Thor: Ragnarok
 

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HE'S A FRIEND FROM WORK!!!

I chuckled

Oh shit. They're doing it.

I didn't think I'd be as excited to see this as I was to see GotG2. I was wrong, for no other reason than that. And even that being said the rest of it looks amazing.

Oh my balls that looks amazing.

Yes, yes it does. Cate Blanchett looks perfect as Hela.

Yeah, that looks pretty slick... sorely needed after the turd that was Thor 2

They are calling for you in DC. It appears you owe on a wager you lost to GoChiefs.

Hoping that Hulk and Thor escape and go there separate ways. Set the scene for a solo Planet Hulk rather than shoe-horning it into a Thor film.

Yes, yes she does.

They're trying to go a little too cheeky with it, IMO. It's probably not a bad thing but every franchise you have doesn't need to be GOTG.

The original Thor was a great movie and didn't rely on a bunch of sight gags and one-liners. The second Thor was shit and no amount of clever banter would've saved it. They leaned too hard on a tone change when they really didn't have to, IMO.

Or maybe that's just how they edited the trailer, who knows? I just hope they haven't pushed it too far towards the lighter side after the success of GOTG.

I'll say it again.

When I was a child, I sat around and dreamed about how amazing these stories would be on the big screen,......and they have brought the shit to life better than I could have ever hoped OR dreamed...

Bravo, Marvel.....Bravo.

I read somewhere that it's actually going to be pretty rough on a lot of the big names..

A not so happy ending, if you will.

That trailer didn't seem cheeky to me. Yeah, Thor's reaction to seeing Hulk certainly was, but look at the rest of the trailer....

- Mjolnir gets destroyed
- The entire realm of Asgard goes up in flames, with a shit ton of her warriors
- Heimdall is laying waste to fools and looking none to pleased
- Hela looks to be enjoying slaying an entire wing of Valkyrie-like warriors
- Thor is a prisoner, forced to fight against his will
- Thor is hanging upside down chained up in Hell, for ****'s sake

They needed a little levity in there somewhere, lol. I DO hope they don't try to make it too much GotG like you said. I like the Immigrant Song there, but the 70's porn lettering was a bit much....

I love that song but combined with the lettering that's what gave me the initial feel. That and the "I know what you're thinkin'..." wall breaking intro. That's just a very odd kick off to a dark movie.

If folks have heard otherwise, I'll certainly defer. Sountrack and font can make a mere promo look completely different (we've all seen those jokey commercials on Youtube that take shit like the Wicker Man and make it look like a comedy).

I'm excited for the movie; I think Hemsworth's Thor is wildly underrated in the MCU. The guy kills it.

Marvel has done a damn good job with casting. Hemsworth IS Thor. RDJ IS Tony Stark.

So it's gonna be Thor in the tourney instead of Beta Ray Bill.

I'm guessing this means Thor is about to get his shit pushed in by a big, veined out, green peen.

GotG2 is out in less than a month. Matching up the marketing look is a good move. Also have to think that this movie is more...celestial than previous Thor/Marvel movies. They're continuing to ramp up scale and ideas started in GotG (or even TtDW), then continued in Dr. Strange. Leading the style of the Avengers toward the style of the Guardians, meshing them together as they both head toward Infinity War.

I think the same goes for Chris Evans. That guy embodies Captain America to a T. Marvel has always killed their casting choices.

I enjoy watching Scarlet Johannson in black spandex...so that worked nicely.

Loki is great though as much as I like Hiddleston, I'm a little Hiddleston'd out at the moment.

Ruffalo...meh. Honestly, I really enjoy Cumberbatch but I thought he was a shit Dr. Strange; accent came and went and I just couldn't stay in the movie with him. Maybe he'll come around but the first performance was uneven at best. (I love Ejiofor as Mordo in that movie, though I've enjoyed every role I've seen him in since Serenity so I'm biased).

I guess Vision just doesn't matter enough to think his casting sucked but I think it kinda does. I like Jeremy Renner in general yet don't really give a shit about Hawkeye so that strikes me as it might be a miss. Love Lee Pace; thought he was disappointing as Ronan. There have been a lot of misfires on ancillary roles in Iron Man, but they're secondary to watching RDJ chew scenery so I guess that's to be expected. I want to see Natalie Portman die in just about every movie she's in but only because of the Star Wars Prequels so I might not be being fair.

