Barkley sucks.

I think it is more of people wondering if we can get another stud at pick #1 and a different quality QB with just as much upside at pick #33. If there is no other quality QB then ya take him but if the falloff from him to a guy at #33 won't be that much then it must be evaluated.

Lets face it, it makes for great discussion and at this point there will be a ton of transition at arrowhead between now and then. Anything could happen.

Ya don't want this guy even in the 4th round. Sanchez part 2

That thought process makes me sick to my stomach.

It's the same argument we've seen for years.

Lets say we take the names out of the equation...lets provide a grade (on a scale of 1-100) on each player

QB A has a ranking of 91
QB B has a ranking of 89
QB C has a ranking of 86
QB D has a ranking of 82
QB E has a ranking of 79

There are defensive players that rank out as 95, 94, 93 and 2 90s.

I swear, some Chiefs fans would be totally fine passing on the 91 ranked QB becasue they think its ok to get the 82 or even the 79...as long as they canget that 95 defensive guy.

To me, even if my team looks to be in position to take the 86, Id be fully willing to trade that 95 defensive player AND that 86, and more to move up to take that 91.

Not in a million years would I pass on that 91 to take that 95...in HOPE of being able to take that 82 or 79.

Further proof that 99% of your posts are ****ing absurd.

I don't care who our backup is as long as it's not Matt ****ing Cassel.

He needs to be off this team as soon as this season is over.

Your head must be evaluated.

this.

I don't care if the guy would play for vet minimum...he needs to go somewhere else.

Everytime a player or coach says "I don't know what it is" that means they don't want to say something bad about Cassel because the guy is like an anchor for this team.

However, he flashes enough mobility and movement skills to be effective within the pocket. Barkley will routinely climb the pocket to avoid penetrating rushers, and his efficient footwork allows him to make accurate throws under duress

That's really all that matters TBH So, basically mobility isn't a question.

yep

Cmon Bone. Just cause he's from SC doesn't make him another Baywatch boy like Suckchez and Leinart.

ROFL

i wouldn't wanna bet on that.

Do you at least support Chocolate Penii???

Geno is da man.

I think I agree with this. I can't believe I'm saying that.

I think Geno is probably the way to go, but I don't feel like he's a sure thing either.

I wouldn't want Cassel on the team if he paid to play.

Not as much as your sister.

BANG!

Zilla' has been a damned True Fan since the Pioli hire and liked the Cassel trade, so just move along; NOTHING to see there, folks.
He's not a sprinter, but he can elude some mother****ers too.

You are a fan of a team that has NEVER owned their own home-grown franchise QB.

You're going to get a shot at one here this upcoming draft for the FIRST ****ING TIME IN YOUR SORRY ****ING LIFE.

And you want to ****ing GAMBLE THAT AWAY just so you can get a measly ****ing DEFENSIVE PLAYER in the package?

Unbe****inglievable.

QBs aren't about draft value, you ****ing moron. If you don't have one, and a guy is available, YOU TAKE THE ****ING QB AND GO **** YOUR SISTER SO YOU SHUT THE **** UP.

****

We can all give the excuses, but if the Chiefs choose anything but QB in the first then the team should be immediately sold.

I raise questions. That is it. I never said I didn't want anybody. I never said I wanted a certain player or position. I just raised questions. Why don't you learn to read and quit being so sensitive to a subject you obviously are very touchy about. If you would read what I have said, I stated they need a QB in a bad way. No doubt about it. But I also know this team sucks and needs talent in more areas than just at QB. Maybe if you spent some time watching some of the other losers on this team, other than the QB, you would realize this. QB is the most important position on the field, no question, my point is they need help all over the place and a good QB will only make this team average at best.

You are better than this.

People know im not a true fan. Stick to the discussion points, not baseless character attacks like this.

i can't believe people still show up spouting this crap

The fanbase needs to slow down and lay off their raytown meth pipes if they think smith is in the same universe as an RGIII. That's the bust potential. The fact that everyone assumes because there's a black quarterback in the draft that the next hybrid RGIII/John Elway is among us. Linebackers don't know how to cover griffen because he runs as fast as jamal charles and can throw pin point back shoulder fades like aaron rogers. Those same linebackers probably arn't going to have the same fear of a quarterback that runs slower than they do and tends to overthrow intermediate routes. He's raw and has to learn on the job. Equals bust potential.

