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Discuss Thrower 07-16-2017 08:53 PM

Spoiler!

Chiefspants 07-16-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12959389)
They wouldn't be totally abandoned though, usually a small detachment to at least hold them. Castles were abandoned in the later middle ages due to dragons cannons rather than just because. Whole new fortifications had to be built to defend against dragons.


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GloucesterChief 07-16-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12959400)
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Well, in that case the only two regions that would could defeat dragons are the North and Dorne. The North by doing the classic Russian scorched Earth tactics and Dorne like they did to Aegon, hit and run with small units while scattering the army across the desert to die or be ambushed. No concentration of forces to let a dragon be a force multiplier.

Discuss Thrower 07-16-2017 09:06 PM

Great season premiere especially with the cold open.

The disgustingness of the first Sam scene had me cracking up. **** that shit, man.

mdchiefsfan 07-16-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12959388)
but that happened like over a year ago... this show coincides with our real time lives.... right???? :eek:

If we are to buy into the story being displayed in a linear fashion: Stannis died, Dany was taken away on Drogon's back, captured by the Dothraki horde, Vaes Dothrak was burned to the ground, Dany gained control of the Dothraki horde, the Sons of the Harpy revolted, Tyrion took control of Myreen, the slave masters were slaughtered, Euron gained control of the Iron Islands, Dany formed an alliance with the Greyjoys, sailed The Narrow Sea, and arrived at Dragon Stone.

I believe it is safe to say the time since Stannis' death has been substantial.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2017 09:24 PM

Can't wait to see Samwell turn that bunch of old cucks at the citadel into his bitches.

Also it's a testament to the quality of the show that I immediately knew that was Arya masquerading as Walder Frey and still enjoyed the shit out of the scene, and likewise with Euron Greyjoy storming off to find what will obviously be Dragonbinder.

Minor complaint: where's my badass shot of the dragons perching themselves atop Dragonstone? C'mon now.

Also **** Ed Sheeran.

The Franchise 07-16-2017 09:26 PM

Thank God for Arya's plot line.

mdchiefsfan 07-16-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12959447)
Can't wait to see Samwell turn that bunch of old cucks at the citadel into his bitches.

Also it's a testament to the quality of the show that I immediately knew that was Arya masquerading as Walder Frey and still enjoyed the shit out of the scene, and likewise with Euron Greyjoy storming off to find what will obviously be Dragonbinder.

Minor complaint: where's my badass shot of the dragons perching themselves atop Dragonstone? C'mon now.

Also **** Ed Sheeran.

Interesting. I didn't think about the horn as the gift. I thought it would be the decimation of Dany's fleet, but that is an interesting perspective.

mdchiefsfan 07-16-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12959453)
Thank God for Arya's plot line.

Arya has the worst timing and direction I have ever seen. Headed home? Joins with the Brotherhood; kidnapped by The Hound, headed North, sees family die. Her family retakes Winterfell, and she is at The Twins, heads South.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2017 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12959466)
Interesting. I didn't think about the horn as the gift. I thought it would be the decimation of Dany's fleet, but that is an interesting perspective.

It could be that, but it doesn't make much sense plotwise. Dany's army has to reach the mainland for the story to progress, right?

GloucesterChief 07-16-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12959473)
It could be that, but it doesn't make much sense plotwise. Dany's army has to reach the mainland for the story to progress, right?

Tactically, yes that would be the best options since they know where Dany is going to go. They just wait for the fleet to pull up sails and bunch together and then attack and send most of Dany's army into the sea. Hell, a couple fire ships would do a ton of damage alone.

They didn't mention to Euron so who knows?

mdchiefsfan 07-16-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12959473)
It could be that, but it doesn't make much sense plotwise. Dany's army has to reach the mainland for the story to progress, right?

Yes, no one is saying he will be successful in his goal. I do agree that it will have to be something substantial to make it appear to not be a fool's errand to the viewers, but it could be something as simple as giving her the heads of Ellaria Sand and the Sand Snakes (who are of no worth in this show, thus ending a terrible attempt of making Dorne relevant). She now has one less enemy, and no obstructions to her South should she attempt to flank Dany With Euron's fleet.

If it is Dragonbinder, we will begin to hear rumors of it from Sam, or Euron, next episode.

crazycoffey 07-16-2017 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12959355)
ROFL ... yer ****ing reeruned. That shit was awesome. You are probably one who jerksit to truly boring Saul Goodman shit. Even that show is good, but has boring moments. GOT is just fantastic.

Literally; never read RUdy's posts, he's dogshit

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12959369)
Stanis Bartheon had taken over Dragonstone before heading north to eventually burn his daughter at the stake and die after losing in battle to Ramsey Bolton at Winterfell.

Guess nobody thought to fortify it...and because the plot dictates it to be abandoned.

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12959377)
Keep in mind this happened in history literally all the time. Castles were elaborately constructed, and then altogether abandoned, sometimes in days. This was especially true in areas that lacked natural resources.

IF anyone was there watching a thousand ships sail in, they left. Otherwise it was left abandoned. Either way, don't over think the plot.

mdchiefsfan 07-16-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12959485)
Tactically, yes that would be the best options since they know where Dany is going to go. They just wait for the fleet to pull up sails and bunch together and then attack and send most of Dany's army into the sea. Hell, a couple fire ships would do a ton of damage alone.

They didn't mention to Euron so who knows?

Army on the land preventing escape, and the fleet blocking the exit from the Harbor. It would be tough to escape. Danny possesses the only severe advantage against any military unit (that we have seen to this point): the sky.

crazycoffey 07-16-2017 10:21 PM

It was a good to great season opener. Less fluff between scenes, I loved it


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