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BossChief 02-27-2015 07:12 PM

An outside the box idea for the Eric Berry situation
 
It sucks to lose a guy like Berry to something out of everyone's control. I want to see the Chiefs handle the situation by taking care of Eric while also giving us cap space because the guy has a 8.4m cap number.

I think the best move would be to give the guy a contract extension.

Take his base salary for 2015 ...5,155,000 and the workout bonus of 300,000 and make that his signing bonus for a new 6 year deal.Put a reasonable roster bonus in there for 2016 and hope and pray he comes back.

What this does for Berry:

He gets every dime he would have gotten this upcoming year in one lump sum to help him fight this thing. Gives him a open door to return to action once he can return. Lets him know the Chiefs are 100% in his corner.

What this does for KC:

PR win.
Saves about 4m off this years cap
Ensures he stays in KC if he can return in a year.

There are other benefits and drawbacks, but I thought this kind of thing would be the best way to handle the Eric Berry situation.

Thoughts?

Nightfyre 02-27-2015 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11351665)
I agree with all your points boss - but NFI him each year and don't pay him the salary. This will allow him to keep the 5.5M spread out over five years and give us rights to him when he gets back and only take a 1.1M hit against the cap each year.

From the other thread.

notorious 02-27-2015 07:15 PM

Pay him under the table.

BossChief 02-27-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11351679)
Pay him under the table.

The new spokesperson for hunt industries: Eric Berry

notorious 02-27-2015 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11351681)
The new spokesperson for hunt industries: Eric Berry

Works for me.

Mr. Laz 02-27-2015 08:44 PM

restructure the deal to make yearly base a bonus so that it gets paid all up front

put Berry on NFI

he only counts against cap in a pro-rated way, but still gets paid

roster slot is opened up but he is still on team

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-27-2015 09:18 PM

Have some "media members" tell their "friends" about rumors of Berry's violent occurrences. Maybe that will get the Chiefs off the hook.

Buehler445 02-27-2015 11:27 PM

Any and all sounds good.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-27-2015 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 11351823)
Have some "media members" tell their "friends" about rumors of Berry's violent occurrences. Maybe that will get the Chiefs off the hook.

:)

AustinChief 02-28-2015 02:37 AM

um, or we can not jump the gun and see how his recovery goes. There is a VERY good chance he will play in 2015. Maybe not right away but after week 6.

There have been athletes who have recovered within MONTHS from Hodgkins lymphoma. At this point, I prefer not to count Berry out.

notorious 02-28-2015 08:05 AM

Hope for the best, but expect the worst, Mr. AustinC.


This is the Chiefs after all.

BossChief 02-28-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 11352027)
um, or we can not jump the gun and see how his recovery goes. There is a VERY good chance he will play in 2015. Maybe not right away but after week 6.

There have been athletes who have recovered within MONTHS from Hodgkins lymphoma. At this point, I prefer not to count Berry out.

If he returns, then he's already under contract with an extension in place.

gblowfish 02-28-2015 10:59 AM

I'm only concerned with EB's life. I don't care if he ever plays football again. That's pretty much irrelevant when facing a life threatening disease. I just hope he lives a full and happy life, and sticks around for many years.

Rausch 02-28-2015 11:01 AM

I really, really want to believe KC will take care of Berry but they won't.

They'll kick him out a speeding buss and if he survives after 10 years they'll wheel him out at half time...

Rausch 02-28-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11352319)
I'm only concerned with EB's life.

This...

BossChief 07-31-2015 09:31 AM

Kiss my ass, Hootie.

ModSocks 07-31-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 11352027)
um, or we can not jump the gun and see how his recovery goes. There is a VERY good chance he will play in 2015. Maybe not right away but after week 6.

There have been athletes who have recovered within MONTHS from Hodgkins lymphoma. At this point, I prefer not to count Berry out.

....oooooo.....

BossChief 07-31-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 11352027)
um, or we can not jump the gun and see how his recovery goes. There is a VERY good chance he will play in 2015. Maybe not right away but after week 6.

There have been athletes who have recovered within MONTHS from Hodgkins lymphoma. At this point, I prefer not to count Berry out.

:thumb:

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11629273)
Kiss my ass, Hootie.

Be careful. Hootie will literally take you up on that while simultaneously peeing on you.

Hootie 07-31-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11629273)
Kiss my ass, Hootie.

Not the link I'm talking about. I want the one where Dane went all high and mighty about the NFL being a business

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629351)
Not the link I'm talking about. I want the one where Dane went all high and mighty about the NFL being a business

Why don't you learn how to use the search function yourself?

Oh yeah: Too ****ing stupid.

Duh.

BossChief 07-31-2015 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629351)
Not the link I'm talking about. I want the one where Dane went all high and mighty about the NFL being a business

Oh, I'm shocked that your high school ass was talking out of it, again.

Btw I bumped the other thread where I put down the notion of cutting him and instead either extending him or placing him on the NFI list (same as they did in 2014 and I've said all along. Sorry you don't understand the meaning of that)

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11629373)
Oh, I'm shocked that your high school ass was talking out of it, again.