This isn't the last draft the NFL will ever see, cockgobbler. Get your precious help next year. Or, you know, hire a GM worth two shits who can find talent in the middle rounds. We've got a ton of picks. We could conceivably fill ALL our holes in just this one draft. It's not likely, but it's possible.

If not, then there's next year. And the year after that. But don't ****ing gamble away the best QB in the draft just so you can get a ****ing slapdick DE that you can draft ANY ****ING TIME.

"I raise questions"

How about you raise a question that has merit? Like whether you should drink sulfuric acid or not

She's a Geno fan too :thumb:

This. Love his upside. Great guy for a #1 pick and a guy I like much better than cam or even Bradford. But yes, we can't pretend he isn't raw.

Say it with me:

The only people who made the comparisons to RGIII are reeruns who only look at his skin color. The national media and turds like BlackBob

I made the comparison at the beginning of the year based on buzz and momentum throughout the process (RGIII wasn't talked about as a top 5 guy until post-bowl season, so clearly I was wrong). But that's about it.

So enough with the "People talk like he's RGIII!" No, they don't.

Dude you are a member for a month now. See you what you don't know, you noob, is that you are just the latest person to come here saying this type of crap. When there are a lot of posters been saying we need a QB for years. We finally have a chance to get one now. You will not find the Aaron Rodgers falling type of thing with the new CBA. You get one at the top or you don't get one. All other positions can be filled any where else in the draft.

Just curious, can someone compare GSIII to a white QB? LMAO

Don't tell me you don't want this kid after reading this.

**** yeah! :drool:

SOLD!

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Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matt Barkley
Matt Cassel

You can pretty much shake them up in a bag and end up with the same thing.

Palmer has years of NFL experience so he's better now but overall they are almost the same guy.

Palmer and Sanchez have slightly better arms

All USC QBs do is steal money in the NFL.

A USC QB has never won a SB.

Sanchez won a couple playoff games. Rodney Peete won one. That's the limit of their magnificence.

If a Carrol-coached USC QB can't get it done, why the **** would I want one led by Lane ****ing Kiffin?!?!?!?

Pass.

Pass.

Pass.

Nien.

Nyet.

Great minds, sir.

Great minds...:thumb:

Palmer was on track to be in the HOF before his knee got ****ed.

Kiper: Barkley's stock has dropped dramatically
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/...d-dramatically

LOS ANGELES -- Matt Barkley was a potential top-five pick in this year's NFL draft.

Then, once he announced he was staying for his senior season, he was the consensus No. 1 overall pick for the 2013 draft.

Now, according to ESPN NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr., Barkley would be lucky to go in the top 20 come April. The USC Trojans senior's stock has dropped dramatically this season, with his 15 interceptions and the Trojans' four losses playing a big role in it.

And Barkley suffered a shoulder sprain in his throwing shoulder in USC's last game, a loss to UCLA, so his college career may well be over.

"He's hurt right now, so he's not doing anything to improve his stock," Kiper said Tuesday, in a phone interview. "But I think in terms of the season, it obviously didn't go as well as he would've hoped. He wasn't as good this year as he was last year."

Several things outside of Barkley's control contributed to that, according to Kiper, including the loss of left tackle Matt Kalil and dropped passes by his star receivers. But Barkley didn't have a single signature win this season, and that hurt him.

Even more, his physical limitations came to light. Barkley is listed at 6-foot-2 and 230 pounds and may measure in smaller on both counts at the NFL scouting combine in February.

"It's not about what Barkley did or didn't do, it's about what he is physically," Kiper said. "If you're gonna overcome a mediocre year, you've gotta be great physically. You've gotta have size, you've gotta have a rocket arm, you've gotta have mobility.

"Barkley doesn't have that. … He's not a guy who's gonna wow you over from that standpoint. Matt's a pocket guy who's 6-2 and doesn't have a great arm, so he's gotta be a great decision-maker, tremendously accurate and a great leader. He's gotta have all those things going for him in the NFL to overcome the lack of great physical qualifications."

Kiper pointed to former Washington quarterback Jake Locker as an example of what Barkley is not -- an elite athlete who overcame his statistical shortcomings to still go in the top 10. Locker went eighth to the Tennessee Titans in 2011.

Had Barkley come out last season, Kiper projected him as a possible top-five selection, a good bet to go to the Cleveland Browns and ahead of Ryan Tannehill.

