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patteeu 04-20-2018 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13524355)
Well, I guess it's time to start thinking about this.

My picks to start out:
2.054
3.086
4.122
5.159 (I did not trade to CLE for Cam Erving)
6.196
6.209 (comp/Foles)
7.243 (f/TEN for David King)

I will accept the following trades KC made:
Alex Smith to Washington Redskins for 3.078 and CB Kendall Fuller
Marcus Peters and 6.209 to Los Angeles Rams for 4.124 and 2019 2nd round pick

I will then take a huge gamble, hoping the guy I really want falls, and make a pre-draft trade up with the New England Patriots as follows:
2.054, 3.078, and 4.124 (608 points) to New England for 2.043, 3.095, 6.198, and 7.219 (606 points)

This gives me the following picks:

2.043 (f/SF via NE)
3.086
3.095 (f/NE)
4.122
5.159
6.196
6.198 (f/LAR via NE)
7.219 (f/CLE via NE)
7.243 (f/TEN)

I wouldn't normally consider making a pre-draft trade like this, but getting full value makes it a chance worth taking because I won't get to round 1 in a post-draft trade unless I give up 2.054, 3.078, and 3.086, which simply isn't happening. A post-draft trade of 2.054 and 3.078 would only get me to 43 with a 7th thrown in anyhow. I'm banking a guy falls that I really like, but that guy getting by CLE and IND is a huge risk.

Who is the guy you’re targeting? I won’t tell CLE or IND.

chiefscafan 04-20-2018 01:51 PM

LA Cobras draft picks

2:52

3:86

4:122

5:159

6:196

6:209

7:233

7:240

7:243

Ok so I never traded for cam Erving so I still have fifth

Never traded for Ackerman so I have seventh round pick

Never drafted Marcus peters so I never received fourth or lost comp sixth

Did have nick Foles, cooper and king on team so all those picks are set

Never traded for Alex Smith so don’t receive third and Kendall

kccrow 04-20-2018 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13524403)
Who is the guy you’re targeting? I won’t tell CLE or IND.

Well, here's my short list:

1. Isaiah Oliver
2. Carlton Davis
3. Frank Ragnow

patteeu 04-20-2018 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13525620)
Well, here's my short list:

1. Isaiah Oliver
2. Carlton Davis
3. Frank Ragnow

:thumb:

kccrow 04-21-2018 01:04 PM

Rain Man, can you go over this list and check it for accuracy? Just trying to assemble a list for everyone to make their decisions off of this year.

Chiefs Cuts
ILB Derrick Johnson
OLB Tamba Hali
DB Ron Parker
DB Darrelle Revis

Chiefs Traded
DB Marcus Peters (to LAR w/6-209 for 4-124 + 2019-2nd)
QB Alex Smith (to WAS for 3-78 + CB Kendall Fuller)

Automatic FA Loss (if on roster)
WR Albert Wilson (MIA)
DB Kenneth Acker (IND)
DB Phillip Gaines (BUF)
DL Bennie Logan (TEN)
OL Zach Fulton (HOU)
QB Tyler Bray (CHI)
ILB Kevin Pierre-Louis (NYJ)
CB Terrance Mitchell (CLE)
ILB Ramik Wilson (LAR)

Additions since roster set 2017

Major Additions
WR Sammy Watkins
DL Xavier Williams
K Harrison Butker
DB David Amerson
ILB Anthony Hitchens
QB Chad Henne

Minor Additions
QB Matt McGloin
RB Damien Williams
RB Kerwynn Williams
RB Akeem Hunt
WR Nelson Spruce
WR Daniel Braverman
WR Gehrig Dieter
WR Marcus Kemp
WR Brandon Shippen
TE Jace Amaro
TE Orson Charles
TE Anthony Firkser
TE Tim Wright
OL Jordan Devey
OL Dillon Gordon
OL Kaleb Johnson
OL Andrew Wylie
DB Devin Chappell
DB Makinton Dorleant
DB Prince Charles Iworah
DB Ashton Lampkin
DB Jordan Sterns
DB Robert Golden
DB Sheldon Price
DB Keith Reaser
DB Will Redmond
DL Josh Agusta
DL Stefan Charles
DL Justin Hamilton
DL T.Y. McGill
DL Mike Purcell
LB Tyrone Holmes

Rain Man 04-24-2018 10:27 AM

Thanks for doing that! It looks great.

I was trying to figure out the draft picks for everyone, and I think this list is right. Let me know if I missed anything.

Your draft picks:

Round 1, Pick 22 if you didn't trade for Patrick Mahomes (i.e., he was not on your roster last year)
Round 2, pick 54
Round 3, pick 78 (if Alex Smith was on your roster last season and you accept the trade of Alex Smith to the Washington Redskins)
Round 3, pick 86
Round 4, pick 122
Round 4, pick 124 (if Marcus Peters is on your roster and you accept the trade of Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams)
Round 5, Pick 159 if you didn't trade for Cam Erving (i.e., he wasn't on your roster last year)
Round 6, pick 196 (compensatory pick)
Get Round 7, Pick 233 if you traded Marcus Cooper off of your roster in 2016
Give up round 7, pick 240 if you want Kenneth Acker on your roster this year.
Get Round 7, Pick 243 if you traded David King last season (i.e., he wasn't on your roster in 2017).

