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chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253972)
I sincerely doubt Clark Hunt allows Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels.

He was caught cheating multiple times.

This team defies logic. If its pioli, it's ferentz, mcdaniels, mangini, or a long shot at bill o'brien. **** this team.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254023)
Pioli had one of his guys tell the "leader" of the SOC movement he was being fired to calm the fan storm?


Thats ****ing genious and I'm halfway hoping it happened.

That's ****ing evil. Of BOTH Pioli and YOU.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:36 PM

Pioli will absolutely only hire someone from the Tree. No one else is coming here.


Shit, it might be Daboll as the HC next year.

bowener 12-30-2012 05:37 PM

Well Reid is officially fired.
link

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254017)
Hunt hired Pioli to head up the FOOTBALL side of the business but reportedly is reluctant to fire him because he's cut OPERATING EXPENSES on the BUSINESS SIDE of the operation.

If Clark is letting him come back after EVERYTHING at has happened, he's gonna let Pioli hire whoever the **** he wants.

Exactly. Keep mark Donovan. Hire a new gm who can not only keep the cap low, but also realizes you can bring in revenue by getting fans to love the team.

This really isn't rocket science. I don't know how a guy can save the team money when even ina winning season, he has no concept of marketing a team to be likeable.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254041)
Pioli will absolutely only hire someone from the Tree. No one else is coming here.


Shit, it might be Daboll as the HC next year.

Todd Bowles as dc. Because... You know. Terrific job he did in Philly.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254017)
Hunt hired Pioli to head up the FOOTBALL side of the business but reportedly is reluctant to fire him because he's cut OPERATING EXPENSES on the BUSINESS SIDE of the operation.

If Clark is letting him come back after EVERYTHING at has happened, he's gonna let Pioli hire whoever the **** he wants.

That stuff is Mark Donovan.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254038)
That's ****ing evil. Of BOTH Pioli and YOU.

If it were true, would you be surprised?



Oh nevermind, Laz said this stuff never happens.

ILChief 12-30-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9254029)
This team defies logic. If its pioli, it's ferentz, mcdaniels, mangini, or a long shot at bill o'brien. **** this team.

Won't be mangini. There's bad blood over spy gate

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:41 PM

So... Back to what I proposed. If it starts looking like pioli is staying or no word of him being fired, should SOC send a message to convince fans to send at least me letter?

Together is powerful. Hunt wouldn't read any, but the message would be sent.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:44 PM

The fans absolutely showed that they wanted Pioli gone this year, and it's looking like it didn't matter.


Letters don't matter either.


Unless we are sending him 100 bricks of pure gold, it doesn't ****ing matter.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254110)
The fans absolutely showed that they wanted Pioli gone this year, and it's looking like it didn't matter.


Letters don't matter either.


Unless we are sending him 100 bricks of pure gold, it doesn't ****ing matter.

I think 10,000 letters sends a pretty clear message.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:45 PM

Bob Fescoe‏@bobfescoe

I hope Clark sees the excitement in the stadium today in Denver and realizes if he stays the course we won't have that in kc #chiefs

Fescoe gets it.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9254122)
I think 10,000 letters sends a pretty clear message.

Sure sends a message, but it won't matter.


Unless you are writing these letters on 100 dollar bills.

There is, or there shouldn't be ANY optimism left in Chiefs fans. The stink apperantly goes up to the owner, so there isn't any reason to give a damn.


They don't give a **** about winning, I don't give a **** about them.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9254065)
That stuff is Mark Donovan.

Have you been reading The Bad Guy's posts for the past month?

All of us ASSUME those things would fall under Donovan since, you know, it's his JOB.

But people that work at Arrowhead are saying its PIOLI, right down to conserving printer paper. That's why Hunt doesn't want to fire him. He has his hands in EVERYTHING.

Reaper16 12-30-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254023)
Pioli had one of his guys tell the "leader" of the SOC movement he was being fired to calm the fan storm?


Thats ****ing genious and I'm halfway hoping it happened.