"History, from an NFL perspective, would have been rewritten," Kiper said.

Now, Kiper projects him to go somewhere between the 20th and 40th picks, with a chance to go as high as 15th in a best-case scenario and as low as the middle of the second round in a worst-case situation.

The Senior Bowl, on Jan. 26, will help narrow that range down, Kiper said. But the longtime draft analyst also noted that Barkley's senior season won't have any impact on his NFL future -- only how it starts.

"Whatever he's gonna be, he's gonna be," Kiper said. "The year didn't have any impact on what type of NFL quarterback he's gonna be."

And Kiper left the door open for a sudden, unexpected change in Barkley's stock, pointing to all the pre-draft movement for quarterbacks in recent seasons, especially in 2005.

"Two weeks before that draft, people thought Aaron Rodgers was gonna be the No. 1 overall pick," Kiper said. "He went 24th, Alex Smith went No. 1. Now he's a great quarterback and Smith is an average one."

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Like I've been saying


@JarradPage44: Christian Ponder & Jay Cutler got those Barkley #'s right now
Ponder 22 completions for 159yrds
Cutler 23compketions for 188yrds
#CheckDown


Barkley is Cassel 101.

THIS!

THERE IS NO GREATER NFL COMPARISON THAN TO CA$$HOLE.

YES, DEAD SERIOUS. He's ****ing disaster.

DO NOT ****ING WANT...

@nfldraftscout: If Bray does declare, as I'm being told he will, would be my No. 3 QB right now behind Geno Smith & Tyler Wilson. Lot of potential, big arm


Where's Barkley at lol

Yeah, sticking to Geno #1 still

For sure.

Comparing cassel and barkley is like comparing smith to Akili Smith. very dumb.

Geno all day.

If we don't take Geno, **** this team...It doesn't make sense to draft a Matt Cassel 2.0 and have the guy wearing the same ****ing number 7 and from the same school and same intangibles. Barkley can't handle the pressure, he came back for another season so he could win the heisman and go to the BCS and he couldn't handle it.

All USC qb's are terrible.

I'm ready to go with this (+Florida) and call it a day...

You're right but I would take Tebow in a Mcdaniels system over Palmer, Sanchez, Barkley any day.

Tebow in a passing offense?

Everyone please note the n00b FAIL.

Thanks.

Mcdaniels drafted him and is the only coach that knew how to use him right.

On the bench? Pretty sure he's not the only coach to do that.

I would take none of them over a cactus enema...

LMAO

Sigh...it appears we have a TF Invasion today...

Sorry I dont have 12,000 posts clown.

It was a joke about Tebow and people take it so literal lmao.

You DO however have something red in your box now. Enjoy!

Thanks cause that really affects me right? A green or red color, you're a ****ing loser. I could care less about rep or you calling me a n00b. See me in person and try and say that shit and you'd get knocked the **** out, I never disrespected you, why you comin at me for? It was a joke..

I predict you will not be happy here. Threatening violence on a message board is always clutch.

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I bet you train UFC

LMAO

LMAO Eat a dick sock, n00b.

No no; he's a tough badassed RUGBY GOD!

And you are? A lowlife who calls people n00bs and thinks hes funny cause it makes him feel better on the internet about his miserable life.

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This picture = teh n00b. ROFL

Says the person who thinks he's a bad mofo for calling people out over the internets. LMAO

You're a moron. :)

It's so hilarious how all of you hide behind a computer and think you're funny, without this board you're nothing.

Because he called me out first over a ****ing joke. STFU, holy **** you're an annoying little ****.

"You must spread some reputation around before flaming this asshat"

:cuss: Damnit Scott!

LMAO.

Tell me, do you wear Affliction shirts? Train UFC in your basement? ROFL

I just want to know how scared I should be when you start sending threats my way.

:banghead::banghead:

I bet he has "Tap Out" tattooed on his little pee-pee.

You know what, I'm not even gonna say anything. I've been a fan for 15 years and I just came here to have a good time but of course cause I don't have 1200000 posts, I get disrespected, what am I supposed to do? Just sit there and take it, **** that. so you know what **** it. Enjoy you're miserable lives, I'm done with this site.

Are you hiding behind your phone?

Honestly you're the biggest bundle of sticks, do you not get that you're hiding behind you're computer. Would you say this in person, i highly doubt it.