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Red Beans 12-17-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9218917)
Didn't make any difference the year Carl was let go. This team has given up. Announcing Pioli is leaving won't make them suddenly care.

If he's as big of an asshole as has been reported, it just might make them care.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9218917)
Didn't make any difference the year Carl was let go. This team has given up. Announcing Pioli is leaving won't make them suddenly care.

And what if it does?

You're being selfish, that's all there is to it.

dirk digler 12-17-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9218920)
Ah, I see. Until Fisher went to the Rams and instantly made them better I was against Cowher.

The Rams have shit for talent and have been playing very well compared to last season.

Cowher instantly makes the Chiefs better. How much better? I dunno.

The difference between those 2 IMO is that Fisher still has motivation:
1. He was fired
2. He hasn't won a SB yet and I don't think he ever will
3. He didn't sit out for 5 years and lose his wife

IMHO if the goal is to draft a young QB #1 then I would rather have a young coach to grow with that QB not an old coach looking for a pay day and who will be here just 3-4 years.

Groves 12-17-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by soopamanluva (Post 9218831)
If pioli is gone, why not just let him go now?

For the same reason we don't immediately cut all the QBs and aging guards playing center on the roster.

ChiefsCountry 12-17-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9218948)
IMHO if the goal is to draft a young QB #1 then I would rather have a young coach to grow with that QB not an old coach looking for a pay day and who will be here just 3-4 years.

Cowher build it up and then retire in 4 years would be perfect since our QB will be in his prime. We aren't winning the Super Bowl until Barkley/Geno gets to be 27 or 28 anyways.

007 12-17-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9218931)
And what if it does?

You're being selfish, that's all there is to it.

whatever man. I just don't see any point sitting on it if it is already done.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9218962)
whatever man. I just don't see any point sitting on it if it is already done.

Because the season isn't over.

Give us ONE good reason to do it now that actually helps the team and prepares them for next year.

dirk digler 12-17-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9218961)
Cowher build it up and then retire in 4 years would be perfect since our QB will be in his prime. We aren't winning the Super Bowl until Barkley/Geno gets to be 27 or 28 anyways.

IMO the only reason you bring in a guy like Cowher is to win now. Everything I have heard about Cowher is that he doesn't want a rebuilding situation.

So the question becomes is the Chiefs talent really as good as we thought prior to the season and the coaching was the main problem or is it 2-12 good ?

007 12-17-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9218967)
Because the season isn't over.

Give us ONE good reason to do it now that actually helps the team and prepares them for next year.

Worked out just fine at the end of 2008.

ChiefsCountry 12-17-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9218972)
IMO the only reason you bring in a guy like Cowher is to win now. Everything I have heard about Cowher is that he doesn't want a rebuilding situation.

So the question becomes is the Chiefs talent really as good as we thought prior to the season and the coaching was the main problem or is it 2-12 good ?

Not much different between 7-9 team the year before. Better coaching, new QB, and few changes and this team will be back in it pretty quick.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9218976)
Worked out just fine at the end of 2008.

So you're essentially flipping a coin and hoping that it works out, just so you can feel better now instead of 2 weeks from now?

Seriously, that's silly.

RunKC 12-17-2012 04:50 PM

If Clark announces that Pioli is canned right now, the players know that RAC is going to follow suit.

The players love RAC and will want to win a game for him since they know he's going to be let go. They'll play extra hard and possibly win just like they did against the Panthers and Packers.

Good move by Clark not to risk this shit. We NEED the #1 pick.

007 12-17-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9218981)
So you're essentially flipping a coin and hoping that it works out, just so you can feel better now instead of 2 weeks from now?

Seriously, that's silly.

Love how you are making this all about me. I'm done with this subject.

htismaqe 12-17-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9218993)
Love how you are making this all about me. I'm done with this subject.

I'm making it about you because you happen to be the person on the other end of the conversation.

Of course, we've been talking about this for weeks and I'm making a generalization and always have been.

Sorry you feel singled out but you happened to be the person responding.

Titty Meat 12-17-2012 04:54 PM

So Clark is trying to get Cowher? Interesting. I'd imagine you'll have to pay him 7-8 mil a year.


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