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Buehler445 12-30-2012 11:54 AM

The Americans on FX
 
Just saw a promo, but haven't heard anything about it.

From the promo, it looks like there are some Russian spies living in America and are trying to keep their covers intact.

Looks pretty decent. What's everyones thoughts on this?

I'm kinda excited.

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Buck 12-30-2012 11:56 AM

I'll be watching...Espionage is fun, but it's hard to pull off without jumping the shark very early on.

Deberg_1990 12-30-2012 12:13 PM

I'm willing to give any new show on FX a shot.

Kerri Russell. Yes please!
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Buehler445 12-30-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9251434)
I'm willing to give any new show on FX a shot.

Kerri Russell. Yes please!
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Yeah dude. I'm quite anxious to see how Kerri Russell looks these days. In my formative years, she made my pants fit weird.

ChiliConCarnage 12-30-2012 02:31 PM

FX has been pretty solid over the years and I like spy films so I'm going to give it a shot

tredadda 12-30-2012 03:12 PM

I am also looking forward to it. FX has been putting on some good shows lately.

Bump 12-30-2012 05:57 PM

what is this a homeland spin off?

ragedogg69 12-31-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9254277)
what is this a homeland spin off?

No i heard it is a ripoff. (which quite honestly is not a bad thing)

Buehler445 01-01-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69 (Post 9262530)
No i heard it is a ripoff. (which quite honestly is not a bad thing)

Checked out some on Homeland. Looks pretty good. Wish I had Showtime.

Buehler445 01-29-2013 09:40 PM

Starts tomorrow.

okoye35chiefs 01-30-2013 10:17 AM

i may try this one out... homeland, dexter, american horror are the only shows that I truely have tv for... (besides any NFL games and Porn)

keg in kc 01-30-2013 11:26 AM

The reviews I've read are exceptionally good.

gblowfish 01-30-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9251443)
Yeah dude. I'm quite anxious to see how Kerri Russell looks these days. In my formative years, she made my pants fit weird.

She's hotter than Anna Chapman!

http://tinyurl.com/bdukmnk

rocknrolla 01-30-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by okoye35chiefs (Post 9364249)
i may try this one out... homeland, dexter, american horror are the only shows that I truely have tv for... (besides any NFL games and Porn)

No Breaking Bad? You should give it a chance. IMO, One of the best series ever.

aturnis 01-30-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by okoye35chiefs (Post 9364249)
i may try this one out... homeland, dexter, american horror are the only shows that I truely have tv for... (besides any NFL games and Porn)

You watch point on your television? Weird.

Pasta Giant Meatball 01-31-2013 12:15 PM

Any one else even watch?

Buehler445 01-31-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9367605)
Any one else even watch?

I DVRd it. I've been fighting this damn cold and went to bed early. I think I'll watch it tonight.

morphius 01-31-2013 01:03 PM

I watched it last night, not bad. It felt like watching a bit of the opposite side of the Clancy book I'm reading right now.

keg in kc 01-31-2013 01:43 PM

Finishing it up right now. Really like the pilot.

BWillie 01-31-2013 02:04 PM

My cable pooped out right in the middle....and it's not on demand yet. Anywhere you can watch this online?

keg in kc 01-31-2013 02:12 PM

Not that I can find. I don't think FX puts their shows on hulu or netflix anymore, and it doesn't look like it reairs until after Justified next Tuesday. Hopefully somebody else can come up with a better answer.

Captain Obvious 01-31-2013 08:24 PM

The pilot is on Hulu.

Deberg_1990 01-31-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9368003)
Not that I can find. I don't think FX puts their shows on hulu or netflix anymore, and it doesn't look like it reairs until after Justified next Tuesday. Hopefully somebody else can come up with a better answer.

Actually there are a few FX shows on Netflix.

SOA, AHS and Terriers off the top of my head. Of course, nothing current....just the past seasons.

You usually can buy currently running seasons of episodes off Amazon instant on an ala carte basis for like $1.99 each.

Tribal Warfare 01-31-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9367960)
My cable pooped out right in the middle....and it's not on demand yet. Anywhere you can watch this online?

http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/The-Americans_33843/

Unsmooth-Moment 01-31-2013 08:47 PM

At work, I have it DVR'd at home.. Is it any good?

