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Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 03:12 PM

Just updated Pioli doc. Bolded parts are new.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...y9VyvIaW70EkLc

Quote:

1. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli: 23-41 (includes playoff loss).
This is the worst record for a GM in Chiefs history.


Jim Schaaf: .387 (1976-1988)
Scott Pioli: .359 (2009-2012)


2. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli against winning teams (9-7 or better): 3-17

2009: 1-6
2010: 1-3
2011: 1-3
2012: 0-5 (Falcons, Bengals, Broncos, Colts and Ravens all having winning records)

TOTAL: 3-17 (includes playoff loss to Ravens)


3. Chiefs record under Scott Pioli against playoff teams is 3-17

2009: 0-6
2010: 1-2 (includes playoff loss to Ravens)
2011: 2-4
2012: 0-5 (Falcons, Bengals, Broncos, Colts and Ravens are all playoff teams)

TOTAL: 3-17 (we beat the 7-9 Seahawks with Cassel. With Orton we beat the Packers and Broncos. Pioli decided Orton didn't need to be on the team. We have beaten ONE playoff team with Matt Cassel under center. The 7-9 Seahawks).


8. The Chiefs are a bad football team that can't even win home games anymore.

During our last 18 home games we are 4-14.


BossChief 12-30-2012 03:16 PM

Good news is that Denver NEEDS to win to lock up homefield.

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9252504)
Just updated Pioli doc. Bolded parts are new.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...y9VyvIaW70EkLc

Why bother wasting your time with any of this.

It was all a waste.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9252627)
Why bother wasting your time with any of this.

It was all a waste.

LMAO

Still think he is going to get fired.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-30-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9252654)
LMAO

Still think he is going to get fired.

Yeah, after my initial reaction of horror, nothing changes. That formerly fat, **** is being shown the door tomorrow. He's gone.

pr_capone 12-30-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9252677)
Yeah, after my initial reaction of horror, nothing changes. That formerly fat, **** is being shown the door tomorrow. He's gone.

I have exactly zero confidence that that is happening.

BossChief 12-30-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9252886)
I have exactly zero confidence that that is happening.

Marty told us that THE DEAL IS DONE.

BossChief 12-30-2012 03:59 PM

Final Banner:


Clark, move to KC or sell.

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9252677)
Yeah, after my initial reaction of horror, nothing changes. That formerly fat, **** is being shown the door tomorrow. He's gone.

I was sure of it until I saw what Frank posted.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2012 04:13 PM

Where is that Pioli doc about the wins and loses?

ChiefsCountry 12-30-2012 04:15 PM

The only gripe I had with SOC was the bench Cassel part. We should have never said anything about a certain player, should have just been on Pioli from the start.

pr_capone 12-30-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9253181)
The only gripe I had with SOC was the bench Cassel part. We should have never said anything about a certain player, should have just been on Pioli from the start.

The bench Cassel was all me and it was the very first banner. It was the only time we ever referenced a player. I understand people not liking it but I don't regret flying it for a moment. Cassel is terrible and this franchise refused to acknowledge that.

-King- 12-30-2012 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9252964)
Final Banner:


Clark, move to KC or sell.

No.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-30-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9253101)
I was sure of it until I saw what Frank posted.

You're freaking me the **** out. Link? What'd he say? Where?

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9253145)
Where is that Pioli doc about the wins and loses?

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...y9VyvIaW70EkLc

BossChief 12-30-2012 04:24 PM

Regarding all the insider info...Im not buying any of it at this point.

First, they said that Piolis extension was already signed...then he was fired...now he is staying...

I think the wise choice would be to just see how it plays out.

Shag 12-30-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9253248)
You're freaking me the **** out. Link? What'd he say? Where?

It's bad...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...9&postcount=95

Mr. Flopnuts 12-30-2012 04:27 PM

OMFG I am just, in shock. I don't know what to say. It's been nice knowing you guys...

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 04:43 PM

lololololol you better bring back pioli for more of this shit, Clark!

Titty Meat 12-30-2012 04:49 PM

Haha

ILChief 12-30-2012 04:50 PM

Marty, you hearing anything new?

SAUTO 12-30-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9253300)
OMFG I am just, in shock. I don't know what to say. It's been nice knowing you guys...

I'm with you buddy. This sucks
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Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 04:59 PM

Not good....there is so much smoke and mirrors going on. I do know Romeo is out but the fact that the Mount Rushmore of sports insiders -Glazer, Schefter, Mort and LaCanfora- haven't confirmed Wyche's report cause one to wonder as of 4pm MST today.

