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htismaqe 12-17-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9219157)
History was made to be broken.


AMIRIGHT

I am on board.

Now lets take Te'o first and trade a 2nd for Cousins!

O.city 12-17-2012 05:55 PM

I'm not sure why exactly it hasn't happened, it's one of those things that don't make sense. I mean obviously the guy was smart enough or good enough to win one once, so he's a proven winner.


I don't understand it.

The Franchise 12-17-2012 05:59 PM

I'd love for the Chiefs to go after an up and coming coordinator.....but I'll fully understand if Clark goes with someone who has a proven track record.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9219162)
I'm not sure why exactly it hasn't happened, it's one of those things that don't make sense. I mean obviously the guy was smart enough or good enough to win one once, so he's a proven winner.


I don't understand it.

I think a lot of them become convinced that they were far more responsible for winning than they actually were. They become more decisive which leads to amplifying mistakes and the like.

It's why dick vermeil thought he could win without a defense and parcels thought he could win with Tony Romo.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9219165)
I'd love for the Chiefs to go after an up and coming coordinator.....but I'll fully understand if Clark goes with someone who has a proven track record.

Same here.

The ONLY thing I have against the idea of hiring Cowher is that I fear a lot of people, including Clark, want to rebuild Cowher's time in KANSAS CITY more than rebuilding his time in Pittsburgh.

O.city 12-17-2012 06:01 PM

Well I could make a case that Cowher wouldn't think that, whether he comes here or not, the way things worked out for him in Pitt.

He didn't win one for so long, then finally did what he should have and drafted Ben, then won one.

O.city 12-17-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9219171)
Same here.

The ONLY thing I have against the idea of hiring Cowher is that I fear a lot of people, including Clark, want to rebuild Cowher's time in KANSAS CITY more than rebuilding his time in Pittsburgh.

What's the difference? Besides Big Ben of course.

O.city 12-17-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9219171)
Same here.

The ONLY thing I have against the idea of hiring Cowher is that I fear a lot of people, including Clark, want to rebuild Cowher's time in KANSAS CITY more than rebuilding his time in Pittsburgh.

And also, what does it matter what EVERYONE else wants to rebuild, if Cowher is the one doing he building?

ChiefMojo 12-17-2012 06:11 PM

Heck I would be happy to have Cowher right now! At least you know you will have a physical football team all-around.

NJChiefsFan 12-17-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9219166)
I think a lot of them become convinced that they were far more responsible for winning than they actually were. They become more decisive which leads to amplifying mistakes and the like.

It's why dick vermeil thought he could win without a defense and parcels thought he could win with Tony Romo.

Which is why winning SB's with different teams is more about circumstances and the mindset of the actual coach. There isn't something in the universe physically stopping it from happening. Unlike QB's, where actual rules and players are stopping average QB's from winning SB's. So for those reasons, to me, its not a double standard to want a SB coach but also a QBOTF.

For the record, I am not really screaming for Cowher. I wouldn't freak if we get him. To me, I just want the best possible hire. Demanding certain things is just forcing us into making a decision based off things that aren't "guy with best ability". I don't care where he came from or what he was doing prior to this, just hire the right guy.

Manila-Chief 12-17-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9219115)
50 years of NFL history says that Bill Cowher will not win a SB in KC.

No HC has ever won a SB on 2 different teams.

I don't want Cower either ... but, this may be the perfect time for it to happen, I mean Cower would be the first to do it. But, I don't think he is that good of a coach.

But, if we are going that route, I'd rather have Gruden. He would be much better developing a young QB ... or he will be better if we go after Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins.

I like the idea of going with a fresh college coach ... Chip Kelly/Brian Kelly/etc. but the tract record of first time college coaches is not very high at all.

alanm 12-17-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9219115)
50 years of NFL history says that Bill Cowher will not win a SB in KC.

No HC has ever won a SB on 2 different teams.

It doesn't mean it can't happen.

DeezNutz 12-17-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9219176)
What's the difference? Besides Big Ben of course.

If it weren't for the ocean, this beach would suck.

alanm 12-17-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9219160)
I am on board.

Now lets take Te'o first and trade a 2nd for Cousins!

Not even in jest. :cuss:

O.city 12-17-2012 08:06 PM

I mean other than a franchise QB coming in late, his time in Pitt is pretty similar to his time in KC.


Good,but not good enough. Got to the SB though.


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