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Chiefspants 11-16-2017 10:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One thing I learned at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLB</a> GM Meetings: not only do GMs use emojis when texting about deals, some have been known to respond to trade offers with choice GIFs</p>&mdash; Ben Nicholson-Smith (@bnicholsonsmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/931194473513734145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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suzzer99 11-16-2017 10:32 PM

Rany has the chance of retaining Hosmer at 25%. Seems high.

kcchiefsus 11-17-2017 12:58 PM

It looks like we got the 36th overall pick for the competitive balance round. We could have 5 picks in the first 50. I still don't have much faith Dayton and co. can find the right guys or that our minor league system can successfully develop them.

DJ's left nut 11-17-2017 02:22 PM

Thought this was kindof an interesting take on Hosmer. Granted, I'm not vested in him and it mirrors my position but it may also be a little bit of salve for Royals fans in the likely event he leaves...

https://www.101sports.com/2017/11/16...on-vs-reality/

The thesis:

Quote:

Hosmer is an inkblot talent … when folks look at him, they’ll see whatever the hell they want to see based on bias or just personal preference.

Hosmer fanatics probably think he’s a poor man’s Joey Votto.

Hosmer skeptics put him slightly above, say, Matt Adams.
And he's right in the respect that there aren't a lot of people in the middle on him. He's one of the stranger, more polarizing FAs we've seen in awhile. I'd say Heyward was something similar in that people questioned if he was worth what his WAR says he is, what was his potential worth and just how valuable was his production since it oft lagged in traditional areas.

Heyward was obviously a gamble lost and Hosmer appears to be in a similar territory to me.

duncan_idaho 11-17-2017 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13221720)
Thought this was kindof an interesting take on Hosmer. Granted, I'm not vested in him and it mirrors my position but it may also be a little bit of salve for Royals fans in the likely event he leaves...

https://www.101sports.com/2017/11/16...on-vs-reality/

The thesis:



And he's right in the respect that there aren't a lot of people in the middle on him. He's one of the stranger, more polarizing FAs we've seen in awhile. I'd say Heyward was something similar in that people questioned if he was worth what his WAR says he is, what was his potential worth and just how valuable was his production since it oft lagged in traditional areas.

Heyward was obviously a gamble lost and Hosmer appears to be in a similar territory to me.


Oh, I think he will, and I think the Royals could better allocate the overall funds it would take for him (unless they really can afford to sign both Hosmer and Moustakas), but I think Carlos Santana is an interesting comparison for Hosmer.

Santana has definitely benefited from playing in a great park for LH power while Hosmer has played in a park that saps power.

What would Santana's numbers look like playing at Kaufman Stafium full time? Well, over the past five years, the ESPN HR tracker shows that 25 of Santana's HR would not have left the K. Many of them would have been routine outs in right field. If you convert all of those to outs , Santana looks much different. He'll, just converting 15 makes him look a ton different.

The defensive first base metrics are also totally ****ed. I don't care what the stats guys say, if they can say something SO different from what all the scouts and players see (which is that Hosmer is an excellent defensive first baseman, particularly adept at scoops, stretches, and catches outside his normal radius, with quick feet and the ability to adjust), there's something wrong.

He definitely has some risk associated with him. I laugh a little when I see articles speculating that Hosmer could be convinced to change his swing to hit more fly balls (good luck with that. Better convince his brother the professional fireman to do it, or it isn't happening).

Those are just things that stand out from the counterpoints Miklasz presented.

That said, I'll take the 32nd pick in the MLB draft, and what I can buy with the 6-7 years of $21 million a year (for starters, I'm thinking Carlos Gomez and Logan Morrison on 2-3 year deals).

duncan_idaho 11-17-2017 08:26 PM

2018 Offseason Repo is posted. I'll get to Prospects soon, probably over the holidays.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=311616

KChiefs1 11-17-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13222161)
2018 Offseason Repo is posted. I'll get to Prospects soon, probably over the holidays.



http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=311616



Thanks!

suzzer99 11-17-2017 10:15 PM

Last!

SAUTO 11-17-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13222246)
Last!

Nope

HemiEd 11-18-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13222248)
Nope

Nope

KCUnited 11-18-2017 07:17 AM

There’s less aids in this one.

Pablo 11-18-2017 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13222429)
There’s less aids in this one.

:clap:

cabletech94 11-18-2017 07:29 AM

one last post from me.

r.i.p. a great run.

time to begin anew.

duncan_idaho 11-18-2017 10:57 AM

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