ChiefsandO'sfan 01-31-2013 08:48 PM

Good show.

keg in kc 01-31-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9368823)
Actually there are a few FX shows on Netflix.

SOA, AHS and Terriers off the top of my head. Of course, nothing current....just the past seasons.

Yeah, current is what I'm referring to. I have a friend that doesn't have cable and he's been pretty miffed for the last year that Justified doesn't go online anymore.

Deberg_1990 01-31-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9368876)
Yeah, current is what I'm referring to. I have a friend that doesn't have cable and he's been pretty miffed for the last year that Justified doesn't go online anymore.

Amazon Instant. $1.99


http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Waldo/d...ords=justified

keg in kc 01-31-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 9368871)
At work, I have it DVR'd at home.. Is it any good?

General consensus so far seems to be that it's good.

Deberg_1990 01-31-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9368975)

Wow, after looking at this i think i might just start cutting back on my cable bill. I only religiously watch about 5 or 6 shows per year. I can get a whole season package of a show on there for about 15-20 bucks.

Thats a ton of money saved on cable a year.

BigRedChief 01-31-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 9367741)
I watched it last night, not bad. It felt like watching a bit of the opposite side of the Clancy book I'm reading right now.

Are you reading Clancy's latest book? I thought it has way too much partisan preaching in the book. Turned me off.

BigRedChief 01-31-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9367858)
Finishing it up right now. Really like the pilot.

It was okay. Would be better on HBO/Showtime so they can show boobage and the dark side of spying in all its glory.

I did like the end. Thats what they can do well on TV. Show the cat and mouse part of spying.

Buehler445 02-01-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 9368871)
At work, I have it DVR'd at home.. Is it any good?

Watch it. It's worth your time. You may not like it, but it's good enough you should watch it to see for yourself.

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9369091)
It was okay. Would be better on HBO/Showtime so they can show boobage and the dark side of spying in all its glory.

I did like the end. Thats what they can do well on TV. Show the cat and mouse part of spying.

They showed a lot more than I thought they would.

Spoiler!


That being said, I really liked it. In fact, it was quite a bit better than I expected. It kept me hooked through the whole thing and the twists they used aren't sustainable over the long term, but I expect the tone to be set and other plot devices will keep the interest in the story.

I thought it was pretty well done for what it was, and overall I'm really impressed.

And good **** Keri Russell is still smokin ass hot.

kcxiv 02-01-2013 01:00 AM

lol, USA/FX/TNT/TBS/AMC can almost do what HBO and Showtime do now days. you wont see any bush or nips.Everything else is fair game. They can say any word but the F word now.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-01-2013 12:32 PM

It was pretty solid. The Mrs. Karate Kid shit was a bit much though.

Buehler445 02-01-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9370278)
It was pretty solid. The Mrs. Karate Kid shit was a bit much though.

Spoiler!


In spite of all that, I really liked it and I'm really excited.

BigRedChief 02-01-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9370297)
Spoiler!


In spite of all that, I really liked it and I'm really excited.

why the spoiler? If its been broadcast, its fair game to post.

Buehler445 02-01-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9371465)
why the spoiler? If its been broadcast, its fair game to post.

Meh. I waited a day to watch it. I figured if anybody was waiting to watch it they'd appreciate it.

Baby Lee 02-04-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9369370)
Watch it. It's worth your time. You may not like it, but it's good enough you should watch it to see for yourself.



They showed a lot more than I thought they would.

Spoiler!


That being said, I really liked it. In fact, it was quite a bit better than I expected. It kept me hooked through the whole thing and the twists they used aren't sustainable over the long term, but I expect the tone to be set and other plot devices will keep the interest in the story.

I thought it was pretty well done for what it was, and overall I'm really impressed.

And good **** Keri Russell is still smokin ass hot.

Remember me Captain?

[slam]

All my life I knew I wanted to be a gangster.

. . . I knew I'd go from rags to riches . . .

Immistakable mirrors.

ChiliConCarnage 02-04-2013 05:55 PM

finally watched it off DVR and I thought it was pretty good. The agent who moves in across the street has a really memorable face but I can't think of his name. He and Phillip were really good though I thought.

It kind of feels like it should be a mini-series. We'll see if they can keep it fresh

Buehler445 02-04-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 9378412)
finally watched it off DVR and I thought it was pretty good. The agent who moves in across the street has a really memorable face but I can't think of his name. He and Phillip were really good though I thought.

