Hypothetical trade with the Raiders
 

Would you switch 1s with the Raiders this year in exchange for a switch of 1s next year?

that's it? just a switch of first rounders? hell no. there are NO guarantees. what if disaster struck and everybody major on our team got injured and we finished WORST than they did? you just butt****ed our franchise by making said trade. you NEVER give somebody the chance to ream you like that. **** no.

Wut

Not sure if serious? Worst trade in the history of the NFL.

If they would be dumb enough to do that trade, I'd do it.

The Raiders are gonna be garbage next year...possibly the worst team in football...we will be picking in the low teens to early 20s.

Who wouldn't want to trade 1:1 and 1:18 for 1:3 and 1:2?

I agree with Boss here.

Round_2014 = Round_2013-1

Time value of draft picks.

I don't think that's entirely relevant here, though...as both of our picks would be devalued for the same reason.

If all we are talking about is swapping picks, this would be a clear "you guys are gonna be garbage next year and I'd love to have your first rounder" type of slap in the face trade.

From a "value to KC" perspective, I'd make that trade.

Id be shocked if Oakland is drafting outside of the top five next year. Look at their roster....on the flip side of the coin, it's gonna take a catastrophe for us to be drafting in the top ten.

I'd make the trade.

Oops

I formally retract every comment I have made in this thread.

Can't win em all.

In Madden, yes. In real life, nope. What if we ended up the worst team next year too for whatever reason? They'd get the top pick in 2 consecutive drafts. Just not worth it. What would we get out of that trade? A SHOT at a better pick than our own record gives us next year? **** that.

Dude, go look at Oaklands roster.

That team isn't drafting outside the top 5 next year.

Never trade with the Faid... Not an option unless they go full tard and give us unrealistic value.

Dude I agree. But this is the NFL. Even shitty teams can get lucky and go 8 and ****ing 8. It isn't like we're guaranteed to do well either.

I doubt very highly that we don't get to 8-8 next year.

We don't have the Cassel "anchor" throwing/ fumbling the ball to the other team at a near record pace anymore.

Alex Smith isn't a world beater, but he won't lose games for us, either.

I'd bet almost anything that we have at least 7 wins next year and Oakland has less than 5.

I'll do this trade next year, not this year with the #1 pick you must be crazy....

Yeah we'd very likely do well if we made the trade. However, if we didn't, we'd look like gigantic ****in idiots, and we've done that enough for my liking. If we trade the #1 pick, regardless of how this draft class is perceived, I'd like to at least get SOMETHING guaranteed in return out of the deal. And I certainly wouldn't want to take the risk of losing something.

FYP

I don't think people really understand just how bad the Raiders will be this year.

The Chiefs have targeted four players this year; they are still guaranteed to get one of them with this trade. I'm willing to bet that they would have a 50/50 chance to land Clowney next year with that trade.

It's funny how many people say we have to roll the dice, but they only want to roll the dice when there is a crappy draft. When there is an opportunity to get a player that the FO likes in this draft and still land a once in a generation player, whoa Nellie, gotta play it safe....

If we could swing a deal like this and then move down another two times, adding another second and third rounder and end up picking in the late teens this year...we could really own the 2013 draft as well as secure a top 5 pick next year that we could use on a qb if one is "good enough"...if one isn't, Clowney would look good in red n gold.

I guess I'm just not that confident in gambling on how an NFL season will unfold. Especially considering we could end up cellar dwellers with Oakland. It'd be funny if the trade did occur and we played Oakland the last game of the season, and we were both the worst 2 teams in the NFL. It would be the biggest game between 2 cellar dwellers ever. Gotta win to get that #1 pick lol.

No QB in the draft will ever be "good enough" for this fatty-loving, ****tard fanbase.
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Only if we landed the top pick with a Luck or Manning type QB. Apparently that just isn't in the damn cards for us though. Hell, they'd probably take a tackle then too, directly after trading for another teams backup QB.

Like a boss.

**** the blueprints!

Chiefs way or bust!

