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Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 02:02 PM

PFF Broncos/Chiefs
 
Donald Stephenson had a 2.2 with a 1.6 in PB and RB. Two penalties brought his grade down but other than that...GREAT JOB. Did not allow a QB pressure.

Tyson Jackson had a god awful game. He's back to being the 31st rated DE in the NFL. He doesn't even have a positive grade in run defense anymore. LMAO. Why did this team feel the need to give him 33 pass rush snaps yesterday?

Jalil Brown was complete toast, giving up 5 completions for 112 yards to Decker and Thomas.

Sounds like the coaching staff is tired of Baldwin's suck. He was only on the field for 15 passing plays.

Justin Houston rushed 36 times but only had 1 hurry and 2 sacks.

Allen Bailey didn't play a single snap.

saphojunkie 11-26-2012 02:10 PM

yeah houston sucks. Only 2 sacks? what a joke.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-26-2012 02:10 PM

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

Rac: Baldwin open on one play and if Brady went to him it would have been a td #chiefs

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9153938)
yeah houston sucks. Only 2 sacks? what a joke.

Outside of those 2 plays he was pretty ineffective.

saphojunkie 11-26-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9153942)
Outside of those 2 plays he was pretty ineffective.

Justin Houston has 14.5 sacks in the last 16 games. He is not the problem and is the only feather in Pioli's cap.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9153947)
Justin Houston has 14.5 sacks in the last 16 games. He is not the problem and is the only feather in Pioli's cap.

And yet he too can have a bad game.

KCrockaholic 11-26-2012 02:22 PM

If only 2 sacks means a bad game then Pioli was right, our expectations are way too high.

MagicHef 11-26-2012 02:27 PM

Von and Woodyard each had their worst games of the season.

Saccopoo 11-26-2012 02:28 PM

I liked the Stephenson pick. Thought he had a lot of tools coming out of OU. A little raw, but huge and athletic with a nice kick step.

He played quite well against two superb pass rushers in a pass rushing system.

It was really the only thing that I took out of the game as a positive other than we lost which moved us one step closer to Geno.

Buckweath 11-26-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9153970)
I liked the Stephenson pick. Thought he had a lot of tools coming out of OU. A little raw, but huge and athletic with a nice kick step.

He played quite well against two superb pass rushers in a pass rushing system.

It was really the only thing that I took out of the game as a positive other than we lost which moved us one step closer to Geno.

The defense was good, the pass rush and Jalil Brown weren't good but for the rest, the D played well I thought.

Dontari Poe had another solid game. He makes some mistakes but for the most part he's doing good.

YourMult 11-26-2012 02:49 PM

Houston is such a broad. If he's going to earn his paycheck, he's going to have to do a lot better than the meager 32 sacks-per-season pace he was on yesterday.

AdumbGuy 11-26-2012 03:00 PM

That's no good. the way you put it, I almost wanna give baldwin a 100M extension.

The Franchise 11-26-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9153970)
I liked the Stephenson pick. Thought he had a lot of tools coming out of OU. A little raw, but huge and athletic with a nice kick step.

He played quite well against two superb pass rushers in a pass rushing system.

It was really the only thing that I took out of the game as a positive other than we lost which moved us one step closer to Geno.

Well....say goodbye to Albert. I know you'll love that.

Chiefspants 11-26-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9153969)
Von and Woodyard each had their worst games of the season.

ROFL The Mannings beat the mighty Chiefs by only EIGHT points.

the Talking Can 11-26-2012 03:09 PM

stephenson was a surprise...that should have been a slaughter

Hootie 11-26-2012 03:10 PM

Well shit maybe we should try Albert at guard afterall

BlackHelicopters 11-26-2012 03:14 PM

Baldwin was on the field for 15 snaps?

the Talking Can 11-26-2012 03:15 PM

so we'll let bowe and albert walk...which is a mistake

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9154087)
Baldwin was on the field for 15 snaps?

15 pass snaps.

Chiefspants 11-26-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154097)
15 pass snaps.

How many pass snaps did we have overall?

QuikSsurfer 11-26-2012 03:24 PM

Wait, Houston had a bad game with 1 hurry, 2 sacks, and 4 tackles?

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9154111)
How many pass snaps did we have overall?

30.

Bowe played all 30. Moeaki played 28.