It kind of feels like it should be a mini-series. We'll see if they can keep it fresh

Noah Emmerich

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001187/

The most recent thing I've seen him in is White Collar.

Tribal Warfare 02-04-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9369091)
It was okay. Would be better on HBO/Showtime so they can show boobage and the dark side of spying in all its glory.

I did like the end. Thats what they can do well on TV. Show the cat and mouse part of spying.

The only thing that gets me is , when Keri Russell didn't speak Russian at the safe house with her handler.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2013 07:32 PM

I thought it was really good.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle that Sopranos dilemma of having to root for a very obvious bad guy. I mean let's face it, these are as bad a guys as it got in the 80s.

Tribal Warfare 02-04-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9378685)
I thought it was really good.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle that Sopranos dilemma of having to root for a very obvious bad guy. I mean let's face it, these are as bad a guys as it got in the 80s.

They've already given the dilemma which is for country or defect for family.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9378703)
They've already given the dilemma which is for country or defect for family.

With how they've portrayed Russell's character, I'd be sorely disappointed if they ever had her turn.

The father could be a character the engender sympathy, but Kerri just shoved her finger in a man's ass for the motherland - something tells me that this is not the kind of person that defects shortly thereafter.

Tribal Warfare 02-04-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9378841)
With how they've portrayed Russell's character, I'd be sorely disappointed if they ever had her turn.

The father could be a character the engender sympathy, but Kerri just shoved her finger in a man's ass for the motherland - something tells me that this is not the kind of person that defects shortly thereafter.

hence the dilemma

Buehler445 02-04-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9378671)
The only thing that gets me is , when Keri Russell didn't speak Russian at the safe house with her handler.

She did when she got raped. They were trying to get her to use English.

Tribal Warfare 02-04-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9379027)
She did when she got raped. They were trying to get her to use English.

I remember her having the accent, but not speaking Russian after being pinned down in the "field combat" exercise.

Buehler445 02-05-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9379173)
I remember her having the accent, but not speaking Russian after being pinned down in the "field combat" exercise.

I believe she said "Nien". I don't know. Sounded good enough to be believable to me.

DJ's left nut 02-07-2013 03:39 PM

Another good episode but I thought they 'warmed' Elizabeth entirely too quickly.

2 days ago she was willing to roast her family on a spit for Mother Russia. Now she's being criticizing mission objectives and getting all giggly while piercing her daughters ears at midnight.

Wait....I forgot. It's a woman we're talking about here. Since when did their emotions run evenly for more than 15 minutes straight?

Retracted. FX hit the nail on the head.

kcxiv 02-07-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9385495)
Another good episode but I thought they 'warmed' Elizabeth entirely too quickly.

2 days ago she was willing to roast her family on a spit for Mother Russia. Now she's being criticizing mission objectives and getting all giggly while piercing her daughters ears at midnight.

Wait....I forgot. It's a woman we're talking about here. Since when did their emotions run evenly for more than 15 minutes straight?

Retracted. FX hit the nail on the head.

I was about to say dude is a women! lol

Anyways, so far so good. Its keeping me interested. I just need to remind myself the setting is in the 80's not current times. lol im always waiting for a cell phone or some high tech and its not happening really. haha then im like oh yeah, 80's lol

Buehler445 02-08-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9385495)
Another good episode but I thought they 'warmed' Elizabeth entirely too quickly.

2 days ago she was willing to roast her family on a spit for Mother Russia. Now she's being criticizing mission objectives and getting all giggly while piercing her daughters ears at midnight.

Wait....I forgot. It's a woman we're talking about here. Since when did their emotions run evenly for more than 15 minutes straight?

Retracted. FX hit the nail on the head.

I think they did a decent enough job of making the event of smoking off of that dude that raped her a kind of turning point, at least a point of reflection. And the smoking off of that dude that raped her provided some closure on getting raped and all the trauma associated.

I can empathize with her position. The draw between country and children is tough. Being married for 20 years to someone you know nothing about and your commie bastard government told you to marry is tough. The whole identity crisis is very interesting to me. Bottom line, I'm OK with Keri Russell's character.

On the whole, I'm really impressed with it so far. There is a little bit of nostalgia going on, and the workings WITHOUT technology is interesting. The characters are interesting. I'm all in.