Look, we'll have to ride this out together. That's all any of us can do at this point.

-King- 12-30-2012 05:01 PM

Lol, I don't believe any insider reports coming out of this forum.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9253624)
Not good....there is so much smoke and mirrors going on. I do know Romeo is out but the fact that the Mount Rushmore of sports insiders -Glazer, Schefter, Mort and LaCanfora- haven't confirmed Wyche's report cause one to wonder as of 4pm MST today.

Look, we'll have to ride this out together. That's all any of us can do at this point.

So, when you told us he was already fired...that Romeo and Pioli had already been told they are gone....

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9253624)
Not good....there is so much smoke and mirrors going on. I do know Romeo is out but the fact that the Mount Rushmore of sports insiders -Glazer, Schefter, Mort and LaCanfora- haven't confirmed Wyche's report cause one to wonder as of 4pm MST today.

Look, we'll have to ride this out together. That's all any of us can do at this point.

The thing is LaCanfora has a direct line to Pioli and Pioli has fed him info before. If Wyche's report is true, why isn't Jason doing Pioli's public victory lap right now?

ChiefsCountry 12-30-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253643)
The thing is LaCanfora has a direct line to Pioli and Pioli has fed him info before. If Wyche's report is true, why isn't Jason doing Pioli's public victory lap right now?

Thats the thing I don't understand. If Pioli was back, the New England hand job media types would have been all over this. Not to mention every one of the media outlets would have had this story.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253643)
The thing is LaCanfora has a direct line to Pioli and Pioli has fed him info before. If Wyche's report is true, why isn't Jason doing Pioli's public victory lap right now?

The two sides aren't meeting till tomorrow and nothing is a done deal yet.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9253635)
Lol, I don't believe any insider reports coming out of this forum.

Dude, to say you don't believe any of it is silly. These guys have broke stories before and they've been dead on. They knew about Gunther getting fired before GUNTHER knew. NOBODY gets it 100% right 100% of the time.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253657)
The two sides aren't meeting till tomorrow and nothing is a done deal yet.

You honestly think its not decided at this point?

O.city 12-30-2012 05:05 PM

We are just trying to actually be trend setters this time. Instead of doing hte normal thing and firing him when he's put together the worst team in Chiefs history, we're gonna keep him.



Blazing new trails, 2013 KC CHiefs.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 05:05 PM

That is is what is mind blowing to me now. They guy that told me about Pioli being let go is a legit dude and is directly impacted by Pioli. Meaning, if Scott stays, he has a job. If Scott goes, he wont have a job. That guy would have every reason to lead me down the path of Scott staying.

Factor in what 2 others inside 1 Arrowhead have said and a few key media people and you can see why this thing is so murky right now.

Romeo is done.

Scott should be done.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253639)
So, when you told us he was already fired...that Romeo and Pioli had already been told they are gone....


-King- 12-30-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253658)
Dude, to say you don't believe any of it is silly. These guys have broke stories before and they've been dead on. They knew about Gunther getting fired before GUNTHER knew. NOBODY gets it 100% right 100% of the time.

Ok... saying "any" was kind of a stretch. There are some topics I can believe "insiders" on. But not this. Some here had a victory parade after Marty's post a week or so ago. Now they're panicking because of Bad Guy's post.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253665)
You honestly think its not decided at this point?

The forum believes you decide the fate of a college QB based on a snowy bowl game, why would this be any different.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9253670)
That is is what is mind blowing to me now. They guy that told me about Pioli being let go is a legit dude and is directly impacted by Pioli. Meaning, if Scott stays, he has a job. If Scott goes, he wont have a job. That guy would have every reason to lead me down the path of Scott staying.

Factor in what 2 others inside 1 Arrowhead have said and a few key media people and you can see why this thing is so murky right now.

Romeo is done.

Scott should be done.

So, the posts about him already packing his stuff were....?

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9253670)
That is is what is mind blowing to me now. They guy that told me about Pioli being let go is a legit dude and is directly impacted by Pioli. Meaning, if Scott stays, he has a job. If Scott goes, he wont have a job. That guy would have every reason to lead me down the path of Scott staying.

Factor in what 2 others inside 1 Arrowhead have said and a few key media people and you can see why this thing is so murky right now.

Romeo is done.

Scott should be done.

I think the media reports this morning REEK of Pioli being directly involved...

ChiefsCountry 12-30-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253691)
So, the posts about him already packing his stuff were....?

