Dorner was last seen with an M60 outside of Brian Dennehey's house.

Just heard on the news this morning that he’s a military trained sniper too. Those guys are loners, taught to survive on their own by remaining concealed and only revealing their position by taking a single, well placed shot.
This guy is a big problem for any PD, they’re probably going to have to bring in some other military snipers to hunt him down.

haha yes

I have no doubt they will bring in snipers, but first they have to find him.

He was in the Navy. Yeah, they have SEAL training, but we have no reason to believe that this was his role or that he rec'd any other 'high-speed' training.

Something tells me that was a fair amount of sensationalizing at work by the media. He appears to be a qualified expert marksman, but if you gave me a week or so to get back into shooting form, I could possibly qualify expert as well. It takes a very good shot, but not a great one.

And being a qualified marksman damn sure doesn't make you a 'sniper' in the sense that we think of; a guy hiding in bushes with windage instruments covered in deer piss so he doesn't spook the local fauna.

He's going to be a tough target, but lets not act like he's about to start dropping guys at 1,000 meters or anything.

Poor form.

You couldn't find a clip from First Blood? The rest of them kinda sucked...

I believe the military has heat sensor devices they can point at the area he is in and pick up body movement and pin point him. Add a drone for watching him from above and shoot a missile at him. Technology is cool.

I wonder how far it would have to go before they brought the military in.

Actually I wanted a clip of Brian Dennehey but couldn't find one that was short.

They won't need military. They might need FBI because he may not even be in California anymore. But eventually he'll need money to keep going and someone's going to see him, and then they'll find him.

So you think that's how this is all going to play out, getting taken out with a drone missile? I highly doubt it.

Thought i heard that he'd only earned "marksman" on a rifle, thats the lowest rung of qualification in the army, as you know.

They better HOPE he isnt an actual sniper with a 50cal.

The wife is "up the mountain" right now.

I always get nervous when she makes her yearly trek back to Cali but this year my ass is a spaghetti press...

Just a possibility, but pin point him first and send in a sniper team would be how i would approach it.

He will crave a McRib at some point, and then, KAPOWWIE!

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If he was, he'd have never missed the first officers he shot at.

NewChief is right - we have a guy that was probably wronged, but who ultimately also has a hell of a persecution complex and delusions of grandeur. And yeah, I bet he was a bit of a militant prick that was no fun to work with. I'm sorry, Tiger - you may be good, but you ain't that good. You're not going to just get the LAPD to scrap their playbook because you've read it before. Even a shitty plan is going to work with large numbers and technology on their side.

Even if he does have a .50 cal, he's not going to shoulder-mount the thing and take on the National Guard. And seeing as how the only person he's actually managed to kill during this rampage was a woman and her boyfriend and not any of the armed, trained officers he's targeted, well something tells me the guy isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is.

He'd have been smarter to just steal another boat and tool down to Mexico.

Clamped very tight due to nervousness...

I may never eat spaghetti again...

There are enough nut jobs out there that will help him out.

Low carb is better anyway...

The McRib brings them in every time.....

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His job on his last deployment was to protect a fixed asset. He's not really what you probably think of when you hear "sniper." He's actually much more dangerous than that. He's been trained in a variety of skills including wilderness/urban survival, knowledge of high and low tech weaponry, tactics and strategy, military history and police procedure. The mention of his marksmanship rank is a ploy by the media to interject as much drama into this story as they can, what it really means is that he is proficient with his firearms. The truth is that if he doesn't want to be found...he won't be. The real danger is that (according to his manifesto) he's not hiding and trying to get away, he's maintaining a tactical position while inflicting the highest possible casualty rate. You should feel happy that he's not coming for you. I know that I wouldn't want to go after him. I seriously doubt that our military forces want to either. But they might have to eventually.

He doesn't need money.

My bets are on the McRib flushing him out

I'm not sure how he's "much more dangerous" than a sniper?

Did they bring it back again?

I heard they are just for this purpose

Cops are shooting up old ladies because they're driving a truck. This guy may be the sanest person in the equation.