Buehler445 02-08-2013 12:50 AM

In other news, I gotta be a spy. They **** all the time.

jiveturkey 02-08-2013 10:30 AM

I wonder if we developed a spy program anywhere close to what the Russians were pulling off back in the day.

I would think that it would be a shitty assignment. Russians get to come here for most of their adult life, getting sent in the other direction would be a nightmare.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9386595)
On the whole, I'm really impressed with it so far. There is a little bit of nostalgia going on, and the workings WITHOUT technology is interesting. The characters are interesting. I'm all in.

That's easily my favorite part. They're doing a spy show without all the spy gadgets. They're doing it at the ground level with the nasty, garote wire kinds of shit that actually happened. Seeing them do a spy show with technology that's 30 years old is really fascinating.

And it has some quick lines here and there that I think are just brilliant. "You and God have had a misunderstanding" was blood chilling and for some reason "Anyway...I took his caviar" and the delivery of it just cracked me up.

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I wonder if we developed a spy program anywhere close to what the Russians were pulling off back in the day.
Yeah, we did. It's pretty staggering how much better we were than the Russians at almost everything. I read a story once that kinda combined both our spy network and our technology. The Russians were running subs off our coasts and thinking they were all discreet about it. We had a person inside that had intercepted the positions of the entire Soviet submarine fleet. So we put attack subs behind each one of them within sonar range.

Then popped them all with a single active ping at the same time.

They had to have absolutely shit themselves. Not only did we know where they were, but our subs were so much quieter than theirs that we were able to park right behind them without them having the foggiest idea. We essentially just told them that we could've sunk every active submarine they had right then and there.

When the USSR fell and we got more of a presence in Russia, we learned that most of the 'big bad boogeyman' in Russia was a myth. Credit to them - they had us convinced with little more than bluffs and bravado. We'd have flattened the USSR in months.

theelusiveeightrop 02-10-2013 10:18 AM

So far, this is a must see. DVR it. Well worth it.

Buehler445 02-10-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9391288)
So far, this is a must see. DVR it. Well worth it.

I agree. There is a lot of opportunity to **** it all up, but it is a must see for me until they do. It's got me all wound up. DJ's Left Nut explained much more articulately than I can.

lewdog 02-10-2013 12:23 PM

Girlfriend and I DVRd it after I saw this thread. I am in. First two episodes were very good and love the twist with the new neighbor.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-10-2013 12:59 PM

Yeah, definately added to the rotation of few shows I watch. Still nothing worth a shit on the networks though!!

Frankie 02-10-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9391457)
Girlfriend and I DVRd it after I saw this thread. I am in. First two episodes were very good and love the twist with the new neighbor.

My DVR only recorded 8 minutes of episode 2. :(

They have been rebroadcasting all of the episodes EXCEPT THAT ONE!!!

But anyway, there has been a few shows that my wife and I started getting into only to see them cancelled. I'm tired of that shit. I have taken to DVRing new shows of intrigue and not watching them until I make sure they are hits. My external hard disc allows me to do that.

That said, the recorded Americans episodes that I have collected all have weird lengths, like 1:09 or 1:12 etc. What gives? Isn't this a one hour show?

Buehler445 02-15-2013 10:17 PM

Son of a bitch. This show is really good. I don't know if you guys are into the personal side of it from this episode, but I can't help but be drawn in. I'm so ****ing into this show.

Spoiler!

Bowser 02-16-2013 06:04 PM

Loving this show. Great stuff.

Interesting twist to the story to introduce Gregory into the equation.

DJ's left nut 02-17-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9406532)
Son of a bitch. This show is really good. I don't know if you guys are into the personal side of it from this episode, but I can't help but be drawn in. I'm so ****ing into this show.

Spoiler!

Honestly, I was just shocked the baby lived.

Gotta love watching skinny Phil continue to kick the shit out of people.

Fritz88 02-18-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9387064)
That's easily my favorite part. They're doing a spy show without all the spy gadgets. They're doing it at the ground level with the nasty, garote wire kinds of shit that actually happened. Seeing them do a spy show with technology that's 30 years old is really fascinating.

And it has some quick lines here and there that I think are just brilliant. "You and God have had a misunderstanding" was blood chilling and for some reason "Anyway...I took his caviar" and the delivery of it just cracked me up.



