Carl does deserve some credit, but in 20 years he didn't deliver a championship or a 1st round QB to that end. He could have been GM for another 20 years and that would still be true.

that's what i thought...


i love the idea of pioli reading this

Yes, actually he was. He was a really ****ing good GM, but he should have been fired after the '98 season.

Pioli isn't worthy of drying the sweat from '93 Peterson's nut sack.

The article touched base on many of the issues I've brought up before about Carl. Carl had some good and some bad as we all know. Carl WAS actually a darn good GM for quite a long time but he stayed to long in the end and things came crashing down. The franchise was NEVER in as bad of shape as it is now under Carl. We at least still had the Chiefs atmosphere!

One thing we can't take away from him is the fact he made Arrowhead and the Chiefs in general a lot of fun for the players, the fan base and community. The atmosphere around the Chiefs were one of togetherness. With the players being out in the forefront with charity events, Carl on the radio, players having radio shows, the charcters (fans) the Chiefs allowed to blossom inside Arrowhead, the Red Coats, the openess to the media, etc.

Now none of that exsist (outside of the Red Coats)! The players are brought out as gladitors and not people anymore. It is hard to have favorite players as the people don't know the players as a human being. Everything is gloom and doom with the franchise on lock down. There is absolutely nothing fun or exciting about this franchise anymore. That all starts and ends with Scott Pioli. He has driven this franchise so far into the ground it isn't even funny. Like him or not, Carl at least made the Chiefs the talk of the town and region!

No GM can be known as "really ****ing good" without drafting a first round quarterback in 20 years.

Sorry.

Calling Peterson's 2-14 year a disaster is pretty unfair, too, since there was a full-fledged youth movement in effect, unlike the bullshit of '12.

Carl Peterson was fired 2008 for orchestrating this train wreck. What QB did he get for ya? Ya. Nobody x 1000

Yeah, well this is wrong.

Peterson built Arrowhead, drafted a few HOFers, and turned the Chiefs into one of the best franchises of the 90s; he was really ****ing good at his job, but he needed to leave after '98.

KooHairIck and Herm were actually building something; Pioli turned everything to shit with his reverse Midas touch.

Midass Touch.

We can slam Carl for the QB failure when it comes to drafting (he did give us Montana/Green) but he did a LOT of good though but just stayed to long.

You're the smartest guy in the forum.

Glad you're here.

I won't argue with this. Pioli did what he said he would do, partially anyway -- "they may not be the best players..." ya, the early rounders haven't been real impressive.

Need Sizzle, Fire Pioli-Save...

Personally, I think there are two Carl's.

The Carl that got here, and really did want to win championships.

Then the super rich, fat n happy Carl that was content with a full Arrowhead and going 9-7.

Often times, success is the biggest obstacle in attaining more success. I think that's what happened there. Carl didn't want to take the big chances LATER that would have possibly put us over the hump.