If you're a new player, you can just have the Cooper and King picks if you didn't have your team in time to make those decisions.

chiefscafan 04-24-2018 10:42 AM

Man so with uncertainty of kam chancellor I guess I have to look at safety at some points my in draft. Such a bummer because he’s one of my best draft picks off of this.

The Franchise 04-24-2018 12:24 PM

Woof....my team is rough.

I'm accepting the Smith and Peters deal. Didn't have Cooper or King. And I traded for Cam Erving.


Draft Picks

Round 2, pick 54
Round 3, pick 78
Round 3, pick 86
Round 4, pick 122
Round 4, pick 124
Round 6, pick 196
round 7, pick 240

Pre Draft Roster

Offense

QB
Pat Mahomes II
Chad Henne

RB
Spencer Ware
C.J. Spiller
Charcandrick West
Marlon Mack
Damien Williams
Kerwynn Williams

FB
Anthony Sherman

WR
Sammy Watkins
Chris Conley
De'Anthony Thomas
Seantavius Jones
Jehu Chesson
Marcus Kemp
Gehrig Dieter

TE
Travis Kelce
Demetrius Harris
Jace Amaro
Tim Wright

OT
Eric Fisher
Mitchell Schwartz
Kyle Murphy


OG
LDT
Christian Westerman
Cameron Erving

OC
Mitch Morse

Defense

DE
Allen Bailey
Rakeem Nunez-Rochez
Jarvis Jenkins

NT
Xavier Williams
Andrew Billings

OLB
Justin Houston
Tanoh Kpassagnon
Dee Ford
Keion Adams

ILB
Myles Jack
Reggie Ragland
Anthony Hitchens
Ukeme Eligwe

CB
Kendall Fuller
David Amerson
Steven Nelson
Ashton Lampkin
Keith Reaser

S
Eric Berry
K.J. Dillon
Daniel Sorensen
Robert Golden

Specialists (3)

K
Harrison Butker

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
James Winchester

Rain Man 04-25-2018 04:50 AM

I'm leaning toward a trade down, but one of the discounted ones after I see where guys land. The mock drafts aren't shaking out the way I want, and if they're generally reliable there'll be several Round 2 guys that I like as much as the Round 1 guys. Might as well trade down and get an extra pick.

kccrow 04-25-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13529120)
Thanks for doing that! It looks great.

I was trying to figure out the draft picks for everyone, and I think this list is right. Let me know if I missed anything.

Your draft picks:

Round 1, Pick 22 if you didn't trade for Patrick Mahomes (i.e., he was not on your roster last year)
Round 2, pick 54
Round 3, pick 78 (if Alex Smith was on your roster last season and you accept the trade of Alex Smith to the Washington Redskins)
Round 3, pick 86
Round 4, pick 122
Round 4, pick 124 (if Marcus Peters is on your roster and you accept the trade of Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams)
Round 5, Pick 159 if you didn't trade for Cam Erving (i.e., he wasn't on your roster last year)
Round 6, pick 196 (compensatory pick)
Get Round 7, Pick 233 if you traded Marcus Cooper off of your roster in 2016
Give up round 7, pick 240 if you want Kenneth Acker on your roster this year.
Get Round 7, Pick 243 if you traded David King last season (i.e., he wasn't on your roster in 2017).

If you're a new player, you can just have the Cooper and King picks if you didn't have your team in time to make those decisions.

196 is our original 6th
They'd get the 6th round comp for Foles at 209 if they don't or can't trade Marcus Peters.
The remainder looks correct.

Rain Man 04-26-2018 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13531269)
196 is our original 6th
They'd get the 6th round comp for Foles at 209 if they don't or can't trade Marcus Peters.
The remainder looks correct.

Ah, okay. I was having a bit of trouble discerning the history of those 6ths.

kccrow 04-27-2018 12:32 PM

The way day 1 of the draft fell, I feel pretty good about that trade up at the moment because I think I'll have a damned good player there at 43. I'd still be on the fence sitting at 54. Hmmm. Time will tell if it was a good idea or not.

kccrow 04-27-2018 07:14 PM

Hmm I might feel a bit like an idiot for making that trade now... ****

Rain Man 04-28-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13535829)
Hmm I might feel a bit like an idiot for making that trade now... ****

You swung and missed. But at least you'll still get your man.

I'm a bit flummoxed. The draft has gone very differently than I expected, so my scenario building has all been destroyed. I was pretty sure that I would trade down at the discounted level, but now I'm not sure. I might stand pat. I'll probably put up my draft in the next couple of days.

The Franchise 04-28-2018 10:39 AM

I don’t think I’ll be taking any of the players that the Chiefs picked so far.


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