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Dayze 10-02-2012 07:17 PM

Can someone take a pic of the banner please? Sure as hell won't be on tv anywhere

ILChief 10-02-2012 07:24 PM

I'm surprised no major news outlet has picked this up. This seems like something Florio at profootballtalk would run with

Dayze 10-02-2012 07:26 PM

If Tebow were flying the plane, they'd pick it up

SomeRandomGirl 10-02-2012 07:35 PM

I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel

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By
Christopher Hansen
(AFC West Lead Writer) on October 2, 2012


The Kansas City Chiefs are a disappointing 1-3 and a big reason for their bad start has been the poor play of quarterback Matt Cassel. Turnovers have been particularly costly for the Chiefs and Cassel has 10 of the teamís 15 turnovers through the first four games.

Fans are growing impatient with Cassel, general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Romeo Crennel. One group of fans will protest the game by flying a banner over the stadium on Sunday. While Pioli and Crennel might be the problem, benching Cassel just makes things worse.

Cassel is not a good starting quarterback, but heís still the best quarterback available to the Chiefs.

Brady Quinn is basically Cassel three years from now. Ricky Stanzi? Please. There are a few quarterbacks available through free agency, but whether they are better than Cassel is questionable plus there is a steep learning curve at the position.

Benching Cassel only gives Pioli and Crennel a scapegoat for the teamís poor performance. Pioli is the one that brought Cassel in and stuck with him this long. Pioli even had opportunities to bring in a franchise quarterback through the draft and instead squandered those picks. He didnít even sign a quarterback that was worth starting over Cassel this offseason.

Crennelís specialty is defense and that side of the ball has also fallen apart. The team that played so hard for him when he was an interim coach looks lost and confused.

Itís clear that the Chiefs have issues and Cassel might not even be the biggest one. Itís not Casselís fault that the defense canít keep the game within two scores or that offensive coordinator Brian Daboll hasnít been able to run the ball enough.

Cassel has attempted 55 more passes in the first four games than he did 2010, the season he led the Chiefs to the playoffs. This is inexcusable given Kansas City's highly productive running game; the Chiefs are averaging 5.6 yards per carry this season, compared to 4.7 in 2010.

Cassel is throwing the ball more because the Chiefs have had to attempt to come back from down two touchdowns in every game this season, but Daboll needs to resist the urge to go away from the running game. The statistics are obviously skewed because Cassel has been piling up garbage-time stats in three of the four games. Outside of the interceptions, Cassel has actually been a more productive passer than he was in 2010.

If the defense could keep the game close, Daboll could lean on the running game and limit passing plays that would put Cassel in a position to make mistakes. If thing donít change quickly, itís going to be a very long season in Kansas City.

The margin of error is razor thin with a quarterback like Cassel, and that should be no surprise to anyone. The only people that seem surprised are Pioli and Crennel. Benching Cassel just makes the offense worse and allows those responsible for the poor play to blame someone other than themselves.

Fans should be supporting Cassel and letting his performance be the iceberg to Pioliís Titanic. Besides, itís not like the Chiefs have a better option.

NJChiefsFan 10-02-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8971689)
If Tebow were flying the plane, they'd pick it up

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Dylan 10-02-2012 07:49 PM

Contact: Associated Press - They should distribute the news on the national wire

http://www.ap.org/company/contact-us


Dave Skretta, AP Sports Writer - wire source of news and information on the KC Chiefs

https://twitter.com/APdaveskretta


That is great!!!

Raiderhader 10-02-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomGirl (Post 8971715)
I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel


What the author fails to realize is that Cassel ALREADY HAS BEEN Pioli's downfall. That is the number one reason, in a list of many, that we have turned on him.

AustinChief 10-02-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8971607)
I am going to disagree with you. If you stop flying the banner after getting some media attention than it looks like that is all we were after. You keep flying the banner until actual changes are made (providing funds keep coming in). Continuing the flights shows it is not just a moment of venting frustration but, that we are serious about this. Especially as a grass roots average fan donating to the cause week in and week out.

Pursue other avenues but, do not abandon the flights.

Well we will have to disagree here (a rare event!).. I just think the banner's return on investment will be so low that the money would be better spent on other avenues. If you keep changing things up, the media keeps reporting on it. "OH look, those banner guys are now doing a billboard!" "oh look those crazy billboard guys are having a {insert crazy event} to protest"

I just don't see as much coverage for "oh look, the banner is back again for the 4th week..."

WV 10-02-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeRandomGirl (Post 8971715)
I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel

This is probably accurate, but we're tired of seeing Cassel trotted out there every Sunday to suck ass. The other two QB's are at least up to sucking equally, furthering the evidence that this organization knows exacly squat about picking a QB. Exactly how much run does Pioli get for being a part of the team that LUCKILY drafted Brady.

I'm not sure of the perfect wording for the banner, but whatever it takes to remove Cassel is the biggest key. Hell even Daniel Snyder is taking less heat now that they have RGIII, Geno Smith may just make Peeholy tolerable.

WV 10-02-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8971774)
Well we will have to disagree here (a rare event!).. I just think the banner's return on investment will be so low that the money would be better spent on other avenues. If you keep changing things up, the media keeps reporting on it. "OH look, those banner guys are now doing a billboard!" "oh look those crazy billboard guys are having a {insert crazy event} to protest"

I just don't see as much coverage for "oh look, the banner is back again for the 4th week..."

Agreed...it will lose it's burst after 1 week, maybe 2. It's initial shock value will not be increased. If it can get time before and ideally after the game it's accomplished most of what it ever will.

teedubya 10-02-2012 08:00 PM

IMO, we turn the 2nd banner/billboard into a call-to-action of some sort.

We ask the fans to blackout some game. Maybe the last game of the year... something.

If we are just bitching... fine. But, I'd like to see some mass action when the fans do or don't do something in a coordinated fashion.

AustinChief 10-02-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 8971806)
IMO, we turn the 2nd banner/billboard into a call-to-action of some sort.

We ask the fans to blackout some game. Maybe the last game of the year... something.

If we are just bitching... fine. But, I'd like to see some mass action when the fans do or don't do something in a coordinated fashion.

Exactly! Each week of inaction should prompt further more extreme measures.

Escalation dominance works. (a little cold war theory for Raidehader to get behind! :D)

Titty Meat 10-02-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8971536)
OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.

How bout for the final hooray we buy a Chevy Tahoe driven by Kc Wolf to pick Pioli up during the pre-game intro of the last home game of the season and KC drives him back to Boston?

Titty Meat 10-02-2012 08:15 PM

Hey Teedub did you say Fox 4 was going to interview PR? I just got a tweet from a reporter saying that this is a great story and will be passed along to the producers.

pr_capone 10-02-2012 08:20 PM

updated OP with new total


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