Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14322863)

He'll show up then.

Not be in football shape and end up hurt.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14322934)

Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14322934)

I agree. Jones is just doing what is in his best interest, positioning for the contract talks. You don't let a player like that get away, Veach will get it done.

Hill doesn't fit the mold of a guy you give a big money, long term deal to - he has obvious character issues and when he loses a step he won't be worth what the contract is paying. I know that on CP people think he's the fastest player in the NFL by 3 steps, but the reality is that when his speed declines he won't be worth elite money.

You pay Jones, and if Hill stays out of trouble and wants to sign a deal that is friendly to the team, and you can squeeze him in with other priorities, ok. Otherwise you continue stockpiling talent at the skill positions on offense and let someone else overpay him.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14322941)

Lol, I get being concerned, but you talk like it’s a guarantee that he will get hurt. Like I said beforee, Donald and Mack were both fine last year. Stop with this doom and gloom bullshit.

The guy is working his ass off in Miami right now. It’s obvious he’s been working out a ton and is in great shape if you follow him on social media.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 14322946)

Have you seen the way Tyreek fights for the ball?

I'd say that's a bit more important than speed considering MANY other NFL greats weren't as fast.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14322966)

I guess we're about due for another albatross contract

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14322962)

Working out and actually playing football are different. That's obvious.

Donald and Mack are legitimate HOF'ers. Chris Jones isn't on that level at this point.

It happens every year man. Guys that miss camp, come in and play are at a higher risk of injury.

Nothing is a guarantee, it's football. Maybe he comes out with rocket shoes and flies to the moon the first game. Hell if I know.

But I do know, missing the physicality of football then trying to jump back into it can lead to injury.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 14322940)

Chris Jones was on the field last year and the Defense was garbage.

The biggest difference maker is going to be the subtraction of Bob Sutton and the addition of a 4-3 scheme.

While I like Chris Jones, he doesn't have the leverage... see how he plays in the NFL under Spags... and if he will be worth it in the future.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14322974)

Defensive lineman with whipsers of taking plays off or going off script don't exactly have a great track record of playing well after getting paid a monster deal.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14322977)

Put yourself in Jones‘s shoes. Why does he have to prove what he will look like in this new system but Clark and Matheiu get paid top money without having played 1 down under Spags?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14322984)

JFC you’re going full reerun with this one.

The guy didn’t rack up 15.5 sacks taking plays off regularly. Saying he played off script is one thing, even though I think that’s a bit overblown.

Jones is clearly a guy that plays hard and is a far cry from the Albert Haynesworth’s of the NFL. He’s played relatively well from day 1. Good grief this is an awful take.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14322984)

JFC you’re going full reerun with this one.

The guy didn’t rack up 15.5 sacks taking plays off regularly. Saying he played off script is one thing, even though I think that’s a bit overblown.

Jones is clearly a guy that plays hard and is a far cry from the Albert Haynesworth’s of the NFL. He’s played relatively well from day 1. Good grief this is an awful take.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14322977)

Put yourself in Jones‘s shoes. Why does he have to prove what he will look like in this new system but Clark and Matheiu get paid top money without having played 1 down under Spags?