Yeah, we did. It's pretty staggering how much better we were than the Russians at almost everything. I read a story once that kinda combined both our spy network and our technology. The Russians were running subs off our coasts and thinking they were all discreet about it. We had a person inside that had intercepted the positions of the entire Soviet submarine fleet. So we put attack subs behind each one of them within sonar range.

Then popped them all with a single active ping at the same time.

They had to have absolutely shit themselves. Not only did we know where they were, but our subs were so much quieter than theirs that we were able to park right behind them without them having the foggiest idea. We essentially just told them that we could've sunk every active submarine they had right then and there.

When the USSR fell and we got more of a presence in Russia, we learned that most of the 'big bad boogeyman' in Russia was a myth. Credit to them - they had us convinced with little more than bluffs and bravado. We'd have flattened the USSR in months.


Interesting. I need to check out the show.

But do you really think that it would have been that easy? Months?

It was Stalin, after all, who pretty much took on Germany in WWII.
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KC native 02-18-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9412410)
Interesting. I need to check out the show.

But do you really think that it would have been that easy? Months?

It was Stalin, after all, who pretty much took on Germany in WWII.
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Yes, the USSR was collapsing for a long time. They were a paper tiger.

Baby Lee 02-21-2013 07:40 AM

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I can thank this show for opening my eyes to the biggest personal mondegreen of my life.

I had always thought that the 'Air Tonight' lyrics were 'I can feel it coming in the air tonight hold on'

Never once occurred to me that it was 'oh Lord'


ETA: Pedobear is dead, long live Pedobear

Buehler445 02-21-2013 11:59 PM

I loved this episode. The whole Reagan getting shot, brink of total war, brilliantly executed. And it did a fantastic job of working in the plot functions they were pushing. It is absolutely fascinating. I love it. I literally can't wait until the next episode.

PhillyChiefFan 02-22-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9424608)
I loved this episode. The whole Reagan getting shot, brink of total war, brilliantly executed. And it did a fantastic job of working in the plot functions they were pushing. It is absolutely fascinating. I love it. I literally can't wait until the next episode.

I liked how Phil found his balls when she jumped the gun and basically saved the world from diving into WWIII!!

PhillyChiefFan 02-22-2013 06:55 AM

And John Boy's got an attitude!

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2013 07:29 PM

FX Renews ‘The Americans’ For 2nd Season

Just four weeks into its first season, FX’s Cold War drama The Americans has been picked up for a Season 2 with a 13-episode order. “The Americans has quickly established itself as a key part FX’s acclaimed drama line-up,” FX president John Landgraf said in a statement. Debuting on January 30, The Americans stars Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell as two sleeper KGB spies posing as Americans in suburban Washington D.C. in the early Eighties. The show premiered strong with 3.22 million viewers, bettering debuts by fellow FX series Sons of Anarchy and American Horror Story. Ratings for the second week initially saw a steep decline but Live +3 data brought the show’s viewership up to 3.11 million viewers. Former CIA agent and Falling Skies scribe Joe Weisberg created the series and exec produces with Joel Fields, Graham Yost and Amblin TV’s Justin Falvey and Darryl Frank for Fox TV Studios and FX Prods. The first season finale airs May 1.

Baby Lee 02-22-2013 10:11 PM

When the head couple met in the hotel. Keri had a moment where she acted her ass off with her eyes. There were like 15 shifts, all of them more alluring. She really selling the act of falling in love.

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9412410)
Interesting. I need to check out the show.

But do you really think that it would have been that easy? Months?

It was Stalin, after all, who pretty much took on Germany in WWII.
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Yup. They would build one big, bad flagship for every class they had, be it bomber, gunboat or space shuttle. It would look scary as hell, be about 25% operational and would be the only one of the class even close to functional. They would leak its 'capabilities' and inflate numbers.

Most of the time they would have to mothball their scariest toys anyway. Even stuff like the Kirov class ships, which were scary sonsabitches, never worked right and are pretty much death traps. They only really used one of them for any extended period of time and spent billions on the other 3-4, which were decommissioned within a few years of launch.

The worst thing the Soviet Union could have done was try to keep pace with the US arms buildup through the 80s. They just didn't have the industrial capacity to do it efficiently so it ended up incredibly expensive for them and ultimately completely ineffective.

