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the Talking Can 01-20-2013 10:53 AM

Players you like that the Chiefs won't draft
 
this is really just a way of asking which players you like in the draft, beyond the obvious one's the Chiefs might be looking at...

I mostly watch sec and big 12, so there are a ton of players I know nothing about, particularly in later rounds...

but, to the premise...players the Chiefs are unlikely to draft due to round or need....so

I love ogletree from UGA (ILB)...he was just coming into his own at the end of the year, and will have a longer more productive career than Jones (and clowns te'o)

he isn't a need like QB,CB,S and is being mocked mid-first (but if he slipped, I'd take him)

KCFaninSEA 01-20-2013 11:00 AM

D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

ArrowheadMagic 01-20-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9334986)
D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

This. S Matt Elam.. ILB Niko Johnson.. One of the top 2 TE's ... RB Stephan Taylor.

The Franchise 01-20-2013 11:13 AM

Braxton Cave, C, ND

alanm 01-20-2013 11:44 AM

Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska

Big Chief Homer 01-20-2013 12:15 PM

Oregon State Cb Jordan Poyer projected last I checked early 2nd round

Titty Meat 01-20-2013 12:24 PM

Montee Ball

Buehler445 01-20-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 9335091)
Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska

Burkhead is a pretty decent little back. I like the way he runs, but don't know if he's big enough. Where is he projected?

alanm 01-20-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9335186)
Burkhead is a pretty decent little back. I like the way he runs, but don't know if he's big enough. Where is he projected?

He's big enough. He fluctuates between 210 and 220. If he hadn't missed most all the season with a sprained MCL he would of probably had a great senior year. I've heard he's projected in the 3 or 4th rnd. I've a feeling he's one of those guys that are destined to end up playing for the Patriots. I think Pelini has a pipeline set up with Bellichek.

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9334986)
D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

Ceej 01-20-2013 05:09 PM

I think the appropriate answer is: all of the good ones.

Sfeihc 01-20-2013 05:38 PM

Dion Sims, TE, MSU

KCFaninSEA 01-20-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9336183)
Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

Never said the ones you mentioned weren't needed. All are, but the receivers on this team are awful. Baldwin is a heck of a lot worse at his position than Lewis is. Baldwin just disappears. Bowe has his moments and getting somebody else to take the double teams off of him will open things up for whoever is calling signals. Last in passing this year. Most of that is the QB play, no question, but the crappy receivers we have need to share some blame there. Now, if Bowe leaves, that compounds the issue immensely. Try not to worry about a backup QB until one is found that can produce as a starter. There is no guarantee that any QB acquired, whether it be in the draft, FA or a trade will be productive. Hope so but......

Jewish Rabbi 01-20-2013 07:22 PM

Geno

AussieChiefsFan 01-20-2013 07:23 PM

Tavon Austin

WhitiE 01-20-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 9337224)
Geno

This

BossChief 01-20-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9336183)
Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

Titty Meat 01-21-2013 12:55 AM

Id like to see us sign Keary Williams and go after another position in the draft

RunKC 01-21-2013 03:27 AM

Damontre Moore.

Amazing pass rusher, outstanding run stopper. Solid coverage skills. If we had a QB already I'd want this guy at 1.

AussieChiefsFan 01-21-2013 04:18 AM

Jesse Williams

spanky 52 01-21-2013 05:44 AM

TE Ertz, Stanford.

htismaqe 01-21-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9338488)
Damontre Moore.

Amazing pass rusher, outstanding run stopper. Solid coverage skills. If we had a QB already I'd want this guy at 1.

This.

htismaqe 01-21-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9338279)
I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

While I agree with you in principle, I've changed my thinking in terms of how we acquire said "weapon". I think we should put on a full court press to get Percy Harvin myself.

OnTheWarpath15 01-21-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9338696)
While I agree with you in principle, I've changed my thinking in terms of how we acquire said "weapon". I think we should put on a full court press to get Percy Harvin myself.