Yeah, by and large they do good work on casting.

Hemsworth is maybe half as good as Evans

You're right, Evans does an unbelievable job of owning that character... he has the same earnest quality that Chris Reeves had

Agreed on some of the misses on ancillary characters. I can't believe they've casted such big names in these smaller roles for these MCU films like del Torro, Hopkins, Elba, Redford, etc.

I think they've been mostly successful with the major characters though. The ones that seemed surprising at the time of casting to me was Ruffalo and Cumberbatch, maybe because I had a hard time picturing them as a superheros. I do like Bettany's work as Vision though.

Oh, and Cate Blanchett looking goth is hot as ****

Torro and Goldblums characters are heavyweights in terms of their magnitude in that universe, IIRC. Hopefully we get to see that play out.

I'll be honest: I didn't really like the trailer.

Looks great

Explain

It was probably hard for him to see it on his mini tv. :D:clap:ROFL:drool:

Haha, nice

Lol I'll go ahead and quote my boy Frazod for both of you:

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ROFL

I'm just being critical, I suppose, but I thought a movie about the Norse Armageddon where basically everyone is supposed to die would be a bit darker and more serious.

In this trailer we've got colors and jokes and that *record scratch* "I bet you're wondering how I got here" that's at the start of every straight-to-DVD movie they play on BET late nights.

We've got Heimdall with dreads looking like Bishop from Days of Future Past's doppelgänger.

We've got the Planet Hulk storyline fused with a major Thor arc.

Just wasn't feeling it. I'm still gonna watch it doe!

Well, I already know one character is going to die. It was perhaps the greatest moment in the Simonson run on Thor but without the character being in multiple movies it kinda robs the emotional impact.

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I'm glad to see there is good response to Blanchet. I'm a big Blanchet fan but I didn't know how this would play. Looks like she's killing it.

I personally think Cate is hot as hell(a). (See what I did there? :)) but I can understand how she wouldn't do it for some. Factor in her age (47) and she is amazing.

Those Thor videos on YouTube with him interacting with regular people are comical and popular. It seems they may be having a slight influence on direction of the movie character.

Hela looks like she was ripped right from the pages of a comic book. And Cate is smokin. The goth look suits her.

For the uninitiated:

https://youtu.be/n3TOw6r7ghc

Pretty funny. Worth a minute of your time.

I personally think their casting has been aces across the board. Again, as always, with minor exceptions.

The decision to turn Paul Rudd into Ant-Man was always curious to me. He's never not Paul Rudd. And nobody buys Rudd as a lovable jackass, he's just lovable. He doesn't sell it as effortlessly as RDJ or Pratt do, so the film had to keep writing characters calling him a jackass. Because even based on the things he does on screen, Scott Lang seems like a sweet, nice guy. They should have just run with that, or cast someone else. I liked Ant-Man but I thought that was a misfire.

Let me go on record and say Paul Bettany as Vision was excellent casting. His cold, mechanical demeanor is perfect for the role, and I think he imbues the role with exactly the right amount of humanity. I love that casting.

Probably the worst casting have been two of the love choices: Natalie Portman and Rachel MacAdams, but I don't even think it's their fault, is it? Their characters are horrifically written, only with the exception of the first Thor, which I've argued is a top tier Marvel film.

Since I'm just rambling at this point: I really love Benecio Del Toro (sp?) but he was ridiculously terrible as the Collector. Either that or they just didn't write the role well. And Mads Mikkelson is possibly the most wasted actor in the Marvel cinematic universe. This guy could have been the best Marvel villain of them all, and he was just shabbily written.

Marvel does an excellent job in their casting. For every complaint I have in the casting department, I have like 100 more praises. It's a great thing they've got going.

Well I'll be. This DOES seem like a nice cozy place to hide out from obligations. . .

To be fair, I really was not sold on Evans after the first Captain America. In fact, I thought they may have made a mistake passing up on John Krasinski (Evans just felt so wooden, but a lot of that was due to the writing).

Boy has Evans made me eat my words. The last two Captain America movies are my favorite Marvel movies to date.