Baldwin was subbed out for assholes like Newsome and Copper.

DeezNutz 11-26-2012 03:25 PM

Just watching, it seemed that DJ had a very good game, but I was more of a passive observer.

Chiefspants 11-26-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154115)
30.

Bowe played all 30. Moeaki played 28.

Baldwin was subbed out for assholes like Newsome and Copper.

Copper has always been somewhat of a secret weapon of ours.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9154122)
Copper has always been somewhat of a secret weapon of ours.

No he hasn't. He's a scrub who belongs on ST.

Baldwin is a huge bust and it's becoming clearer with every game he flits around Arrowhead like a ghost.

ThaVirus 11-26-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9154118)
Just watching, it seemed that DJ had a very good game, but I was more of a passive observer.

I saw him whiff on two open-field tackled. Plus Moreno went off on us.

I'd say DJ had a below average game.

DeezNutz 11-26-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9154126)
I saw him whiff on two open-field tackled. Plus Moreno went off on us.

I'd say DJ had a below average game.

You could be right. I simply don't watch every single snap every single week with this team. Though I DVRed the game, it seems pretty pointless to watch it back to try to deconstruct a turd.

QuikSsurfer 11-26-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154115)
30.

Bowe played all 30. Moeaki played 28.

Baldwin was subbed out for assholes like Newsome and Copper.

Because they can catch? **** Baldwin.
I'd rather see Copper catch slants all ****ing day rather than see Baldwin attempt to one-hand grab a catchable ball only to bobble it for a incompletion.

Rain Man 11-26-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9154127)
You could be right. I simply don't watch every single snap every single week with this team. Though I DVRed the game, it seems pretty pointless to watch it back to try to deconstruct a turd.

If you watch it backwards, you can see the Chiefs make a great comeback.

Rain Man 11-26-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154124)
No he hasn't. He's a scrub who belongs on ST.

Baldwin is a huge bust and it's becoming clearer with every game he flits around Arrowhead like a ghost.


It's funny that Tyson Jackson still gets most of the abuse, but in the big picture he at least gets onto the field. Jon Baldwin is a football wraith. You never see him, you only see his shadow when he crosses in front of a light.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9154145)
It's funny that Tyson Jackson still gets most of the abuse, but in the big picture he at least gets onto the field. Jon Baldwin is a football wraith. You never see him, you only see his shadow when he crosses in front of a light.

Jon Baldwin didn't sign a contract for $57 million.

the Talking Can 11-26-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9154145)
It's funny that Tyson Jackson still gets most of the abuse, but in the big picture he at least gets onto the field. Jon Baldwin is a football wraith. You never see him, you only see his shadow when he crosses in front of a light.

just close your eyes and pretend that Houston was the first round pick and Baldwin the 3rd

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9154153)
just close your eyes and pretend that Houston was the first round pick and Baldwin the 3rd

That doesn't work with the 09 draft. LMAO

Rain Man 11-26-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154150)
Jon Baldwin didn't sign a contract for $57 million.

Point taken, though I guess others find that more important than I do. I just see a first-round WR pick who dematerializes when you wave your arms swiftly.

Rain Man 11-26-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9154153)
just close your eyes and pretend that Houston was the first round pick and Baldwin the 3rd


That actually kind of works.

Buckweath 11-26-2012 03:45 PM

Will you guys let Baldwin play with Geno Smith (I hope we draft him) before you judge him??

Rain Man 11-26-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9154161)
Will you guys let Baldwin play with Geno Smith (I hope we draft him) before you judge him??

Don't let Geno wear a crucifix or anything. We don't want Baldwin to disappear into the ether.

In fairness, I know that receivers are typically slow starters in the league, so I'm not giving up on Jonny. I just think that perhaps in Year 2 it's time for him to start, you know, making catches.

DC.chief 11-26-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourMom (Post 9154016)
Houston is such a broad. If he's going to earn his paycheck, he's going to have to do a lot better than the meager 32 sacks-per-season pace he was on yesterday.

LMAO .. yeah he better step it up. I expect no less than a 50 sack performance this year.

DeezNutz 11-26-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9154166)
In fairness, I know that receivers are typically slow starters in the league, so I'm not giving up on Jonny. I just think that perhaps in Year 2 it's time for him to start, you know, making catches.