Agreed, were he a sniper pretty much everyone he aimed at would be gone, particularly the two officers just across the intersection from him.

I bet they find him dead of a self-inflicted pretty soon.

He's more mobile, more knowledgeable, and better armed than a typical sniper.

He's a dead man.

That's kinda my thinking.

He's been too quiet for too long. I'm guessing they find him leaning up against a tree with half a dome here in the near future.

This.

He's got the best training in the world and he could hide under a refrigerator box with mud on his face and not even be noticed in an alley with his head down.

Him going all "Rambo" and taking to the woods sounds like BS to me...

Just stop. Your first sentence was fine. When you follow it with "But ...", you are excusing him.

He's a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath. There's no justification for his actions. None. There's no reason to feel one iota of sympathy for him. It doesn't matter if he feels like somebody wronged him: there's no excuse for him to be a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath, and anyone who roots for him in any way is a ****ing idiot.

I hope somebody shoots his dick off and he bleeds to death as slowly as painfully as possible.

This will drive a buddy of mine batshit insane. He's former active army (now a reserves Captain in Texas; his boys were actually doing the run/gun training in Houston that got everyone all pissed off). It drives him nuts to hear people talk about 'snipers' as though its the only thing they do.

'Sniper' isn't really a role; it's a qualification given to the highest of the high speed. In essence, you take a SEAL (or some other high-end unit, depending on the branch) that was already qualified in all that stuff, you see that he is a crack shot, then you send him out to a long-distance range every day until he can shoot flees off a dogs ass.

A 'Sniper' is going to have all the training you're discussing. That guy was trained to do all of that stuff well before he was given a big !@#$ing rifle and told to lay still for awhile. And if they took his big !@#$ing rifle away, he'd be more than capable of gutting you with a rock while surviving off his own piss.

He's a domestic terrorist.

LMAO

You act like this guy is Rambo or Jason Bourne.

Rambo is a very good comparison...

Exactly. I'm not trying to act like snipers are super soldiers, but they're far more dangerous than the average enlisted person (which, when all is said and done, this guy appears to be). Of course, he does have his years on the police force that gives him some knowledge, but I don't think his skill set is particularly daunting.

You can bet they are going to kill him without a trial.

I was going to say, what he is doing is being a real life Rambo.

He eats things that would make a billy goat puke!

Um, no. Rambo didn't systematically hunt down and murder innocent people just because they were family members of somebody he didn't like.

Those kind of nut jobs normally can't keep their mouths shut.

It's hard to get really worked up about that.

And I'm sure he knows that. So him someone does help him I doubt he leaves any loose ends.

Or Martin Riggs

"I once did a guy in Laos at a half mile with a heavy crosswind. Maybe 5 guys in the world could've made that shot. Killing is all I know."

Sure, not like a sniper can't do anything else. I'm saying that it's not what he's doing. He's arming himself differently than that, his "mission" is going to be more complicated than that, and he has more knowledge of his targets than a sniper typically would.

Nah. You don't have to be to do what he is doing.

If only the greatest sniper in United States history was still around to off him...

Damn you fate, damn you to hell...

Do we know where this guy was at when that went down?









:hmmm:

He's retired...

I disagree pretty vehemently here.

I'd like to hear this man speak to both his actions and his accusations. The people he's killed are dead and shall remain dead one way or the other. If one of the same triggerhappy ****s that just shot up a couple of asian women in a blue pickup when they were looking for a single large black man in a grey pickup blow the guy away, we've gained nothing as a group.

On the other hand, if the man faces trial and can somehow testify to this, we could either bring a great deal of corruption in the LAPD to light (which is the most likely scenario) or put the allegations to bed. Either way, it's a good thing for the rest of the country.

But it's not going to happen. I think he's already dead.

Not really. Rambo was a spec-ops operator this guy is not even close. He has the same training as Private in the USMC out of bootcamp.

Let's be honest he is a Navy guy (outside of SEALS) he can't be that dangerous.

.... permanently.

Yup.

Yeah, that's the feeling I'm starting to get of the guy as well.