I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

the Talking Can 01-21-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9335152)
Montee Ball

kind of like him too, but only in rounds later than he'll probably go...

off topic, but i think cyrus gray could benefit from Reid, and is a solid skill set for a WC offense...

Titty Meat 01-21-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9338829)
I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

I would love Bowe/Wallace but just dont see them spending thaf money on 2 WR's

OnTheWarpath15 01-21-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9338972)
I would love Bowe/Wallace but just dont see them spending thaf money on 2 WR's

Harvin isn't exactly going to come cheap either. Picks and cash.

ChiefsCountry 01-21-2013 12:17 PM

Eddie Lacy

Frosty 01-21-2013 12:31 PM

My homer pick this year for WR is Oregon State's Markus Wheaton. He is very fast (he beat Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas in the 100 meter during track season) with very good hands. He is also an outstanding teammate and hasn't ever had any off field problems. I think he compares favorably to a little bigger Desean Jackson.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/...ng-report.html

The Franchise 01-21-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9339079)
My homer pick this year for WR is Oregon State's Markus Wheaton. He is very fast (he beat Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas in the 100 meter during track season) with very good hands. He is also an outstanding teammate and hasn't ever had any off field problems. I think he compares favorably to a little bigger Desean Jackson.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/...ng-report.html

I'd love to have Wheaton on the Chiefs.

htismaqe 01-21-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9338829)
I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

Harvin is a different player than Wallace.

I don't think we need a WR myself.

We need one of the X factor guys that can line up anywhere. You know like Dexter McCluster, only not sucky.

OnTheWarpath15 01-21-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9339138)
Harvin is a different player than Wallace.

I don't think we need a WR myself.

We need one of the X factor guys that can line up anywhere. You know like Dexter McCluster, only not sucky.

LMAO

Titty Meat 01-21-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9339007)
Harvin isn't exactly going to come cheap either. Picks and cash.

Id rather spend the 2nd round pick on a wr to be honest.

HemiEd 01-21-2013 03:05 PM

Arthur Brown, but the need for ILB stronger. It would be nice if they could pick him up as Hali is not going to be around forever, nor is DJ.

But Pioli screwed off so many picks, the team is still behind and isn't in a position to draft depth.

htismaqe 01-21-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9339144)
Id rather spend the 2nd round pick on a wr to be honest.

Like I said, I don't think we need a WR (assuming we sign Bowe that is).

We need a matchup problem.

RustShack 01-21-2013 08:18 PM

Not saying I want this guy, but figured this is a good thread for it. Jeremy Reeves from Iowa State is pretty good, his only problem is height. That's probably the only reason he ended up at ISU because everyone thought he was too short. He was able to overcome it in the Big12, but the NFL would be a lot harder. Like a 42" vert though that's what's helped him overcome it. Likely undrafted. Last year him and Leonard Johnson were like our Carr and Flowers. One game one was the best CB, the next the other guy was.

Rambozo 01-21-2013 08:33 PM

Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

Molitoth 01-21-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9338279)
I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

Why does Geno "need a toy"?

He will come into this team with a bunch of other receivers that he needs to establish a chemistry with. Baldwin could end up being his fav receiver for all we know. Don't waste picks on "toys" unless you already know Geno needs one.

We need a CB and safety first.

the Talking Can 01-21-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9340222)
Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

while i agree he doesn't fill our need for a thumper, he played in a 3-4 at georgia...

Rambozo 01-21-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9340391)
while i agree he doesn't fill our need for a thumper, he played in a 3-4 at georgia...

Yes he did but that was college football. He could probably do alright in the 3-4 in the pros but, he could be a pro bowler in the cover 2 or 4-3 imo.

the Talking Can 01-21-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9340417)
Yes he did but that was college football. He could probably do alright in the 3-4 in the pros but, he could be a pro bowler in the cover 2 or 4-3 imo.

agreed

RustShack 01-21-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9340222)
Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

4-3 MLB is an ILB in the 3-4, and would be the one that Belcher played for us...


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