You see? This, this right here? This is one of the unrealistically high expectations that I was talking about. /Pioli

DeezNutz 11-26-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9154153)
just close your eyes and pretend that Houston was the first round pick and Baldwin the 3rd

For Pioli to seem like even a mild success, Chiefs fans must give themselves a mental stranger.

Simply Red 11-26-2012 04:01 PM

I'm not trying to be a cock - but what does PFF stand for? I've never known, honest.

QuikSsurfer 11-26-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9154195)
I'm not trying to be a cock - but what does PFF stand for? I've never known, honest.

Pro Football Focus

mcaj22 11-26-2012 04:24 PM

where are the idiots on here that said yesterday "Jalil Brown is not the problem, he played well"


yea suck it you ****ing idiots

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9154239)
where are the idiots on here that said yesterday "Jalil Brown is not the problem, he played well"


yea suck it you ****ing idiots

He has been targeted 15 times this year and has given up 9 catches and 20 yards a catch.

He is an absolute burn victim so far.

mcaj22 11-26-2012 04:35 PM

i cannot believe we went from Brandon Carr to Jalil Brown and have nothing to show for it.

downgrade in talent with no return thanks to the Pioli Way. And thats how you build the worst team in league in Year 4 of your Ego GM's crap plan

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 04:38 PM

We went from Carr to Routt to Brown.

So basically from gold, to bronze, to shit.

Sorter 11-26-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154298)
We went from Carr to Routt to Brown.

So basically from gold, to bronze, to shit.

Sounds like Pioli to me.

BigMeatballDave 11-26-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9154301)
Smells like Pioli to me.

fixed

Sorter 11-26-2012 04:44 PM

LMAO
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9154312)
fixed


ThaVirus 11-26-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154249)
He has been targeted 15 times this year and has given up 9 catches and 20 yards a catch.

He is an absolute burn victim so far.

What does PFF say about Flowers' season?

Hammock Parties 11-26-2012 04:49 PM

Same as always. In the top corners.

#1 Bronco's Fan 11-27-2012 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9153969)
Von and Woodyard each had their worst games of the season.

How do you figure? Quinn completed 13 passes. The defense played fine. KC did not care if they won or lost they just did not want to get blown out. That is why Quinn dumped the ball off every time and that is why they went for FGs instead of TDs.

chuxtrux 11-27-2012 02:45 PM

How did the rest of the d-line do besides Jackson? Also, how was Jackson somewhat decent last year against the run and so awful this year? Was it a fluke year or were the parts around him somewhat better which made him more effective

Chiefspants 11-27-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9154124)
No he hasn't. He's a scrub who belongs on ST.

Baldwin is a huge bust and it's becoming clearer with every game he flits around Arrowhead like a ghost.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...fhi2o1_400.gif

RunKC 11-27-2012 03:06 PM

C'mon Clay Baldwin doesn't have a QB to throw him the ball. And when our QB throws the ball, guess where it's going to? Bowe. Every. Single. Goddamn. Time.
And when for some reason it doesn't, it's to McCluster**** because our OC has the biggest woody for him.

Baldwin has made plays. His potential is there. Put a QB like Geno on this team and he's a contributor.

Oh and I saw Houston make a few really good plays against the run on Sunday. He owned Orlando Franklin. They tried the sweep and Houston blew that shit up.

mcaj22 11-27-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9157070)
C'mon Clay Baldwin doesn't have a QB to throw him the ball. And when our QB throws the ball, guess where it's going to? Bowe. Every. Single. Goddamn. Time.
And when for some reason it doesn't, it's to McCluster**** because our OC has the biggest woody for him.

Baldwin has made plays. His potential is there. Put a QB like Geno on this team and he's a contributor.

Oh and I saw Houston make a few really good plays against the run on Sunday. He owned Orlando Franklin. They tried the sweep and Houston blew that shit up.

this is 100 percent wrong.


this entire theory to blame the QB is a farce. the dude ****ing sucks. hes a bust and hes not a team player. Hes a workout warrior with a poor attitude

MagicHef 11-27-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobet selur (Post 9155952)
How do you figure? Quinn completed 13 passes. The defense played fine. KC did not care if they won or lost they just did not want to get blown out. That is why Quinn dumped the ball off every time and that is why they went for FGs instead of TDs.