Yes, that's one of two scenarios that make sense right now. I respect Pioli's inner Machiavelli.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254161)
Have you been reading The Bad Guy's posts for the past month?

All of us ASSUME those things would fall under Donovan since, you know, it's his JOB.

But people that work at Arrowhead are saying its PIOLI, right down to conserving printer paper. That's why Hunt doesn't want to fire him. He has his hands in EVERYTHING.

This.


Same reason a respectable HC won't come to KC. Shit, wouldn't be surprised to see Romeo back next year. He's about the only one left who will actually let the GM decide who plays and who doesn't

ILChief 12-30-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254161)
Have you been reading The Bad Guy's posts for the past month?

All of us ASSUME those things would fall under Donovan since, you know, it's his JOB.

But people that work at Arrowhead are saying its PIOLI, right down to conserving printer paper. That's why Hunt doesn't want to fire him. He has his hands in EVERYTHING.

I can't imagine printer paper $$$ compares to tickets, concessions, souvenirs, etc

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254148)
Sure sends a message, but it won't matter.


Unless you are writing these letters on 100 dollar bills.

There is, or there shouldn't be ANY optimism left in Chiefs fans. The stink apperantly goes up to the owner, so there isn't any reason to give a damn.


They don't give a **** about winning, I don't give a **** about them.

It worked for Andy dufresne.

Reaper16 12-30-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9254161)
Have you been reading The Bad Guy's posts for the past month?

All of us ASSUME those things would fall under Donovan since, you know, it's his JOB.

But people that work at Arrowhead are saying its PIOLI, right down to conserving printer paper. That's why Hunt doesn't want to fire him. He has his hands in EVERYTHING.

Royals fans know full well from David Glass' experiment running the Royals with ruthless, Wal-Mart like cost-cutting in the early 2000s that it doesn't translate to success on the field.

Indeed, if Pioli has his hands in everything then the results of the organization are all the more damning.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9254200)
I can't imagine printer paper $$$ compares to tickets, concessions, souvenirs, etc

And yet your beloved owner is about to make the decision that says it does.

ghak99 12-30-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9254084)
So... Back to what I proposed. If it starts looking like pioli is staying or no word of him being fired, should SOC send a message to convince fans to send at least me letter?

Together is powerful. Hunt wouldn't read any, but the message would be sent.

I would sign and mail a hilariously well written Fax piece if it contained an outstanding Chunt punt via Pioli's ineptitude.

If it's not some form of CP hilarity... Meh... We lost, **** it. Ghost town that bitch. I don't care anymore.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9254211)
It worked for Andy dufresne.

Well he also crawled thru 7 football fields full of shit, so start digging.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:56 PM

This franchise is apperantly AGAIN ripping the heart out of it's most hardcore fans. So **** em.


Here is waht I'm starting to hope happens. First, Pioli be kept and all his "goodness" kept around. Second, for all the morons not wanting to draft a QB early, the Chiefs not to pick Geno, him to go Oakland, become A Rodgers 2.0 and destroy the AFCW for 15 years, while these dipshit shitstains watch Teo get cornholed.


I've lost all faith and optimism, if Pioli is kept. Thats essentially Clark saying he doesn't care about results, so again, ****em.

fathead 12-30-2012 06:01 PM

I sure hope i havent been glued to this thread for all these weeks just be sad by pioli still being in kc tomorow

bowener 12-30-2012 06:02 PM

I am strongly considering mailing a box of human shit, candy wrappers, and some AOL discs to Clark if Pioli is retained in any form.

-King- 12-30-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254213)
And yet your beloved owner is about to make the decision that says it does.

ROFL Pull it back guy.

O.city 12-30-2012 06:04 PM

I don't understand how anyone can still be optimistic about this shit?


The infection has reached the brain, there's no turning back.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 06:07 PM

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htismaqe 12-30-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254357)
I don't understand how anyone can still be optimistic about this shit?


The infection has reached the brain, there's no turning back.

Optimistic? No.

