You tell me how Daboll is a shit OC?

Remember how successful Saunders was when he had talent to work and how bad he was when he didnt?

Weak schedule and JC.

You wont convince me otherwise.

Dog shit OC? Hes been an OC for three years. First two were with the dog shit Browns who will be bad no matter whos there. He did positive things with a few players there. He had the #11 offense in the NFL the second half of the season with the DOLPHINS. He made Bush look great, something the Saints couldn't do. He made Matt Moore look good. Sounds like hes doing alright for a third year OC in a losing situation.

How about you name me a few OC's with no experience who took over on god awful teams and took them to the top.

Daboll is a young and upcoming OC no matter how much you hate it.

He has a history of coordinating shitty offenses.

Simple.

Anything else is homer spin trying to make him look good.

The Browns had the #8 offense two years before Daboll was there.

You wanna hear something awesome about Brian Daboll?

He coached BRETT FAVRE to that shitty, awful season with the Jets. A year later Favre was in the NFC Championship game with Minnesota.

Sounds like he's gonna get the best out of Matt Cassel for sure.

He wasn't the OC, the Vikings also had a far better team. Plus I really doubt Favre really takes much to coaching at his age now. It was more than likely Favre teaching Daboll a few things about QB's.

Minnesota also had better talent in place.

A lot can change in the NFL in a few years, reerun.

You said no one ever does well in Cleveland.

Clearly, you were wrong.

LOL I just noticed Daboll was just the WR coach in NY.

Clay is just reaching here because he hates Pioli, which I understand.

However, bashing Daboll at OC makes no since now because there isnt a large enough sample size to judge him.

When was the last time Cleveland won a playoff game, sustained success for more than a year, or even had a team half as stacked as the Chiefs are now?

He was the quarterbacks coach for two years. All the quarterbacks were shit.

Clearly that says he's awesome.

His three years as an OC, and his two years as a QB coach, indicate he's shit.

Saying anything else is just homer hope.

That's irrelevant.

We're talking about Brian Daboll, who has a shitty history as an OC.

He failed in Cleveland.

Not everyone fails in Cleveland. The previous OC had at least one good year.

Not Daboll. He maintained the proud tradition of Cleveland suck.

Clearly someone we should hire.

I misread Wiki.

This mean very little.

I'll ask again... Why did Saunders have success when he had talent to work with and sucked when he didnt?

He hasnt done shit since 05.