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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 11409770)

I rented this last time i was at the range. 3 inch group at 25yds. ****ing beautiful machine. What did you get it for if u dont mind me asking?

It was on sale for $699, stainless version too. After the tax and dros I paid $789 and change. I also had to get a new FSC that cost $25.

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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 11409770)

I rented this last time i was at the range. 3 inch group at 25yds. ****ing beautiful machine. What did you get it for if u dont mind me asking?

Not to shabby, considering you never held it before. You need your own though, get the trigger and bushing done and you should be able to cut that group in half. Well maybe down to 2 inches.

699 for a quality 1911 is an outstanding price.

Finally got my Taurus 24\7 compact last week. Put about 150 rounds through it, and I'm very happy. A couple of times the slide wouldn't close all the way, but it's in the break in period so I'm not concerned. No jams at all.

It has a Double Action pull for the first round then resets to single...which is a bit of a problem for me getting used to the trigger pull. My first shot is off the mark but subsequent shots are pretty good. Also, I thought the sites were off since it was consistently shooting low and to the left, but a buddy of mine mentioned that I might be rolling the trigger to the left. Also, it's a shorter barrel than I'm used to, and it turns out I was holding it kinda wrong.

By the end of shooting, I was getting much better groupings at 25 feet. The kick is not too bad for a short barrel in a .45.

In short, I have to keep shooting it to get used to it, but it's a great gun, especially for the price. It comes with a 10 round and 12 round extended mag, and a mag speed loader, which is quite the thumb saver. Never used one before, but it's great.

Awesome gun. I can't wait to get out and shoot it again!

Kansas legalizes constitutional carry, effective July 1st!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e17232419.html

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Brownback signs bill that allows permit-free concealed carry of guns in Kansas
BY BRYAN LOWRYTHE KANSAS CITY STAR

TOPEKA - Kansans soon can carry concealed weapons without permits or training under a bill signed by Gov. Sam Brownback on Thursday.

The new law, which kicks in July 1, makes Kansas the sixth state to allow “constitutional carry.” It will allow Kansans 21 and older to carry concealed firearms regardless of whether they have obtained a permit.

Training still will be required for anyone who wants to carry a concealed gun in the 36 states that accept Kansas permits.

Brownback touted the importance of training, explaining that his youngest son took a hunter safety course this past week.

“It was an excellent course. He got a lot out of it. I got a lot out of it. And I want to urge people to take advantage of that,” said Brownback, who was flanked by Republican lawmakers and representatives from the National Rifle Association and Kansas State Rifle Association.

Asked why he did not think training should be required if it is valuable, Brownback said carrying a gun is a constitutional right.

“We’re saying that if you want to do that in this state, then you don’t have to get the permission slip from the government,” Brownback said. “It is a constitutional right, and we’re removing a barrier to that right.”

Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau, a Wichita Democrat, said she has concerns about safety, noting that law enforcement officials raised concerns about the lack of training.

“That’s a major responsibility to carry a gun, whether it’s concealed or not. And it’s scary,” Faust-Goudeau said. “I predict from the legislation that — and it’s going to go quick, it’s going to be July 1 — we’re going to see some accidents, possibly deaths.”

Rep. Travis Couture-Lovelady, a Republican from north-central Kansas, said the state had no significant problems with public safety since adopting concealed carry in 2006. He predicted the latest expansion would have little impact.

“We haven’t had any of the Wild West shootouts. We haven’t had any of the blood running in the streets that folks feared,” Couture-Lovelady said, adding that he did not attribute that to the training requirement.

“Training is an ongoing, personal responsibility. It’s not something the government can mandate,” he said. “… It’s not a ‘one size fits all’ when you talk about the lifestyle of carrying a gun.”

About 87,000 people hold concealed-carry permits in Kansas, according to the attorney general’s office. More than 17,000 of them are in Sedgwick County.

One of the most vocal critics of the legislation, Bill Warren, holds a concealed-carry permit. He has expressed concern about the safety impact on his Wichita movie theaters if people who have not gone through training bring in guns.

He probably will prohibit guns in his theaters.

“My No. 1 priority is the safety of our customers, and after we talk to our security we will make a decision before it’s enacted,” Warren, who donated and hosted events for Brownback’s gubernatorial campaign, said Thursday. “It makes things for the general population less safe.”

Patricia Stoneking, president of the Kansas State Rifle Association, praised the governor as a strong supporter of the Second Amendment.

Stoneking said the signing of the bill was the culmination of a 10-year plan by the group. She said the inclusion of the training requirement in the 2006 concealed-carry bill was “political horse trading” and said it was a compromise necessary to pass the legislation at that time.

Looking ahead, she said she wants to see one more major change: lowering the age to carry a concealed weapon to 18.

“Eighteen-year-olds are allowed to open carry, and they go to war and put their lives on the line to protect this country,” Stoneking said. “I believe we can lower the age to 18 at some point in the future. I think after everybody sees that there are not going to be any of the dire predictions coming true, and they relax a little bit, then we can talk about that.”

I am sure that this may have already been covered, however, I am not going to go back through almost 500 pages to find out, but I am thinking about getting into reloading. Most likely 2.23 to try to keep my ARs fed, but may try a few other calibers as well. Can anyone direct me to some good reloading info on the web, or have any knowledge that they want to impart? Equipment reccomendations, etc...

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 11416964)

Kansas legalizes constitutional carry, effective July 1st!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e17232419.html

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 11416964)

Kansas legalizes constitutional carry, effective July 1st!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e17232419.html

Well looks like I wasted a couple hundred bucks when I got my permit. At least I can still carry across the state line if I ever venture over to Missouri.

Midwayusa.com has Daniel Defense Lite rails on sale, and they also put Midwest SS-II Dark Earth carbine rails on sale.

If you need a buffer tube complete assembly, Palmetto has them on sale for $29, which is criminally cheap.

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 11418964)

Well looks like I wasted a couple hundred bucks when I got my permit. At least I can still carry across the state line if I ever venture over to Missouri.

Ha ha, yep. I just went through the process last Fall. I could have just waited a few months. Oh well, I like the fact that I can cc in other states legally. For that reason, I plan to maintain my CCL.

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 11416964)

Kansas legalizes constitutional carry, effective July 1st!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/gover...e17232419.html

Seems like a bad idea. The one thing I learned from my CCW class was that shooting someone is a legal pain in the ass. People need to forced to learn CCW laws.

Anyone know much about Brown Bear or Tula ammo? Lady at Walmart said if you like your gun, you don't buy Tula.

I just picked up a VZ2008 and need to get some ammo.

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I just priced buying ten 20 round boxes of Wolf 7.62X39 (.24/rd plus $15 shipping) at $62 at Ammunition depot. But I can buy the same amount of Tulammo at Walmart locally for $3 less after taxes. Any opinions?

Never had a problem with either, just clean your gun if you don't have a chrome-lined barrel.

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 11420428)

It's not like an AR, you can shoot anything out of them and they will work fine. We burned 120 rounds of Tulammo Friday out of my AK they worked great. I've also got wolf, Red Army and pulled the trigger on another 1000 rounds Barnaul last night. That will put me at 5000 rounds which is where I like to be on the low end of things.