It ain't over till the fat lady sings though...

O.city 12-30-2012 06:09 PM

If Pioli is fired tonight or tomorrow? Yeah great news.


But all roads are leading to an extension, so the fat lady is priming up her vocals.

YayMike 12-30-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9254390)

Today's crossword puzzle. 38-down: 5 letter word for failure. Hmm... PI__I. What the **** could it be?

O.city 12-30-2012 06:15 PM

Realize this, if you are keeping Pioli, its for reason not shown on the field of play or winning football games, the thing he was HIRED and PAID to do.


Herbie Teope‏@HerbieTeope

Chiefs finish 2-14 and are 9-23 in last two seasons. The ‘evaluation process’ now 23-41 since Scott Pioli arrived in 2009.

65TPT 12-30-2012 06:27 PM

We should rent two or 3 moving vans for the day tomorrow and park them next to Pioli's house. Then call the news stations and just say we saw the trucks there.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 06:31 PM

Pioli Doc updated again. Final time. Added another blowout loss today!

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...y9VyvIaW70EkLc

Quote:

1. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli: 23-42 (includes playoff loss).

This is the worst record for a GM in Chiefs history.
Jim Schaaf: .387 (1976-1988)
Scott Pioli: .353 (2009-2012)

2. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli against winning teams (9-7 or better): 3-18

2009: 1-6
2010: 1-3
2011: 1-3
2012: 0-6 (Falcons, Bengals, Broncos x2, Colts and Ravens all having winning records)

TOTAL: 3-18 (includes playoff loss to Ravens)

3. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli against playoff teams is 3-18

2009: 0-6
2010: 1-2 (includes playoff loss to Ravens)
2011: 2-4
2012: 0-6 (Falcons, Bengals, Broncos x2, Colts and Ravens are all playoff teams)

4. Chiefs have lost by 14 or more points under Scott Pioli 23 times in 65 games.

The Pioli regime, to date, features 65 games.

We have lost by 14 or more points in 23 of those games. That is 35.3 percent.

That means MORE than 1/3 of the time, Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams get their butts kicked.

Blowout losses (14+) by year

2009: 5
2010: 4
2011: 5
2012: 9 (with more to come, betcha betcha)


Pioliís Chiefs teams are 0-27 against teams that score more than 24 points.


O.city 12-30-2012 06:36 PM

PatriotsInsider‏@PatriotsInsider

Word on the street, former #Patriots GM Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel out in KC as #Chiefs fall 38-3 vs #Broncos

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 06:36 PM

@PatriotsInsider

Word on the street, former #Patriots GM Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel out in KC as #Chiefs fall 38-3 vs #Broncos

007 12-30-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254665)
PatriotsInsider‏@PatriotsInsider

Word on the street, former #Patriots GM Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel out in KC as #Chiefs fall 38-3 vs #Broncos

word on the street? JFC thats some real reporting there.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-30-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9254669)
@PatriotsInsider

Word on the street, former #Patriots GM Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel out in KC as #Chiefs fall 38-3 vs #Broncos

He's getting his info from Nick Athan

Reaper16 12-30-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254672)
Q dumbass

Testy much? It was a same-minute post.

SAUTO 12-30-2012 06:38 PM

@patsinsider doesn't even know Pioli wasn't the GM in new England?
Posted via Mobile Device

O.city 12-30-2012 06:38 PM

Sorry Clay for the dumbass, just kidding.


But you need to get some Gifs going incase Pioli is fired. Like some from LOTR when Frodo sees Gandalf in Rivendale at the end or when the Ring is destroyed?

SAUTO 12-30-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9254682)
Testy much? It was a same-minute post.

What the **** is it with twitter posters being bitches about it?
Posted via Mobile Device

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9254688)
Sorry Clay for the dumbass, just kidding.


But you need to get some Gifs going incase Pioli is fired. Like some from LOTR when Frodo sees Gandalf in Rivendale at the end or when the Ring is destroyed?

No ****ing shit, asshole? You think I'm not prepared for these things?