I think Listo's overstating him a bit here. Again, if this guy was that hardcore, we'd already have 3 dead officers on our hands. Instead he just winged a couple of them and ran into hiding.

I have no doubt that his experience in the force and his training in the Navy will help him here. However, I don't think he'll be this scourge of South County now that the LAPD has had the chance to mobilize and respond.

The time for him to do his damage was at the start of the rampage. He could've done a lot of harm before the LAPD had the opportunity to counter-attack. Instead he took one shot, did a lousy job of it and then went into hiding.

I'm glad he's not hunting me, mind you. But at the same time, I don't think he's going to get anyone else either.

Upholding Rodney King's honor I guess...

Damn you. I like Listo's post much better as it makes for better theater so get on the boat with this dude is 1/4 of the A-Team of quit posting.

Let the service rivalries begin! ROFL

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if its a drinking contest on the other hand...

I’m just now catching up on this story but the report I heard around lunch was that he graduated, and served some time as a sniper. Of course that came from MSN so it may be FOS.

Sorry man but any further testimony by him is forfeit. I'm sure the dildo that held that kid captive recently had a lot to say as well, it needn't be heard. And yeah, offing himself would be a great way to beat thermal detection.

I'm wondering why he didn't go a more serial killer route. So far his grand revenge has killed one cop he doesn't know, two family members of someone he hates, and wounded paperboys. He'd probably see being a serial killer as dishonorable and would risk not getting his manifesto out in the public, but so far the strongest case he's making is "beware psychos."

PS: he did kill one officer yes? I thought he killed one and winged another.

damn DJ i have agreed with you all they way till now. i dont think he will kill himself.

he wants an apology. after that he might

He might as well kill himself because it's doubtful that he's ever getting one.

LOL. I'm trying to point out the differences between him and the "normal" people you meet every day. The most dangerous thing about him is that he has the will to do this and at that he has stated that he doesn't plan to live through it. He's willing to kill, he's motivated to do it, he is armed, and he is proficient with his weapons. He has a lot of livable territory to choose from. He has a huge variety of options available to him. He could already be dead. He could be hiding out in the mountains. He could be assimilated into a SoCal gang. He could be in a different state, even a different country, by now.

i agree he probably wont get one, but at this point why would he do it himself?

he wants to clear his name on the subject of his firing. that wont happen, in his mind at least, until they apologize. he said the killings dont stop until that point and seems like a determined guy

That's funny

what is funny?

that i think the guy is going to continue on just like he said he would?

It'll be interesting to see if he chooses to go down in a blaze of glory.....or if he systematically picks people off and then goes into hiding for long periods of time.

It's not about him and it's not about his right to speak truth to power.

It's about his allegations and the possibility that there is truth to them. I want him brought in so we can further dig into the merit of what he's saying for the protection of our citizenry.

Yes, his 'right' to further testify may be forfeit in your eyes, but why should we disregard our right to further investigate? He would be a visible catalyst and someone that would certainly ensure that these investigations take place.

If/when he dies, the investigations will be half-hearted internal reviews that whither up and die.

That army guy HAS to be guard, and a very poor guard unit at that, but this reminds me of a little saying i needle my son with...

My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

Our he could be at a Mcdonalds housing down a McRib, lg fry, and a strawberry shake. Too early for Shamrock Shakes.

Damn. Why did you have to bring up Shamrock Shakes? Now I want one.

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Can't imagine why this guy would think there's any sort of problem in that police force..... :hmmm:

I hear you, but if he is a catalyst, he's already set the reaction in motion. There's reporters and other people close to the workings of LAPD, if they can get something done, so be it. He should have spent more time writing people about the issues he has with LAPD and less time planning what he's done and giving a shoutout to Tebow.

I get that him being taken alive can keep his message in the spotlight longer, but what he wrote is not going to come up in his trial for any purpose other than convicting him, not convicting the LAPD.

Do you know why Marines ride on Navy vessels? Sheep would be too obvious.

I HAD BUDDIES DIE FACE DOWN IN THE MUCK SO YOU AND I COULD ENJOY THIS FAMILY RESTAURANT!