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siberian khatru 02-27-2013 02:28 PM

Mellinger: Chiefs better with Smith, but ghosts of past QB failures linger
 
Chiefs better with Smith, but ghosts of past QB failures linger

By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star


John Dorsey met his wife here. They had barbecue on the Country Club Plaza, a poetically Kansas City way to fall in love. When he became the Chiefs’ new general manager last month, he famously called it his dream job. He doesn’t need to ask anyone for directions here. He knows Kansas City.

Or thought he did, at least.

Judged in a vacuum, the Chiefs just made themselves better. That’s Dorsey’s job, to make the football team better. Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn tag-teamed an awful quarterback situation for the Chiefs last season, and Dorsey knew he had to fix this before anything else.

Trading for Alex Smith — who took the 49ers within a whisker of the Super Bowl two years ago and was the league’s leading passer when he got hurt last year — makes the Chiefs better. To win games in 2013, this was the Chiefs’ best available option. Dorsey is a football man, so this is all he’s concerned with.

What he couldn’t have known is that the baggage Chiefs fans come by honestly means one of the most important decisions he and new coach Andy Reid will ever make here cannot be judged in a vacuum. Impossible.

Chiefs fans have been in an emotionally abusive relationship with quarterbacks for most of the last 40 years, and that’s not stopping now. Kansas City greeted Dorsey and Reid with everything but a parade — remember the Chiefs’ “Welcome Coach” commercial? — so if you’re keeping track, the honeymoon lasted eight weeks for Reid and seven for Dorsey.

In a football sense, the trade makes sense. The Chiefs have the first pick in April’s NFL Draft, but no amount of desperation or references about Todd Blackledge being the last homegrown quarterback to win a game for the Chiefs is going to turn rookie-to-be Geno Smith into Andrew Luck. There are no great options for teams needing quarterback help this offseason.

Dorsey was in the Packers’ circle of trust when they used a first-round pick on Aaron Rodgers despite Brett Favre still being a star. Reid used his first pick with the Eagles on Donovan McNabb, but still drafted five more quarterbacks (and added Michael Vick on a free-agent contract) to fortify the position.

There is nothing in Dorsey’s and Reid’s disposition or track record to suggest they have somehow contracted a *****an level of commitment to the franchise’s new import quarterback.

Except, that’s not how it’s taken by a large chunk of the new leadership’s constituency. This is a fiercely passionate fan base that often expects the worst, especially from quarterbacks, and they’ve seen this movie before: San Francisco Quarterback Comes to KC, Part Four.

That means there are few clean, objective opinions on this in Kansas City. Smith’s limitations will be talked about more than his potential. He is a borderline brilliant man — graduated with an economics degree in 2½ years while playing college football — who nearly set the NFL’s record for completion percentage last year. But he is also injury-prone, and now in a system that will likely have him taking more hits.

Smith is smart and especially accurate in short and intermediate routes, but the team that knows him best discarded him at the first opportunity for what was then a second-year backup who hadn’t proved anything. Smith excelled under current 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, which clouds the way he was figuratively jerked around by San Francisco’s coaches his first five seasons.

In the end, Smith is an upgrade from what the Chiefs had and anything else they were likely to get for 2013. He’s still in his 20s, and two longtime NFL personnel men described him as “an ascending player” in separate conversations on Wednesday. The most clear-headed take is that Smith is an improvement in the short-term and uninspiring in the long-term and is costing too much for the risk.

But the bigger problem for Dorsey and Reid is they are effectively rerunning the same script in Kansas City that’s about to celebrate a 20-year anniversary since the Chiefs’ last playoff win. They are taking fans on the same date that’s ended up in tears so many times before.

That’s not Dorsey’s or Reid’s fault, and probably not even something they should be concerned with. But it is something they’ll have to deal with in their new hometown.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/27...ut-ghosts.html

ptlyon 02-27-2013 02:36 PM

Sam, drop the ****ing hammer!

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-27-2013 03:04 PM

not to mention the previous administration did exactly the same ****ing thing at LESS cost...
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RealSNR 02-27-2013 03:10 PM

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But the bigger problem for Dorsey and Reid is they are effectively rerunning the same script in Kansas City that’s about to celebrate a 20-year anniversary since the Chiefs’ last playoff win. They are taking fans on the same date that’s ended up in tears so many times before.

That’s not Dorsey’s or Reid’s fault, and probably not even something they should be concerned with. But it is something they’ll have to deal with in their new hometown.
Wrong. ****ing wrong. Dead wrong.

2bikemike 02-27-2013 03:10 PM

Seems pretty spot on. Its gonna be a long season for Alex Smith if he doesn't start hot.

