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The Poz 04-13-2013 11:37 AM

Chris Ivory up for grabs
 
Injury concerns? Yes.
Incredible gifted power runner? Yes.
If healthy, a great compliment to Jamal? Yes.
Would you trade a 4th or 5th for him? ***Insert your answer here***


"ESPN New York reports the Saints are indeed interested in trading restricted free agent Chris Ivory.
It's a key factor because New Orleans has held steadfastly to Ivory's rights to this point in his career despite underutilizing him, seemingly instead preferring to stash his talent. GM Mickey Loomis likely now realizes Ivory is headed for unrestricted free agency in 2014 and the Saints' best chance of receiving draft-pick compensation for him is now. ESPN New York's Rich Cimini suspects New Orleans would part with Ivory in exchange for a fourth-round pick."

BlackHelicopters 04-13-2013 11:39 AM

No. Thanks.

Bowser 04-13-2013 11:40 AM

I wanted to pick him up a couple of seasons ago when he was a FA. Kinda just 'meh' on him now.

Mr. Kotter 04-13-2013 11:44 AM

If we don't resign Hillis.... :hmmm:












I kee-d, I kee-d!!!

Brock 04-13-2013 11:46 AM

I'd much rather have him for nothing.

a pp roach 04-13-2013 12:46 PM

sure, 5th for ivory. **** it.

Rain Man 04-13-2013 12:48 PM

Seems like a good backup for a 4th, though I'd rather pay a 5th.

Hootie 04-13-2013 12:54 PM

I'd ship a 5th for him no problem. He's good. I think he's the best Saints running back.

Rain Man 04-13-2013 01:14 PM

Our fourth-round picks for the past 20 years, sorted in very rough order by NFL career success. The median guy is Donald Washington, and we have gotten a couple of gems.

Jared Allen
Donnie Edwards
Bracey Walker
Monty Beisel
Greg Favors
Samie Parker
Jaime Fields
Jalil Brown (Grade pending)
Larry Parker
Donald Washington
Steve Stenstrom
Devon Wylie (Grade pending)
Omar Easy
Will Franklin
Craphonso Thorpe
Frank Moreau
George Layne
Pat Barnes
Brett Williams

Our fifth-round picks for the past 20 years, sorted in very rough order by NFL career success. The median guy is Ricky Stanzi (grade pending).

Dante Hall
Joe Horn
Scott Fujita
Brandon Carr
Kendrick Lewis
Jordan Black
Derrick Blaylock
Patrick Dennis
Boomer Grigsby
Justin Medlock
Rob Waldrop
Cameron Sheffield
Ricky Stanzi (Grade pending)
Robert Williams
Lindsey Knapp
Gabe Miller (Grade pending)
DeQuan Menzie (Grade pending)
Billy Baber
James Burton
Mike Pelton
June Henley
Colin Brown
Jarrott Willard
Alphonso Hodge
Marcus Maxey

I initially did this because I figured the 4th round would have produced more legitimate roster guys than the 5th round, but the truth is there's not much difference. Five of 19 guys in the fourth round had long careers, and 2 were starters. It looks like 7 of 25 fifth-rounders had long careers, with five of them starting.

So I guess I'm wrong that the 4th round is a lot better than the 5th round. Maybe we should always trade our 4th round pick for a 5th and 7th or something.

Hootie 04-13-2013 01:17 PM

Mr. Rain Man,

I've been making that point for years and years and years and years.

4th-7th round picks don't mean anything...they are simply roster filler picks with a 3 quarter shot swish chance of being a Jared Allen.

which is why I LOL LOL LOL at the drafturbators when they start crying about trading a future 7th round pick to trade back into the 7th round to draft Jake O'Connell

it's the most ridiculous bitching in the history of bitching

bitch about your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks...

don't cry about anything after that...just sit back, relax, and enjoy a DELICIOUS MILLER LITE

Rain Man 04-13-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9583537)
Mr. Rain Man,

I've been making that point for years and years and years and years.

4th-7th round picks don't mean anything...they are simply roster filler picks with a 3 quarter shot swish chance of being a Jared Allen.

which is why I LOL LOL LOL at the drafturbators when they start crying about trading a future 7th round pick to trade back into the 7th round to draft Jake O'Connell

it's the most ridiculous bitching in the history of bitching

bitch about your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks...

don't cry about anything after that...just sit back, relax, and enjoy a DELICIOUS MILLER LITE

Now I want to do more analysis. Maybe you should always trade down on these picks and try to get more chances to win.

It seems like 7th round picks very rarely make it, though. I wonder if the system only works to a certain point.

Hootie 04-13-2013 01:30 PM

what you should do is trade all of your 5th round picks for 4th round picks one year...and then the next year trade those 4th round picks for 3rd round picks

rinse, wash, repeat

Bump 04-13-2013 01:31 PM

no thanks. I'd rather get a guy that's similar in style to JC than go with some power + speed combo that keeps you predictable.

houstonwhodat 04-13-2013 03:34 PM

The Saints need him, he's much better than Mark Ingram.

A good one two punch is Pierre Thomas & Chris Ivory.

If you have a chance to sign him and need a bruising RB get him.

We don't want him in the NFC South if he doesn't resign with the Saints.


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