I don't know why anybody believed the original poster of that story. Tomahawk has always been an idiot.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253665)
You honestly think its not decided at this point?

I think Clark is leaning one way or the other, but that the plan Pioli puts in front of him will be a decision maker.

No way in hell will Clark allow Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels and I doubt Clark will be sold by Kirk Ferentz.

I think Pioli is gonna need to have a plan in place that will turn around this team or he will get fired.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:10 PM

Don't worry htis, we've been told all these "rumors" about Pioli are bs so there is nothing to worry about.

-King- 12-30-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253691)
So, the posts about him already packing his stuff were....?

Him making up shit.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253715)
I think Clark is leaning one way or the other, but that the plan Pioli puts in front of him will be a decision maker.

No way in hell will Clark allow Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels and I doubt Clark will be sold by Kirk Ferentz.

I think Pioli is gonna need to have a plan in place that will turn around this team or he will get fired.

Every coach he approached last year, said no.


A few that have been contacted this year, likely said no based on the GM.


When your GM affects Coaching hires, free agents, etc. something isn't right.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9253714)
I don't know why anybody believed the original poster of that story. Tomahawk has always been an idiot.

IIRC Marty said he verified that Pioli was in fact packing his stuff shortly after Tomahawk posted that he was.

Bewbies 12-30-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 9253272)

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Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 05:12 PM

Exactly!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253697)
I think the media reports this morning REEK of Pioli being directly involved...


Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-30-2012 05:13 PM

I did. Came from the same source that is impacted by all of this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253750)
IIRC Marty said he verified that Pioli was in fact packing his stuff shortly after Tomahawk posted that he was.


O.city 12-30-2012 05:14 PM

Why would Pioli be putting that stuff out there if he weren't in fact coming back?


It's time to realize that our beloved Clark, is about the money, and is a dipshit to boot.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253737)
Every coach he approached last year, said no.


A few that have been contacted this year, likely said no based on the GM.


When your GM affects Coaching hires, free agents, etc. something isn't right.

I dont know which coaches they were, but I know for a fact that 2 coaches turned the HC job down in 2009 before the job was given to Todd Haley.

Colin Cowherd clowns Pioli all the time as a wannabe football genius.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:17 PM

Notice all the Pioli chatter has died down alot?

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253766)
Why would Pioli be putting that stuff out there if he weren't in fact coming back?


It's time to realize that our beloved Clark, is about the money, and is a dipshit to boot.

Why would he lock members of media in the bathroom and not let them go to the bathroom without an escort?

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253766)
Why would Pioli be putting that stuff out there if he weren't in fact coming back?


It's time to realize that our beloved Clark, is about the money, and is a dipshit to boot.

He is fighting the difference between highest GM in the NFL pay and director of pro personnel pay somewhere else next year.

I agree that the reports seem to be coming from Pioli.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253792)
Notice all the Pioli chatter has died down alot?

There's games going on.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:18 PM

If he is in fact back, you can kiss Cowher or Gruden goodbye.

It will almost certainly be a coordinator at this point who has been waiting a while for a chance.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 05:19 PM

Pioli is probably doing this to try and make Clark look like a bad owner now.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9253799)
Why would he lock members of media in the bathroom and not let them go to the bathroom without an escort?

I'm just saying, if he is putting all this out, its likely he's back next year.

Red Beans 12-30-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253715)
I think Pioli is gonna need to have a plan in place that will turn around this team or he will get fired.

What the hell kind of plan could he come up with? It's pretty much been confirmed that Pissholi can't gargle enough cock to garner any interest in a position with the Chiefs by an intelligent human being. His plan's going to include unicorns and a ****ing cyclops, because it will all be fiction...

Titty Meat 12-30-2012 05:20 PM

I'm sorry but it seems like Pioli is staying it's hard for people to admit they were wrong. This franchise is ****ed and the city should turn their backs on this franchise. Clark is a sackless piece of shit **** him.

YayMike 12-30-2012 05:20 PM

The fact that there is this much debate about the issue leads me to believe that it has already been decided that Scotty is gone and this is just his last ditch effort to try and save face and make it seem like it was a REALLY tough decision for Clark so that when he goes elsewhere he can be picked up relatively quickly and their (poor unfortunate) fans wont seem like they are getting someone that not only our fanbase didnt want, but our ownership too.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:20 PM

What plan could he come up with?

McDaniels or Ferentz are likely his hire, you think either of those two are filling up season ticket orders or filling seats?