That's the point. Von and Woodyard had their worst games and our defense allowed 9 points.

I think the Broncos were of the opinion that they needed to do little more than get off the plane to win this game. It seems they were right.

Deberg_1990 11-27-2012 03:15 PM

So Stephenson makes Albert expendable?


Signed, Pioli

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9154056)
ROFL The Mannings beat the mighty Chiefs by only EIGHT points.

:LOL: We played in a 3-3-5 set the whole game. LMAO

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157081)
That's the point. Von and Woodyard had their worst games and our defense allowed 9 points.

I think the Broncos were of the opinion that they needed to do little more than get off the plane to win this game. It seems they were right.

The Broncos treated it like a preseason game.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157081)
That's the point. Von and Woodyard had their worst games and our defense allowed 9 points.

I think the Broncos were of the opinion that they needed to do little more than get off the plane to win this game. It seems they were right.

LMAO Herpty Derp Denver didn't even try. This is Knowmo level of stupidity. They only won because Quinn is ****ing awful. Chiefs can run on anyone and Vondum got bitchslapped by backups.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:18 PM

JFC another one. Pathetic.

MagicHef 11-27-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9157100)
LMAO Herpty Derp Denver didn't even try. This is Knowmo level of stupidity. They only won because Quinn is ****ing awful. Chiefs can run on anyone and Vondum got bitchslapped by backups.

Congrats on those awesome rushing yards. Next time try to work on points.

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157104)
Congrats on those awesome rushing yards. Next time try to work on points.

No, really. It's hard to run the ball against a Nickle Defense.

Sorter 11-27-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9157092)
So Stephenson makes Albert expendable?


Signed, Pioli

As soon as that pick was made everyone saw the writing on the wall.

****, Albert probably started looking at properties in Chicago, where he'll get a fat contract he deserves protecting a top 15 QB on a top 10 team.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157104)
Congrats on those awesome rushing yards. Next time try to work on points.

Everyone knows here what's wrong with this team. Draft Geno number 1 and we own this division for a decade.

You guys have gone full homertard since Mannings afternoon stem cell snacks have found him the fountain of youth.

Sorter 11-27-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9157095)
:LOL: We played in a 3-3-5 set the whole game. LMAO

Why would your defense do that when we can't throw the ****ing ball?


JFC, Del Rio is an idiot.

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9157113)
Why would your defense do that when we can't throw the ****ing ball?


JFC, Del Rio is an idiot.

Practice.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9157106)
No, really. It's hard to run the ball against a Nickle Defense.

It's Del Rio. He really might be that stupid. I remember the Pats run game making you guys their bitch as well. Guess they weren't trying then either LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9157115)
Practice.

Homer

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9157116)
It's Del Rio. He really might be that stupid. I remember the Pats run game making you guys their bitch as well. Guess they weren't trying then either LMAO


You're right, Chiefs=Pats.

Sorter 11-27-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9157115)
Practice.

http://s7.tinypic.com/2ntfrid.jpg

Sorter 11-27-2012 03:24 PM

LMAOLMAOLMAO
Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9157116)
It's Del Rio. He really might be that stupid. I remember the Pats run game making you guys their bitch as well. Guess they weren't trying then either LMAO


MagicHef 11-27-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9157113)
Why would your defense do that when we can't throw the ****ing ball?


JFC, Del Rio is an idiot.

There is a conspiracy theory that they were using you guys as practice for NE. As in, their hurry up not allowing us to get out of the nickel against running plays.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:24 PM

JFC It's Invasion of the Knowmo Snatchers up in here.

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9157120)

We gotta get those reps in. Might not have a first round bye this year.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-27-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157123)
There is a conspiracy theory that they were using you guys as practice for NE. As in, their hurry up not allowing us to get out of the nickel against running plays.

LMAO You seriously believe that? It's the NFL not JV High School football.

Sorter 11-27-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9157123)
There is a conspiracy theory that they were using you guys as practice for NE. As in, their hurry up not allowing us to get out of the nickel against running plays.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li...99mho1_250.gif

listopencil 11-27-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9157129)
LMAO You seriously believe that? It's the NFL not JV High School football.

True. Sometimes the JV scores touchdowns.

MagicHef 11-27-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9157129)
LMAO You seriously believe that? It's the NFL not JV High School football.

I didn't say I believed it, I said there was a theory.


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