O.city 12-30-2012 06:42 PM

Just thinking out loud.


The Matrix when Neo explodes from the ground sending ripples would be good too.

Reaper16 12-30-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9254709)
No ****ing shit, asshole? You think I'm not prepared for these things?

This gave me a legit chuckle.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 06:56 PM

That NFL.com report is losing steam.

It was updated at 8am, 10am and 3pm (loose times). Article stated that Mike Florio said Pioli was staying. As of tonight, ProFootballTalk has Pioli back on the bubble.

Ian Rape-a-horse says Kirk Ferentz has no buyout (he does, the contract floated earlier today is an old version) and that coaches are calling around. Not 100% accurate. But Peter King has shot down the Ferentz to KC rumors.

I'm not adding anything of value of here but that damn report is breaking apart as this day gets longer.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 06:58 PM

Stupid.

fathead 12-30-2012 07:16 PM

Holding breath

Mother****erJones 12-30-2012 07:20 PM

I kept an open mind and tried to piece it all together. It all added up to Pioli being fired, thus leading to RAC gone and the whole staff

Chiefs=Champions 12-30-2012 07:21 PM

FUUUUUUCK dont want to leave keyboard.. If Pioli is fired Hunt will be showered with praise, if he is retained he will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore.

mnchiefsguy 12-30-2012 07:27 PM

Bill Williamson at ESPN thinks both RC and Pioli will be gone, although he barely mentioned it in his blog, he was too busy sucking off Peyton Manning.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest

Wish they would just announce it now...the season is done, need to get started on rebuilding this team for the future.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9254867)
That NFL.com report is losing steam.

It was updated at 8am, 10am and 3pm (loose times). Article stated that Mike Florio said Pioli was staying. As of tonight, ProFootballTalk has Pioli back on the bubble.

Ian Rape-a-horse says Kirk Ferentz has no buyout (he does, the contract floated earlier today is an old version) and that coaches are calling around. Not 100% accurate. But Peter King has shot down the Ferentz to KC rumors.

I'm not adding anything of value of here but that damn report is breaking apart as this day gets longer.

Ferentz' buyout is north of $20M I am being told. I am also being told there is no way in hell the KC thing happens...

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9254676)
word on the street? JFC thats some real reporting there.

It came from the same 22 guys off the street that Haley said he could win 2 games with.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9254867)
That NFL.com report is losing steam.

It was updated at 8am, 10am and 3pm (loose times). Article stated that Mike Florio said Pioli was staying. As of tonight, ProFootballTalk has Pioli back on the bubble.

Ian Rape-a-horse says Kirk Ferentz has no buyout (he does, the contract floated earlier today is an old version) and that coaches are calling around. Not 100% accurate. But Peter King has shot down the Ferentz to KC rumors.

I'm not adding anything of value of here but that damn report is breaking apart as this day gets longer.

Also, I am convinced King talked with Pioli directly.

Easy 6 12-30-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 9255006)
FUUUUUUCK dont want to leave keyboard...

That sums up my feelings for this entire night, i want to hash this all out on the planet BAD tonight... but wanna go home to watch boys-was, where my computer is down and not coming out of the shop til tomorrow.

Ma wants the couch, i wanna go home... I'LL MISS YOU, GUIS!

BryanBusby 12-30-2012 08:09 PM

As stupid as this franchise is, I just can't see Pioli keeping his job after tomorrow.

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9254867)
That NFL.com report is losing steam.

It was updated at 8am, 10am and 3pm (loose times). Article stated that Mike Florio said Pioli was staying. As of tonight, ProFootballTalk has Pioli back on the bubble.

Ian Rape-a-horse says Kirk Ferentz has no buyout (he does, the contract floated earlier today is an old version) and that coaches are calling around. Not 100% accurate. But Peter King has shot down the Ferentz to KC rumors.

I'm not adding anything of value of here but that damn report is breaking apart as this day gets longer.

Just heard something different that is really really pissing me off.

