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AustinChief 04-16-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 7570584)
What that article tells me is that adobe is working to allow its flash stuff to work with html5. If they succeed in that, and render 95% of flash content on the web viewable by iOS, then what the **** are you going to bitch about?

yep, it's confirmed, you definitely have brain damage.

You really are clueless about all this, which is fine, but you didn't even BOTHER reading my post or if you did, you didn't bother trying to understand it.

This is not anything groundbreaking... it does NOT take existing Flash video and magically make it work on an iPad... It is a developer tool. That's it. Developers and Publishers have NOT been sitting on their hands saying "oh gee I guess we can't serve our video via HTML5 until Adobe gives us an easier way to do it!" They haven't made the switch because right now, HTML5 lacks any form of DRM and has yet to settle on a standard video codec.

Let's review,
This will NOT convert existing Flash video.
This is just one of many developer tools.
NO ONE is going to suddenly just switch from Flash to HTML5 because of this.

Silock 04-16-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7570659)
NO ONE is going to suddenly just switch from Flash to HTML5 because of this.

With this new tool, they won't have to. That's kinda the point.

AustinChief 04-16-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7570748)
With this new tool, they won't have to. That's kinda the point.

NO, not really. You do understand what it is right? It's just an update to their Media Server. If you are streaming content that doesn't require DRM and you really wanted to reach the iPad... as a publisher, you'd have done it by now. Yes this makes it much easier and less complex but it won't change the landscape for the consumer. Hell, they haven't even announced a release date for this yet.

Silock 04-17-2011 12:23 AM

This isn't solely about the iPad, though. It's about being able to stream to any device that doesn't have Flash installed and supports HTML5.

AustinChief 04-17-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7571212)
This isn't solely about the iPad, though. It's about being able to stream to any device that doesn't have Flash installed and supports HTML5.

Yes, of course, but that doesn't change anything I posted. This simplifies implementation it does nothing to address the PRIMARY reasons some publishers are reluctant to make the move.

Silock 04-20-2011 02:43 PM

Hmm, is Android really winning? Doesn't appear to be the case.

http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events...Percent_in_U.S

DaFace 04-20-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7579614)
Hmm, is Android really winning? Doesn't appear to be the case.

http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events...Percent_in_U.S

No, that's Charlie Sheen.

(And aside from that, the other stats have been specifically about smartphone sales, where these are about total current market penetration. There's a big difference.)

Fish 04-20-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7579614)
Hmm, is Android really winning? Doesn't appear to be the case.

http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events...Percent_in_U.S

That's kinda interesting. Especially the iPad ownership section:

Apple iPad Ownership Extends Beyond Just “Fanboys”
The research also suggests that iPad ownership extends well beyond Apple’s most fervent consumers. Although a perception may exist that iPad owners tend to be those with a very strong affinity for Apple products, an analysis of the mobile devices of iPad owners indicates that may not be the case. While Apple is indeed the most heavily represented OEM among iPad owners, its OEM share (27.3 percent) is only slightly higher than its share among all smartphone subscribers (25.2 percent). RIM accounts for the second highest percentage of iPad owners at 17.5 percent, but this number is well below its overall smartphone market share of 28.9 percent. Meanwhile, Samsung, LG and Nokia are all significantly overrepresented among iPad owners as compared to their respective shares of the smartphone market. In addition, 14.2 percent of iPad users had Android phones.


<table class="renderedtable" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="434"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="4" valign="top" width="579"> Mobile Phone OEM Breakdown for Apple iPad Owners
3 Mo. Avg. Ending February 2011
Total U.S. Mobile Subscribers, Age 13+
Source: comScore MobiLens </td> </tr><tr class="bglight"> <td valign="top" width="259">
</td> <td valign="top" width="107"> % of Smartphone Users </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> % of iPad Users </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> Index of iPad to Smartphone Owners* </td> </tr><tr class="bgdark"> <td valign="top" width="259"> Total Subscribers </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 100.0% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 100.0% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 100 </td> </tr><tr class="bglight"> <td valign="top" width="259"> Apple </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 25.2% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 27.3% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 108 </td> </tr><tr class="bgdark"> <td valign="top" width="259"> RIM </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 28.9% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 17.5% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 61 </td> </tr><tr class="bglight"> <td valign="top" width="259"> Samsung </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 8.6% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 14.3% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 167 </td> </tr><tr class="bgdark"> <td valign="top" width="259"> LG </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 3.6% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 12.1% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 340 </td> </tr><tr class="bglight"> <td valign="top" width="259"> Motorola </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 10.7% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 9.0% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 84 </td> </tr><tr class="bgdark"> <td valign="top" width="259"> Nokia </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 2.3% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 3.4% </td> <td valign="top" width="107"> 149 </td></tr></tbody></table>

Silock 04-20-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7579639)
No, that's Charlie Sheen.

(And aside from that, the other stats have been specifically about smartphone sales, where these are about total current market penetration. There's a big difference.)

AC said this:
Quote:

Android has passed iOS in market share
I'm just saying that that does not appear to be the case, according to these numbers.

DaFace 04-20-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7579945)
AC said this:


I'm just saying that that does not appear to be the case, according to these numbers.

I'm not one to really care about the market share debates since the point-in-time numbers are largely meaningless compared to the trends, but the earlier discussion was loosely centered around smartphones, while your article includes tablets and even iPods.

But you are right, the total number of devices (of all types) running iOS is greater than the total number of devices running Android.

DaFace 04-20-2011 05:16 PM

On a side note, one of my pet peeves as a statistician is when people say things like "Apple iOS Platform Outreaches Android by 59 Percent." It's not false, but it's definitely misleading. The actual numbers are 10.2% Android and 16.2% iOS, which I think is much more clear in really understanding the situation.

AustinChief 04-20-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7579945)
AC said this:


I'm just saying that that does not appear to be the case, according to these numbers.

yes I was speaking of SMARTPHONE market share... that is clear if looked at in context.

Silock 04-20-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7580116)
yes I was speaking of SMARTPHONE market share... that is clear if looked at in context.

No, it's not clear at all, considering that post was made after several posts involving simply iOS vs. Android marketplace. There was no delineation at all made between smartphone and tablet marketshare. This particular discussion was centered around iOS and Android, not iPhone vs. Android phones.

I'm willing to see that you MEANT that, but it's hardly clear from context.

AustinChief 04-21-2011 02:34 PM

Just read that 30% of all YouTube video (the 30% that accounts for 99% of all views) have been transcoded to WebM and of course all new uploads are transcoded to WebM. So far, older h.264 encoded videos are still supported but there are no assurances that will last much longer.

WebM is finally getting full hardware support for both decoding and encoding... and of course it has native support in Android 2.3 and 3.0... should be interesting.

btw, Safari is the only major browser left that has no support for WebM.

AustinChief 04-25-2011 01:39 PM

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...ngry-birds.ars

Nook Color gets Froyo and a proper marketplace... it definitely qualifies as a non-iOS fully functional tablet now...

Sweet! That adds 3 million units to my non-iOS totals! If I had to guess I would say that as of April 1st - iPads = ~19 million AND non-iPad= ~7 million

Going to be interesting...


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