of them decides to pass on the biggest need in the NFL.

NJChiefsFan 01-29-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 9363337)
What bugs me when someone says "trade down and get a QB"

Jacksonville Jaguars #2
Oakland Raiders #3
Cleveland Browns #6
Arizona Cardinals #7
Buffalo Bills #8
New York Jets #9

All in the top 10 right behind us who could draft a QB if some dumbass team in front of them decides to pass on the biggest need in the NFL.

Well the premise that makes them say trade down in the first place is that they don't respect any of the QB options. Hell, by saying trade down they are looking at QB desperate team like KC and not giving them the QB at their spot. Not surprising they they expect QBs to slip by these other teams. They don't respect these prospects and they don't seem to get how much teams want QBs in a league that demands you have a QB.

RunKC 01-30-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9362034)
If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.

If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.

ForeverChiefs58 01-30-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9363762)
Well the premise that makes them say trade down in the first place is that they don't respect any of the QB options. Hell, by saying trade down they are looking at QB desperate team like KC and not giving them the QB at their spot. Not surprising they they expect QBs to slip by these other teams. They don't respect these prospects and they don't seem to get how much teams want QBs in a league that demands you have a QB.

No it's not even that, it's when they'll have teams right behind us draft a QB. They'll say Chiefs should trade down, with caption "because no QB is worth #1", then turn around and have a team right behind us in top 10 take a QB. An example is Ariz' caption "because they had the worst QB play and should fix QB problems"

It makes me say WTF? outloud.

BossChief 01-30-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 9363337)
What bugs me when someone says "trade down and get a QB"

Jacksonville Jaguars #2
Oakland Raiders #3
Cleveland Browns #6
Arizona Cardinals #7
Buffalo Bills #8
New York Jets #9

All in the top 10 right behind us who could draft a QB if some dumbass team in front of them decides to pass on the biggest need in the NFL.

I wouldn't rule the eagles out at 4, either.

Basically, 8 of the first 9 picks should be quarterback shopping.

ForeverChiefs58 01-30-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9364022)
I wouldn't rule the eagles out at 4, either.

Basically, 8 of the first 9 picks should be quarterback shopping.


Yeah, I've read a few places that think Chip Kelly will be looking for "his guy" to fit the style of offense he wants. Makes it even more crazy people talking a trade down.

Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in 1st in 30 years, and have never had the first pick. Gee, I wonder what's missing from this franchise?

One can only hope for all that is Holy we use it on Geno.

htismaqe 01-30-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 9364050)
Yeah, I've read a few places that think Chip Kelly will be looking for "his guy" to fit the style of offense he wants. Makes it even more crazy people talking a trade down.

Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in 1st in 30 years, and have never had the first pick. Gee, I wonder what's missing from this franchise?

One can only hope for all that is Holy we use it on Geno.

http://i.imgur.com/KrZEk.gif

htismaqe 01-30-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9363813)
If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.

TOTALLY AGREE. 110%


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