Reagan probably got a little bit lucky, but his policies throughout the 80s really did spend the USSR into oblivion. By the late 80s, everything they had was crap and they didn't have the financial wherewithal to maintain it. The Russians could've zagged, kept themselves more financially solvent as we were spending more than we had, and bought up US debt and potentially remained a legitimate threat to the United States. Instead they played our game and just weren't prepared to play it.

Yeah, we'd have probably maintained some presence in Russia for years thereafter, but storming and collapsing the Soviet Union wouldn't have taken us more than 6 months, IMO. The only wildcard would've been Chinese intervention, but at that point you have WWIII and who knows how that would've gone?

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9424608)
I loved this episode. The whole Reagan getting shot, brink of total war, brilliantly executed. And it did a fantastic job of working in the plot functions they were pushing. It is absolutely fascinating. I love it. I literally can't wait until the next episode.

I don't watch many television dramas, but I think this is my favorite one ever to this point. I wish the casting was a little different for the FBI agent neighbor, but then again his sort of goofy earnestness as a character actor makes it a little more interesting when he decides that he doesn't so much care if he gets a Russian office worker killed. Maybe it's better that he doesn't have that more assertive, authoritative way of carrying himself.

They've done a fantastic job of creating dynamic characters, especially Phil's. And Russel just coolly blasting that security guard (and the look Phil gave her) was just outstanding. And unlike most shows with the complex character development, stuff actually happens in this one.

Buehler445 02-23-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428271)
I don't watch many television dramas, but I think this is my favorite one ever to this point. I wish the casting was a little different for the FBI agent neighbor, but then again his sort of goofy earnestness as a character actor makes it a little more interesting when he decides that he doesn't so much care if he gets a Russian office worker killed. Maybe it's better that he doesn't have that more assertive, authoritative way of carrying himself.

They've done a fantastic job of creating dynamic characters, especially Phil's. And Russel just coolly blasting that security guard (and the look Phil gave her) was just outstanding. And unlike most shows with the complex character development, stuff actually happens in this one.

Yeah, looked at my buddy and said that's a damn cold bitch. It was excellently played.

PackerinMo 02-23-2013 04:04 PM

God Keri Russell is hot.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-23-2013 05:34 PM

Being a spy = ****ing like rabbits

theelusiveeightrop 02-24-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9429193)
Being a spy = ****ing like rabbits

Nice.

theelusiveeightrop 02-24-2013 05:23 PM

After the Dead, this is my favorite drama. Keri's eyes, OMG.

Silock 02-24-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428263)
Yup. They would build one big, bad flagship for every class they had, be it bomber, gunboat or space shuttle. It would look scary as hell, be about 25% operational and would be the only one of the class even close to functional. They would leak its 'capabilities' and inflate numbers.

Most of the time they would have to mothball their scariest toys anyway. Even stuff like the Kirov class ships, which were scary sonsabitches, never worked right and are pretty much death traps. They only really used one of them for any extended period of time and spent billions on the other 3-4, which were decommissioned within a few years of launch.

The worst thing the Soviet Union could have done was try to keep pace with the US arms buildup through the 80s. They just didn't have the industrial capacity to do it efficiently so it ended up incredibly expensive for them and ultimately completely ineffective.

Reagan probably got a little bit lucky, but his policies throughout the 80s really did spend the USSR into oblivion. By the late 80s, everything they had was crap and they didn't have the financial wherewithal to maintain it. The Russians could've zagged, kept themselves more financially solvent as we were spending more than we had, and bought up US debt and potentially remained a legitimate threat to the United States. Instead they played our game and just weren't prepared to play it.

Yeah, we'd have probably maintained some presence in Russia for years thereafter, but storming and collapsing the Soviet Union wouldn't have taken us more than 6 months, IMO. The only wildcard would've been Chinese intervention, but at that point you have WWIII and who knows how that would've gone?

Maybe, but you just can't underestimate the soviets. All of them fight. All the men. All the women. And they don't give up. Now, I'm not sure that Fedorchuk (probably not Gorbachev) would have given the order to shoot those who retreat, but it's not too far out of the realm of possibility.

And if we encountered any delay, those Russian winters are always a bitch to deal with. We would have been far better prepared than the French or Germans, but you never know.

There's no doubt we would have eventually won.

Braincase 02-24-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 9428945)
God Keri Russell is hot.

No shit. And wearing 80's era jeans? Damn. take me back to college and never look back. Guess, Calvin Kleins, YSL's and that ass.


Drool.


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