I'm hopeful Cumberbatch will be able to settle into his role in a similar fashion.

I'm still a little confused why Hela is so overpowered.

Theory out there that she is in possession of the final Infinity Stone, the Soul Stone, which makes her so powerful

I watched a video about it. I'll put it in spoilers for those that don't want to know.



KCLees theory makes a lot of sense too

So I may or may not be getting a divorce. I showed my wife the trailer and she commented that Hulk is one of the worst characters in these movies. I almost packed my shit at that very moment.

I'd rather they just tell planet hulk as sub plot throughout the final stages of the big storyline playing out in the next CPL/few films and set the stage for a WWH standalone after IW wraps up.

Damn straight ! There's only so much stupidity a guy can put up with.

I really hope we just get these guys to wreck shit for a few minutes against each other.

Is that too much to hope for? Just wrecking shit?

My wife thinks the '66 corvette and the early 90's Vipers are stupid looking.

I'm really not sure why she's still around.

This. She's powerful, but not "let's go nuke Asgard and break Mjolnir" powerful. She has to have the final Infinity Stone. On top of that, I think she is in cahoots with Thanos. I think it might be possible HE gave her the stone and sic'd her on the Asgardians. It would be a nice, tidy way to tie this into the upcoming Infinity Wars.....

That's got to be it, in my opinion. Otherwise she'd never be able to just level Asgard like that.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Shouldn't the soul stone have something to do with souls though?

What exactly does the soul stone do in the comics?

From what we've seen her do, I'd guess she has the power stone.

None of the stones have any identifiable powers, other than the time stone in Dr. Strage. They're all just vague power stones.

She's the "leader" of Hel, so souls going to Hel...soul stone.

The Power Stone is with the Nova Corp from GoTG Vol. 1.

Location of all the stones below in the MCU, only the Soul Stone is "missing".

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Nova Corp currently has the power stone in the MCU. From Guardians of the Galaxy. All the stones are currently accounted for in the MCU, except the Soul Stone. Which is why it's being rumored. The soul stone devours souls along with other varying "Cosmic abilities", and gives the wearer a sort of vampiric hunger for souls. The idea is that because Hela is already a God, the powers are even more amplified.

They all definitely have unique powers.

The time stone, as you mentioned, obviously deals with time.

Loki used the mind stone to control people's minds. He also used the space stone to open a portal over NYC in The Avengers.

The power stone was used to wipe out planets with its power.

The reality Stone sent Natalie Portman to alternate dimensions.

I know the power stone is accounted for; I'm saying that based on what we've seen from her in these short clips, it would appear that she has the power stone rather than the soul stone. I don't actually think she has it unless Thanos stole it off-screen and gave it to her.

Of course, we know little about Hela's character in the MCU so perhaps what's shown is actually just her own abilities, maybe a bit amplified as Fish said.

I think all the stones have that kind of raw destructive potential within them, they just focus their power through whatever conduit operates them. That's the power of billions upon billions of souls blasting through Asgard and crushing Mjolnir. That's why when they are all mounted on an Infinity Gauntlet the wearer automatically becomes the most powerful entity in the universe....

I can buy that. Vision uses the mind stone in his forehead to blast energy so maybe they've all got some destructive capabilities.

I guess we'll find out..

This all really makes me wonder if Thanos will ever get his hands on all six stones at once. It seems he'd be unstoppable then so I doubt it. I can't wait to see how this all shakes out.

Justice League and this around the same time. Exciting...I enjoyed the other Thor's and this looks like the best

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There's lots of reasons to keep women around.

Their opinions have never been one of them.

To truly tell Thanos' story, and do the Infinity storyline
justice, the stones will have to be brought together.

And, Yes, he will be unstoppable, which would be allow the writers to shine the light on one of his most defining
characteristics.
The only one who has ever been ultimately responsible for his downfall.....Is himself...
He has never been defeated at the height of his power by force

I don't wanna get too deep about a comic villain, but many people, readers IRL and characters in the stories as well have speculated that it's the pain of rejection throughout his life, from a young child all the way to falling in love with death that drives his hunger for power, but deep down, he never really wanted it.

