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Pitt Gorilla 10-05-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15218123)
Sure but I'd rather avoid him being in the conference especially on a younger team with a ton of cap space.

Yeah, I get that, but I love what Miami is doing (as an NFL fan). It's what everyone does when playing GM mode on Madden, but it's playing out in real life. Will they do it better than the 76ers?

notorious 10-05-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15218111)
I hate that argument for trading away high picks. If draft picks weren't important, they wouldn't be used in trades as often as they are.

"Picks are a crapshoot." Yeah, Colin? You're telling me they're such a crapshoot that it's just as likely that two consecutive 1st rounders will bust as it is this LT you traded for will be healthy and productive for all of those seasons? If that's the case, then your team REALLLY sucks at drafting, and the personnel dept needs a huge ass overhaul.

Colin looks at the trend and puts his opinion on the opposite side.

People were correct when they shit on this trade, but Colin saw opportunity and went the opposite direction.

That’s why I stopped listening. He is a smart guy, and his real opinions are good enough to carry his show, but he changed years ago. Now his opinion is directly driven by their metrics and ratings. He is a slightly less douchey Skip Bayless now.

RINGLEADER 10-05-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15218029)
The Dolphins are another good draft and Tua working out from making NE a 3rd place team every year.

What if Miami ends up with the first pick courtesy of the Texans?

Do they stand by Tua or make a move for Trevor?

Sticking with Tua means they could flip a first pick to some team for another couple firsts and seconds or pick the best available.

Pitt Gorilla 10-05-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15218130)
Colin looks at the trend and puts his opinion on the opposite side.

People were correct when they shit on this trade, but Colin saw opportunity and went the opposite direction.

That’s why I stopped listening. He is a smart guy, and his real opinions are good enough to carry his show, but he changed years ago. Now his opinion is directly driven by their metrics and ratings. He is a slightly less douchey Skip Bayless now.

I honestly don't know if I could tell them apart.

Mecca 10-05-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 15218132)
What if Miami ends up with the first pick courtesy of the Texans?

Do they stand by Tua or make a move for Trevor?

Sticking with Tua means they could flip a first pick to some team for another couple firsts and seconds or pick the best available.

We were just talking about that...it would be bad if they had that 1 because of Tua is their guy they can trade that pick for a ransom.

Deberg_1990 10-05-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 15218132)
What if Miami ends up with the first pick courtesy of the Texans?

Do they stand by Tua or make a move for Trevor?

Sticking with Tua means they could flip a first pick to some team for another couple firsts and seconds or pick the best available.

That’s why Miami needs to start playing Tua right now.

notorious 10-05-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15218135)
I honestly don't know if I could tell them apart.

The difference between them shrinks more every day.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15218127)
Texans fans should begin flying banners. But I’ve said many times, their fan base isn’t real passionate.

That happens when your real team relocates to Tennessee.

Direckshun 10-05-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15218096)
People need to stop with the "picks are a crapshoot" nonsense. I suppose they are when your GM doesn't actually do his homework, but they don't have to be.

Even good GMs, though, have issues.

There's a middle ground. Think of it this way -- I stole this shamelessly from someone else.

The draft is basically darts.

The 1st round, you are really close to the dartboard. Then with each successive round, you're backing away and throwing it farther and farther. By the time you're in the 7th round, you're just hoping to hit the board, forget hitting a bullseye.

Deberg_1990 10-05-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15218144)
That happens when your real team relocates to Tennessee.

That’s part of it. NFL should have done them like the Browns. Left all the Oilers history and brand with Houston

notorious 10-05-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15218146)

The draft is basically darts.

The 1st round, you are really close to the dartboard. Then with each successive round, you're backing away and throwing it farther and farther. By the time you're in the 7th round, you're just hoping to hit the board, forget hitting a bullseye.


Veach throwing darts:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6429...itemid=7599039

htismaqe 10-05-2020 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15218153)

Hardly.

If that's Dorsey playing darts then this is Veach.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....gif&f=1&nofb=1

notorious 10-05-2020 11:57 AM

OBrien throwing darts:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2368...itemid=5028507

notorious 10-05-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15218155)
Hardly.

If that's Dorsey playing darts then this is Veach.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....gif&f=1&nofb=1

Fixed. Sigh

RealSNR 10-05-2020 12:04 PM

Yeah, I agree. If I'm driving when Cowherd is on, I'll still listen because he's an entertaining radio jockey, but he can't seem to not douche it up.

An example would be he takes a reasonable take like, "The team and the environment matter more than how high you're drafted in the NFL, because if your GM is Ryan Grigson, not even Andrew Luck can avoid dying in that situation."

But now he's warped it into, "The environment you're drafted into matters in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes got Andy Reid and a great GM and a lot of weapons, so now he's super successful and Sam Darnold has to eat shit."

If Sam Darnold were on Mahomes' level, he might still be losing football games in his situation, but he'd at least be far more respected as a QB than he is. The NFL would treat him like they do Philip Rivers or Matt Stafford. At some point Colin has to just admit that his boy Darnold sucks... or at the very least was a QB who was VERY dependent on the situation he got drafted into, unlike some players...


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