Reerun_KC 02-27-2013 03:13 PM

Alex Smith is gonna get ripped by the Fans...

dude has no idea what its gonna be like.

oldandslow 02-27-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9446834)
Wrong. ****ing wrong. Dead wrong.

Why? They could care less what you think....Opening day the stands will be full...win a couple (which they will) and the town will turn red.

Dayze 02-27-2013 03:14 PM

"I'll take 'Real QBs Under Center' Alex"

ptlyon 02-27-2013 03:17 PM

I hope the 1st thing alex does is get on the phone & call matt to see how it feels to be a kc qb so he doesn't get his feelers hurt

RealSNR 02-27-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 9446876)
Why? They could care less what you think....Opening day the stands will be full...win a couple (which they will) and the town will turn red.

Not being concerned with history led to this abortion of a trade.

What's ****ing next? Are we going to spend 3 of our next 4 first rounders on defensive linemen? I know Andy likes drafting defensive linemen a lot, so he probably shouldn't be too concerned with history or anything with his new team.

Fish 02-27-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9446865)
Alex Smith is gonna get ripped by the Fans...

dude has no idea what its gonna be like.

Yeah, poor dude has no idea how much pressure is going to be applied this season. If/when he fails, he's going to catch it hard core. Even Cassel will be like "Whoa you guys, that's harsh."

Namor40 02-27-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9446865)
Alex Smith is gonna get ripped by the Fans...

dude has no idea what its gonna be like.


LOL, dude's probably got the thickest skin in the NFL, if after what he went through in SF didn't break him, I don't think KC fans got a chance.


This is guy who:


-Was thrown in as a starter with absolutely no talent on his team, not at WR, not at OL, not at RB, literally started his first year for the worst team in the NFL.

-He ended up tearing his shoulder, eventually would needed season-ending injury, but ended up being bad-mouthed by his then coach and excoriated in the media by not being tough enough to play with a torn shoulder.

-He went through a different offensive coordinator every single year of his career for his first six seasons.

-He was coached by a guy in Mike Singletary who said that QB was "merely just another position out on the field."

-He took massive beatings behind one of the most porous OL's in football and kept getting back up on his feet.

-He got literally booed off the field at home and replaced by David Carr. Following that game, he came back to go on and play the best football of his career up until Jim Harbaugh was hired where he finally had a supportive head coach and amazingly enough, he thrived.



I don't think Alex Smith is much too concerned with the fans reactions towards him, if he plays his game, he'll win the fanbase over.

donkhater 02-27-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9446467)
There is nothing in Dorsey’s and Reid’s disposition or track record to suggest they have somehow contracted a *****an level of commitment to the franchise’s new import quarterback.

This is the only line in the whole article that keeps me from throwing my hands in total digust with this move. At the moment I don't think either Dorsey or Reid have the ego that Pioli had that would keep them from moving on from Smith should he pull a Cassel. But time will tell.

Reerun_KC 02-27-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9446940)
Yeah, poor dude has no idea how much pressure is going to be applied this season. If/when he fails, he's going to catch it hard core. Even Cassel will be like "Whoa you guys, that's harsh."

ROFL

Fish 02-27-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Namor40 (Post 9446983)
LOL, dude's probably got the thickest skin in the NFL, if after what he went through in SF didn't break him, I don't think KC fans got a chance.


This is guy who:


-Was thrown in as a starter with absolutely no talent on his team, not at WR, not at OL, not at RB, literally started his first year for the worst team in the NFL.

-He ended up tearing his shoulder, eventually would needed season-ending injury, but ended up being bad-mouthed by his then coach and excoriated in the media by not being tough enough to play with a torn shoulder.

-He went through a different offensive coordinator every single year of his career for his first six seasons.

-He was coached by a guy in Mike Singletary who said that QB was "merely just another position out on the field."

-He took massive beatings behind one of the most porous OL's in football and kept getting back up on his feet.

-He got literally booed off the field at home and replaced by David Carr. Following that game, he came back to go on and play the best football of his career up until Jim Harbaugh was hired where he finally had a supportive head coach and amazingly enough, he thrived.



I don't think Alex Smith is much too concerned with the fans reactions towards him, if he plays his game, he'll win the fanbase over.

So let's recap...

-He couldn't make his team better with his play, and obviously had to rely on a great deal of help around him.

-He's had several season-ending injuries.

-He went through 5 coordinators before anybody could get any success out of him.

-He took massive beatings.

-He was booed off the field and replaced by David ****ing Carr.

-Harbaugh was the only coach who could get any production.

Is this bullshit supposed to make anyone feel better about the trade?


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