Red Beans 12-30-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 9253843)
The fact that there is this much debate about the issue leads me to believe that it has already been decided that Scotty is gone and this is just his last ditch effort to try and save face and make it seem like it was a REALLY tough decision for Clark so that when he goes elsewhere he can be picked up relatively quickly and their (poor unfortunate) fans wont seem like they are getting someone that not only our fanbase didnt want, but our ownership too.

God, please let this be true.

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253820)
I'm just saying, if he is putting all this out, its likely he's back next year.

why?

O.city 12-30-2012 05:22 PM

Why would he put this all out if he's been told he's not coming back next year?

Hammock Parties 12-30-2012 05:23 PM

If Pioli was coming back, he'd be putting it out VIA LA CANFORA.

Until he does, assume he's toast.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253844)
What plan could he come up with?

McDaniels or Ferentz are likely his hire, you think either of those two are filling up season ticket orders or filling seats?

Hiring Ferentz would do wonders for ticket sales...

















In Iowa City. ROFL

ILChief 12-30-2012 05:24 PM

What's up with John Clayton? Since ESPN hired Schefter all I see is him and Mort?

O.city 12-30-2012 05:24 PM

Media and fan revolt are gonna be epic if he's brought back.


Good job SOC on that.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253863)
Why would he put this all out if he's been told he's not coming back next year?

To save face.

"Clark didn't want to let me go but the Neanderthal fans in KC had to be placated."

YayMike 12-30-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9253865)
If Pioli was coming back, he'd be putting it out VIA LA CANFORA.

Until he does, assume he's toast.

I sort of agree. Again, I dont know shit, but it seems this is a last ditch effort to save his sorry ass.

-King- 12-30-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253766)
Why would Pioli be putting that stuff out there if he weren't in fact coming back?


It's time to realize that our beloved Clark, is about the money, and is a dipshit to boot.

Once again... he stands to LOSE more money by keeping Pioli than he does keeping him. Do you know how bad ticket and merch sales will be hit if Pioli is back? I'd be surprised if there are 25,000 tickets sold at each game. Clark is not going to write checks for 50,000 seats for 16 games.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9253881)
What's up with John Clayton? Since ESPN hired Schefter all I see is him and Mort?

He's starring in AWESOME commercials.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:26 PM

Like Bad Guy said, if he is staying, he's being extended to boot.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:28 PM

Get ready for Mike Glennon and Josh McDaniels.

bowener 12-30-2012 05:29 PM

I bet Pioli is racist.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9253927)
Get ready for Mike Glennon and Josh McDaniels.

Luke Joeckel FTW!

BossChief 12-30-2012 05:31 PM

I sincerely doubt Clark Hunt allows Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels.

He was caught cheating multiple times.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:31 PM

Oh yeah!


Bowe, Albert, Colquitt will be gone, Pioli didn't bring them in, if he won with them it wouldn't count. So we will need some players!

DeezNutz 12-30-2012 05:32 PM

If Hunt has integrity, Pioli takes a private plane back to KC, with a presser announced for tomorrow.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253972)
I sincerely doubt Clark Hunt allows Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels.

He was caught cheating multiple times.

Dude, I was where you were a few months ago. I really was.


Clark let Pioli hire Romeo and bring in Daboll. He's let him do all this stuff, put this product on the field, and he's STILL gonna keep him. He's going to let him hire his 3RD coach and staff.


At this point, I'm not really sure he has a clue.

Reaper16 12-30-2012 05:33 PM

The only two scenarios that make sense to me right now are either:

1.) Pioli is, has has been intimated today in this thread, just trying to save face. He wants it to seem like it was a very hard decision to let him go.

or

2.) all of the info that Marty had about Clark's real intentions and about Pioli being fired at the end of the season? It was all crafted to quell SOC's collective anger, to make Clark think that (as the Mike Florio story said) the fans' "outcry had diminished."

Until tomorrow night, I'm sticking with the first scenario. I'm not going to assume that Clark is the worst owner in American professional sports until he actually proves it.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9253972)
I sincerely doubt Clark Hunt allows Pioli to hire Josh McDaniels.

He was caught cheating multiple times.

Hunt hired Pioli to head up the FOOTBALL side of the business but reportedly is reluctant to fire him because he's cut OPERATING EXPENSES on the BUSINESS SIDE of the operation.

If Clark is letting him come back after EVERYTHING at has happened, he's gonna let Pioli hire whoever the **** he wants.

O.city 12-30-2012 05:35 PM

Pioli had one of his guys tell the "leader" of the SOC movement he was being fired to calm the fan storm?


Thats ****ing genious and I'm halfway hoping it happened.


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