Of course they would take the fatty. Every ****ing time. Go ahead and insert whichever can't miss, unquestioned QB prospect ever to come down the pike in to that scenario. The Chiefs would pass on him and have the full blessing of Lil Chiefy Idiot Fan all day long.
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THIS MAN IS A GENIUS AND IS WORTHY OF PRAISE.

Abandon thread

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THIS
unless they offer all next year
or at least a first and second

My goodness

We should have traded them Cassel for their Firsts in 2013 and 2014.

I have little doubt Oakland finishs any better than 3-13. They are going to be absolutely horrible.

If we were definitely going to finish next season with a great record, then we could rely on the Raiders amount of suckage. But we can't count out that we may suck just as hard. So no.

I wonder what they would have been saying about Luck and RGIII if we had pick 1 or 2 last year.

"RG3 is too black and runs too much. Luck is obviously a bust because everyone says he's good."

They would be raping us.

:bong: with the rest of us.

No.

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Black Jesus will solve all.

Not gonna happen. Reggie will trade down and get more draft picks.

What's funny about saying KC will be picking between 13-22 next year and Oakland will be picking in the top five?

I think that's realistic.

If so, it would make zero sense on Oakland's part to make such a trade. And Mr. Burns isn't around anymore.

**** the fade

NO DEAL

This, so much.
You gaggle of vaginas.

The scenario would only make sense if Oakland was sold on Geno Smith.

You were 2-14 last year and you added Smiff ROFL Now you think you are going to be a 8-8 team? No Way

I'd rather go 2-14 again and prove we need to draft QBotf with our top pick than go 8-8. fml.

Dude I ****ing hate Axl, but even I can see the .500 writing on the wall. Don't worry though; that's all KC strives for in life anyway.
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Not me. There isnt jack shit for the next two years at QB prospect-wise. And Im not tanking for some asshole named Clowney either.
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Just face it; until the classes of 05 through 08 are on their way out, it will always be about veterans and "win now".
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chiefs are this close to crashing and burning like we did... Gut the fish and start over

We did. Hello?
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Of course. It's a no-brainer. If the Chiefs don't finish ahead of the Raiders in 2013, they ought to disband the franchise.

And if they do finish behind them, I'm sure you'll drum up several fine excuses as to why so. Here, I'll start for you:
"It's only the first season under Reid; these guys need more time to gel". Etc.
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Time value has almost no relevance here if you accept the idea that you'll be as happy with the 3rd pick in this draft as you are with the first. I think the Chiefs are in that position here, particularly if it's Oakland and Jacksonville ahead of us.

And an actual head coach.

This franchise should keep eating shit because one day it might taste like Filet Mignon.

Go on. I'm interested in your opinion. Really.

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Likewise.
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If he was the shit Philly would have not fired him

Philly was dogshit. He'll do better here.
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I don't see it

Not happening

He lost a son in the preseason and had almost his entire Offense injured to lead to only his 2nd losing season in his tenure in Philly. He may not be the shit, but to not admit he is a vast upgrade over Crennel is ridiculous.

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I don't think he is a shit coach but I just think KC will be battling us for the basement

Oakland and Jacksonville look to be equally awful going into the season. I mean historically bad talent.

Chiefs have the same overrated shit the Raiders have last year... You will gut that fish next year.. Guaranteed

In my honest opinion, KC looks like about a 9 win team even with Smith. I don't see a single Pro Bowl talent on the Faid outside of kicker.

that's not a trade, it's buying a lottery ticket and crossing your fingers

Pro Bowl? Ain't nobody got time fo' that! How does a team with five Pro Bowl players finish last in their division?

I don't know 50 turnovers will sink ya, but they'll be much better this season. The Faid have worse talent than your Palmer photoshop skills :eek:

Ah well, at least we'll be whipping your ass twice this year, yes. So there's that.
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Reighters is too scurred to bet me. I offered a user name bet since mine's still on it's cherry.

Eh, you know the Faid; talk a lot of shit, think they're bad, but really; they are just bad.
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I actually haven't been paying much attention this offseason. Are the Raiders just going to roll with Terrelle Pryor now or what?

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They traded for Matt Flynn.

Also

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