Btw I bumped the other thread where I put down the notion of cutting him and instead either extending him or placing him on the NFI list (same as they did in 2014 and I've said all along. Sorry you don't understand the meaning of that)

Hootie thinks he's an expert on every subject.

Hootie believes that all 12 balls in the Deflategate investigation were under-inflated by one pound per square inch.

Hootie believes that he has so-called "Football Knowledge" but in reality, it's called Sports Trivia and he's often wrong.

Hootie is the typical dumbass drunk at the end of the bar that's constantly muttering to himself yet thinks he's part of the greater conversation.

Hootie is a ****ing loser.

BossChief 07-16-2016 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11351674)
It sucks to lose a guy like Berry to something out of everyone's control. I want to see the Chiefs handle the situation by taking care of Eric while also giving us cap space because the guy has a 8.4m cap number.

I think the best move would be to give the guy a contract extension.

Take his base salary for 2015 ...5,155,000 and the workout bonus of 300,000 and make that his signing bonus for a new 6 year deal.Put a reasonable roster bonus in there for 2016 and hope and pray he comes back.

What this does for Berry:

He gets every dime he would have gotten this upcoming year in one lump sum to help him fight this thing. Gives him a open door to return to action once he can return. Lets him know the Chiefs are 100% in his corner.

What this does for KC:

PR win.
Saves about 4m off this years cap
Ensures he stays in KC if he can return in a year.

There are other benefits and drawbacks, but I thought this kind of thing would be the best way to handle the Eric Berry situation.

Thoughts?

This might have worked out

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2016 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12318947)
This might have worked out

He and his agent would have never gone for it

It's clear that either they have unreasonable expectations or that he wants out of KC.

Either way, he's gone.

Red Dawg 07-16-2016 11:19 PM

Berry is as good as gone. I just hope he raises his level of play this year looking for his 12 mil elsewhere.

Chiefshrink 07-17-2016 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11351674)
It sucks to lose a guy like Berry to something out of everyone's control. I want to see the Chiefs handle the situation by taking care of Eric while also giving us cap space because the guy has a 8.4m cap number.

I think the best move would be to give the guy a contract extension.

Take his base salary for 2015 ...5,155,000 and the workout bonus of 300,000 and make that his signing bonus for a new 6 year deal.Put a reasonable roster bonus in there for 2016 and hope and pray he comes back.

What this does for Berry:

He gets every dime he would have gotten this upcoming year in one lump sum to help him fight this thing. Gives him a open door to return to action once he can return. Lets him know the Chiefs are 100% in his corner.

What this does for KC:

PR win.
Saves about 4m off this years cap
Ensures he stays in KC if he can return in a year.

There are other benefits and drawbacks, but I thought this kind of thing would be the best way to handle the Eric Berry situation.

Thoughts?

You are a genius !!!!:clap:

Chiefshrink 07-17-2016 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12318997)
He and his agent would have never gone for it

It's clear that either they have unreasonable expectations or that he wants out of KC.

Either way, he's gone.

He didn't want out of KC. I think he and his camp thought he was more valuable than he really is and now he just legislated himself right out of KC inadvertently I'm afraid after this upcoming season.

DaneMcCloud 07-17-2016 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12319037)
He didn't want out of KC.

The mere fact that neither side was ever close during these negotiations proves that he wanted out.

"Wanting out" doesn't mean bias, it means he wanted to go somewhere that would pay him what he believes he's worth and the Chiefs weren't willing to pay that price.

Chiefshrink 07-17-2016 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12319039)
The mere fact that neither side was ever close during these negotiations proves that he wanted out.

"Wanting out" doesn't mean bias, it means he wanted to go somewhere that would pay him what he believes he's worth and the Chiefs weren't willing to pay that price.

I see your point but I think this is a unique situation where Berry struggled being on the field with his injury and having cancer and not living up to the Ed Reed/Polamalu type of hype and play we thought we were getting when we originally drafted him. Yet he is a great team leader on and off the field while fending off cancer at the moment and playing solidly but really not 5th overall pick play but yet winning the comeback player of the year can play with your ego and you can overestimate yourself very easily. He was the first one with the shot across the bow. If the shot had never come then I would agree with your theory. He vastly overestimated his playing worth to this team. Mgmt sees him as good. Berry sees himself as great. Good doesn't get you the $$.

DaneMcCloud 07-17-2016 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12319049)
I see your point but I think this is a unique situation where Berry struggled being on the field with his injury and having cancer and not living up to the Ed Reed/Polamalu type of hype and play we thought we were getting when we originally drafted him. Yet he is a great team leader on and off the field while fending off cancer at the moment and playing solidly but really not 5th overall pick play but yet winning the comeback player of the year can play with your ego and you can overestimate yourself very easily. He was the first one with the shot across the bow. If the shot had never come then I would agree with your theory. He vastly overestimated his playing worth to this team. Mgmt sees him as good. Berry sees himself as great. Good doesn't get you the $$.

The bottom line is that in choosing not to negotiate in good faith, he sealed his fate.

That was a conscious choice. He wasn't a victim of circumstance.


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