BS rumors don't have legs like this one.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-30-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255308)
Just heard something different that is really really pissing me off.

BS rumors don't have legs like this one.

What did you hear?

DeezNutz 12-30-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255308)
Just heard something different that is really really pissing me off.

BS rumors don't have legs like this one.

Come on, dude. Please don't make this kind of post unless you're going to provide at least a little more detail.

One can infer that you heard that Pioli is staying, but...

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9255314)
What did you hear?

Just another rumor. The dude has been right once and wrong twice so not a lot of faith in the info even from a BS rumor level.

Ebolapox 12-30-2012 08:17 PM

you gotta be part of the email club to get the info ;)

Mr_Tomahawk 12-30-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255326)
Just another rumor. The dude has been right once and wrong twice so not a lot of faith in the info even from a BS rumor level.

Not post-worthy....then why mention it?

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 08:18 PM

Like the Chiefs floating this out just get fan feedback?


Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255308)
Just heard something different that is really really pissing me off.

BS rumors don't have legs like this one.


DeezNutz 12-30-2012 08:19 PM

Are you serious? These ****ing idiots need fan feedback at this point?

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9255320)
Come on, dude. Please don't make this kind of post unless you're going to provide at least a little more detail.

One can infer that you heard that Pioli is staying, but...

As I said the dude's been wrong before, twice. I have no confidence in this rumor.

Pioli's meeting is real. The parameters are in place. It's a details and length meeting. Not a done deal, print em. But, there is a chance of a rehire.

All of this BS rumors could be Pioli plants or Chiefs seeing the reaction of the fan base and or my dude is just repeating the same Pioli/chiefs planted rumor.

Ebolapox 12-30-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9255341)
Are you serious? These ****ing idiots need fan feedback at this point?

does ****ing anything they do these days shock you?!?

DeezNutz 12-30-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255351)
As I said the dude's been wrong before, twice. I have no confidence in this rumor.

Pioli's meeting is real. The parameters are in place. It's a details and length meeting. Not a done deal, print em. But, there is a chance of a rehire.

All of this BS rumors could be Pioli plants and my dude is just repeating the same Pioli planted rumor.

Talking about earlier meetings about an extension? Or something more recent or imminent?

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9255361)
Talking about earlier meetings about an extension? Or something more recent or imminent?

The meeting tomorrow between Clark and Pioli.

SAUTO 12-30-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9255372)
The meeting tomorrow between Clark and Pioli.

It's about an extension?
Posted via Mobile Device

SAUTO 12-30-2012 08:26 PM

Parameters, details, and length, of an extension?
Posted via Mobile Device

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9255341)
Are you serious? These ****ing idiots need fan feedback at this point?

Maybe they thought SOC was a fad.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-30-2012 08:29 PM

We need to fly a plan over Arrowhead tomorrow morning.

WE ARE STILL HERE SCOTT... - SOC

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9255380)
It's about an extension?
Posted via Mobile Device

I don't know. The email didn't have that much detail. Reached out to another poster here and they have more details on the meeting but it's not my place to post them here.

But, I'm not freaking out, you shouldn't either. These started at the national level, not local. Could be Pioli plants to make himself look better when he leaves. Thats what I'm assuming.

BryanBusby 12-30-2012 08:31 PM

It seems 4 years ago we seriously thought Herm was going to be retained another year.

The Chiefs are the worst team in professional football; Pioli is toast.

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9255407)
We need to fly a plan over Arrowhead tomorrow morning.

WE ARE STILL HERE CLARK... - SOC

FYP

007 12-30-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9255327)
you gotta be part of the email club to get the info ;)

I'm supposed to be in the email club but I never get any email from him

SAUTO 12-30-2012 08:45 PM

It should say, why are you still here Scott? SOC
Posted via Mobile Device

Ebolapox 12-30-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9255529)
I'm supposed to be in the email club but I never get any email from him

me too :sulk:

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9255529)
I'm supposed to be in the email club but I never get any email from him

i think I only sent out one and then abandoned the idea.


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