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Imon Yourside 04-02-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 9549123)
But it is illegal to treat cancer in the United States with anything other than surgery, chemotherapy or radiation. That fact makes it very easy for me to believe that big pharma is keeping things like this under wraps and/or illegal.

In before Head Traumas lecture on how people should only trust professionals even after they've given up on the patient.

Johnny Vegas 04-02-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9549104)
The problem is that you don't actually know the benefits. You're hearing/seeing other people's accounts and accepting it as proof. But that's not proof. Even seeing an MRI, I still seriously question saying what caused her tumor to shrink. Pot is fun and harmless. But there's still absolutely zero proof of it being a cure or treatment for anything besides appetite stimulation.

oh what the **** ever. concrete evidence just isn't enough anymore to show that it works. she isn't doing chemo so what just exactly is making her tumors shrink? yogurt? maybe she stands by the microwave while its on.

Mr. Kotter 04-02-2013 10:28 AM

Along with the rest of her brain too? Duh.

JK, jk....heh. ;)

Fish 04-02-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9549126)
I realize that this one case wouldn't prove anything. But this plant has been tested over thousands of years and it is fun and harmless like you said. But if it would be allowed to be researched, they might find a cure for cancer. But they don't want a cure, the current treatments cost a million dollars. Weed is practically free. Yes, our federal government would rather people die and live in pain and agony than take this natural alternative. It's criminal.

It hasn't been tested over thousands of years. It's simply been used, and people have attributed just about anything and everything to their usage. I'd love for it to be researched. I don't expect a cure for cancer, but I do expect many other positive uses. And that's not even considering the non-THC applications of the plant itself, with uses as a paper or textile base.

It's a great little plant. But I think we're a long way for saying it treats anything. The federal government doesn't want people to die in agony. Easy with your crazy conspiracies. The government simply enjoys the stream of income they get from prosecuting its usage.

loochy 04-02-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9549155)
It hasn't been tested over thousands of years. It's simply been used, and people have attributed just about anything and everything to their usage. I'd love for it to be researched. I don't expect a cure for cancer, but I do expect many other positive uses. And that's not even considering the non-THC applications of the plant itself, with uses as a paper or textile base.

It's a great little plant. But I think we're a long way for saying it treats anything. The federal government doesn't want people to die in agony. Easy with your crazy conspiracies. The government simply enjoys the stream of income they get from prosecuting its usage.

this is probably the best response

Donger 04-02-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 9549148)
oh what the **** ever. concrete evidence just isn't enough anymore to show that it works. she isn't doing chemo so what just exactly is making her tumors shrink? yogurt? maybe she stands by the microwave while its on.

Spontaneous remission.

teedubya 04-02-2013 10:34 AM

Cancer is a $160 Billion a year industry... why would they allow a plant that is un-patentable to be legal? Instead, they can create synthetic drugs and charge outrageous prices for them.

#Murica

Imon Yourside 04-02-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9549155)
It hasn't been tested over thousands of years. It's simply been used, and people have attributed just about anything and everything to their usage. I'd love for it to be researched. I don't expect a cure for cancer, but I do expect many other positive uses. And that's not even considering the non-THC applications of the plant itself, with uses as a paper or textile base.

It's a great little plant. But I think we're a long way for saying it treats anything. The federal government doesn't want people to die in agony. Easy with your crazy conspiracies. The government simply enjoys the stream of income they get from prosecuting its usage.

http://www.americandrugwar.com/

Imon Yourside 04-02-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9549163)
Spontaneous remission.

Donger detector active, BS response detected. Poster should stick to trying to defend gas prices. :)

Fish 04-02-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 9549148)
oh what the **** ever. concrete evidence just isn't enough anymore to show that it works. she isn't doing chemo so what just exactly is making her tumors shrink? yogurt? maybe she stands by the microwave while its on.

There is no concrete evidence. You can show any Youtube video you want, but that's not concrete evidence. We don't know exactly what's making her tumors shrink. It very well could be yogurt. There's as much evidence for that as there is for claiming cannabis did it. Don't let the correlation lead you to believe there's causation there. Sometimes tumors remiss by themselves for seemingly unknown reasons. It's dangerous to attribute it to something without being sure.

Bump 04-02-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9549155)
It hasn't been tested over thousands of years. It's simply been used, and people have attributed just about anything and everything to their usage. I'd love for it to be researched. I don't expect a cure for cancer, but I do expect many other positive uses. And that's not even considering the non-THC applications of the plant itself, with uses as a paper or textile base.

It's a great little plant. But I think we're a long way for saying it treats anything. The federal government doesn't want people to die in agony. Easy with your crazy conspiracies. The government simply enjoys the stream of income they get from prosecuting its usage.

ok, at least you have an open mind. You need more proof. I get that, I do.

But the government, sure they want us to live in agony. Look at the pills they are pushing. You see those commercials? They usually have a woman walking down the beach looking happy while they are listing off the 100 bad effects. But all in the while, weed could replace most of those pills while doing a better job treating it and without bad side effects. But nope!

I know an older lady here in Boston. A mom of a friend, she has epilepsy. She hasn't had a seizure in a long time and she gave up on the pills and switched to weed. She's living the best quality of life in a long time, for her and I'm happy to see it. I wish others could have it.

But at least now, she can get a red card but there aren't any dispensaries opened yet so she still has to go through a dealer.

Johnny Vegas 04-02-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9549163)
Spontaneous remission.

I absolutely doubt that. she was given a death date. doctors wouldn't tell you when you're going to die if there's a chance you can be cured am I wrong?

Donger 04-02-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9549176)
Donger detector active, BS response detected. Poster should stick to trying to defend gas prices. :)

You were/are unaware that cancer sometimes goes into remission spontaneously?

Imon Yourside 04-02-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9549179)
There is no concrete evidence. You can show any Youtube video you want, but that's not concrete evidence. We don't know exactly what's making her tumors shrink. It very well could be yogurt. There's as much evidence for that as there is for claiming cannabis did it. Don't let the correlation lead you to believe there's causation there. Sometimes tumors remiss by themselves for seemingly unknown reasons. It's dangerous to attribute it to something without being sure.

I don't believe it's dangerous that someone is sharing their experiences, I just don't see it. I've yet to see anyone claim that yogurt has cured their cancer, and i've seen many different claims.

Imon Yourside 04-02-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9549187)
You were/are unaware that cancer sometimes goes into remission spontaneously?

Where there is effect there is cause, there is a good reason for it even if no one knows it.


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