Warlock explains it to him a CPL times and he contemplates in the closing pages of The Infinity Gauntlet.

Edit: I was thrilled to read that Kevin feige had said that Infinity War part 1 was basically fences movie.
It will pretty much be his movie, and he will be the main character in it.

I have always said that a hero is only as good as the villain he's facing and this guy is the villain of all villains.

Ehhhh.
Energy projections, can be produced by any stone that is true.
But the powers that they possess are extremely different.
The reason that omnipotence can be obtained by having them all is that they work together and expand each's potential.

Possessing one stone can give you power over the aspects that it controls in a specific way, but when combined with other gems the ways that those powers can be utilized expands exponentially.
For example:

The tesseract, or space gem, can allow the wielder to travel anywhere in the universe.
It was used to open a portal for the chitauri to come to Earth.

The gem in Loki's staff was the mind gym.
It allowed Loki to control the minds of Hawkeye and the scientist.

Combined with the time gem from Dr Strange.

And the soul gem that has not been revealed,

The user could be aware of every living entity anywhere in the universe know his every thought and everything he had ever done and anything he will ever do.

Basically omnipresent, and omniscient.

That's just one combo capability.

But the combo capabilities are pretty much, well, infinite.

Maybe. I liked Planet Hulk better than WWH though, and there is no way they can do it justice as a subplot in a single movie. Across multiple movies, maybe. I would still have doubts, but we'll see.

I've been hearing a lot about Heimdall and the soul stone. Maybe he has it and it enables him to see everyone and everything in the 9 realms.

Loki even asked Heimdall if Odin feared him with all his power . Who would Odin have to fear but someone wielding an infinity stone?

And Just to reiterate, a user that could handle it, could pull off what you described with the power stone alone.
It's the muscle in the bunch.

Someone with the guantlet would not need to do anything like that.

With but a split second thought, asgard will have never existed, if the wielder wishes it.

Thanos killed off half of the life in the enire Universe with but a thought to please mistress death

I liked this read on it...

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/11/...hela-heimdall/

Super pumped for this.

Also, Hulk looks much bigger (and thicker) in this.

Apparently there were comments that Hulk would be much more intelligent and "basically a God" in Ragnarok.

I'm not a comic book reader and I admit I'm getting comic book movied out at this point so take this with a grain of salt, but this looks shitty. Even though I'm not the biggest comic book movie fan right now, I like the GotG trailer and the Spiderman trailer was cool (even though I felt they revealed far too much) but this trailer looks shitty to me, just like the other two Thor movies. Just too childish and cheesy for me.
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The Thor movies are about Asgardian shit man. They're supposed to be the cheesiest of the cheesy.

I'm glad they're this way because there's only so many "save earth and/or people on earth" storylines you can do.

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Yeah, it's like a bridge between Flash Gordon and The Fifth Element.

Cheesy, sumptuous, silly and badass.

This is exactly what I thought.

80's FG and not the old school stuff.

This wasn't supposed to look like GOTG - it was meant to resemble Flash Gordon...

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Hearing rumors that Goldbloom isn't toppled like in the comix but he "expels them after being dissatisfied."

This coming from a spanish language site...

You tell that Teddy that he's about to get thunder-buddied by an 8'4" green hog-leg...

That is going to be a legitimate challenge to this duology, and honestly it could end up being Infinite Wars' biggest problem (aside from having like 50 superheroes in it).

Thanos was completely unbeatable in IG. He was so unbeatable, the conflict on the comic book page could play out as boring on the big screen.

He's a god. And as a god, IG had to invent a ridiculous deux ex machina for him to be defeated. That will absolutely not fly on screen.

X-Men: Apocalypse ran into this same problem: mortals can't beat a god. In IG, even gods couldn't beat Thanos.

So what brings him down?

Almost certainly, nothing sensible will bring him down. He can't lose, so the writers will have to invent something stupid in order for him to lose.

This is the biggest thing anyone has tried to pull off.

It may suck, very hard.

Even if it does it will net BILLIONS and the faith of MCU nation will say "bhut part II will be better because MARVEL!"

Much like SW's episode 1.

He's only a god with the gauntlet.

Without it he's just a super powerful Inhuman...

Love dis thread. Dis where my NERDS be at!